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#1
What can be considered an intermediate guitarist? I'm going to post what I think one is after a few replies. I just don't want the replies to be based on what I said.
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Intermediate guitarists suck less than beginners but more than advanced.
#5
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#6
Depends on what you call a skill in terns of playing.
Insane technical skill but no knowledge of music literacy would make someone a good guitarist, but approaching uselessness in a group setting. So there's guitarmanship (and apparently a new word in the world maybe) and musicianship and they aren't mutually exclusive.
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#7
Someone who knows more than just the intro riff for Smoke on the Water
#8
someone who can play a selection of open chords, some bar chords, some simple riffs, and a few pentatonic licks
#9
It most likely means you've held a guitar for 6 months.

Many, many beginners feel they're 'intermediate'
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#10
Sounds good, sounds good.
Maybe high expectations, but I am aiming for this before I can call myself intermediate

Intermediate - played for 1250 hours of gradually more difficult practice or 1-2 years
moderate amount of theory learnt
'capable' of playing most songs, learning songs at this stage is very quick due to the speed generated through technical elements already.
Be able to play several scales in different patterns on the fretboard, rhythms, create short licks using them
Adequate with usage in songs with various techniques; hammer ons, pull offs, bends etc
Know about 40 chords and able to change between them at 50bpm? xD I hate chords like Anakin hates sand
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You've been playing long enough that an audience would feel comfortable throwing things at you.
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Sounds good, sounds good.
Maybe high expectations, but I am aiming for this before I can call myself intermediate

Intermediate - played for 1250 hours of gradually more difficult practice or 1-2 years
moderate amount of theory learnt
'capable' of playing most songs, learning songs at this stage is very quick due to the speed generated through technical elements already.
Be able to play several scales in different patterns on the fretboard, rhythms, create short licks using them
Adequate with usage in songs with various techniques; hammer ons, pull offs, bends etc
Know about 40 chords and able to change between them at 50bpm? xD I hate chords like Anakin hates sand
This pretty firmly pegs you as a beginner tbh.

EVERYTHING builds off chords.
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moderate amount of theory learnt
Be able to play several scales in different patterns on the fretboard, rhythms, create short licks using them
Know about 40 chords and able to change between them at 50bpm?
Man, I don't know or know how to do any of this and I'm way past intermediate. Probably better if everyone did learn that stuff, but in my case, it's not necessarily necessary.

Imo intermediate just means you know a good amount of certain techniques but have yet to master them. Someone who knows what to play but is still in the learning stage of how to do them the way that's best for him/her.
Ex: Knowing how to play a chord but still figuring out the finger positions that work best for them.
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slapsymcdougal And... chords are based off single notes
While I recognise you're being sarcastic, chords are made from single notes, but they're not based on single notes.

See also: a pile of stones can be built into a drystone wall, but a pile of stones is not a drystone wall.
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slapsymcdougal lol jk to the previous reply. But seriously, though, those things seem pretty decent, maybe 50-60 chords probably. IMO having 40 is enough to cover a short enough range(if this makes sense) in an octave to not be that much different to playing a larger range of chords to the ears of a non-musical listener.
#18
To reiterate, I couldn't even tell you a single chord without looking it up because I'm self taught and never bothered to learn.
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slapsymcdougal lol jk to the previous reply. But seriously, though, those things seem pretty decent, maybe 50-60 chords probably. IMO having 40 is enough to cover a short enough range(if this makes sense) in an octave to not be that much different to playing a larger range of chords to the ears of a non-musical listener.
The thing is, what do you mean by 'knowing chords'?

Are you counting F major, F# major, G major etc as individual chords, even though - played as a barre - they're the same shape just moved up the neck? Because - let's be honest - that's padding numbers.
#20
slapsymcdougal Depends, I'm not exactly sure the theory behind unique barre chord shapes yet, I only know the F major. Power barre chords definitely not counted. Gtg 6 10am here :/
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If your guitar costs more than $1000 you paid too much.


Says THE BEGINNER!!!!!!
#25
We are all beginners in the Holy Vais eyes.

It's all about relative context, really. If you can perform what you write to a high standard, you're 'good' in practical terms. This can be anything though and there's always relative levels of skill in bands by genre.

This is why actual virtuosos try to learn absolutely everything so they can play absolutely everything but few styles of music call for actual virtuosos.
And obviously this is compounded by the problem of potentially not knowing what you want to do with your skills.

But if we're going to try to actually define it, It'd still be dependent on the genre you're playing. I'd consider myself an 'intermediate' technical death metal guitarist, because I can write and play songs and solos like this to a decent degree:

@3:06


@3:42


However, I could never play an Iron Maiden song or an Ed Sheeran song, simply because, even if they're significantly less challenging to learn and play, they're just not realms of skill that I'm prepared for (or care about learning but that's more of a compounding effect of just not playing them).
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#30
Pretty much everyone who posts in the Pit. Most of us have decent chops and understanding of particular styles (metal, blues, jazz, etc) but we're not THAT amazing yet. Many of us haven't picked up a guitar in weeks, months because we're not Pros, and because EDM is the cool thing to do now (imo)
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I'm talking potatoes here.
That's not a nice way to talk about the people who paid to see you play.
#32
I think an intermediate guitarist is one that sounds good when playing. The chord changes are fluid, the tempo is precise, the single notes dont sound out of tune because of pressing to hard or accidently bending them, the bends sound in tune, and the whole thing just feels "fluid" or whatever, not forced, like you see with many begginers. But there is not flashy sweeps, very advanced chords or weird theory involved yet. Thats what i consider an intermediate guitarist in any genre.
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If they are gonna throw things then I don't care. They can stay home next time.
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#35
If you can play comfortably without struggling whether alone or in a group setting and have the ability to move fairly effortlessly around the fretboard whether it be chords or notes/scales/patterns etc. If you have good timing and picking technique and can pick up songs quickly when being shown by another or from tabs and can successfully play in a band setting I'd say you are intermediate.

Theory helps but I know a good deal of intermediate and or better than intermediate players (including myself) that are self taught and know very little if any theory.
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Idk where else to put it, I was going to in technique
Nah, man it was bad a joke that I made, its the semi-right place in here, plus you wouldn't have gotten any answers if you posted this in techniques.
#38
I think if you can play Smoke on the Water with one finger only on the low E string, then you can at least call yourself intermediate, if not virtuosic.
#39
I made 100$ for a gig, so I'm the lowest standard of a PRO. Intermediate would be anyone with less skills then me!


On a serious note, I think people range so much with skill its hard to judge. I have a buddy who can noodle some solos out and sounds great, but can't play a song front to back to save his life. So while I think some of his skills are intermediate, I still consider him a noob.
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That's not a nice way to talk about the people who paid to see you play.


If I was you, I think I'd murder Mel Gibson. Braveheart and all. Oh, I'm Longshanks first cousin, 22 times removed, btw. You Scottish bastard. Of course I have a Scotsman in the family tree as near as my Great Grandfather. So, I'm at least 1/8 scottish. Can you believe that bullshit? I mean I'm related to THE FUCKING LEGENDARY KING OF ENGLAND LONGSHANKS...but my more near ancestor is a Scottish butcher who, by legend, ground up his thumb by accident and sold it as fucking hamburger.

Life is a bitter motherfucker.


The interesting thing is there are over 20 million people in the world as closely related to Longshanks as myself. That dude must've fucked ANYTHING THAT MOVED. As for the nomer "Longshanks"...well, all I have to do is look down and I see why he got that.
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