Poll: How much obligation do you have to learn/speak the language of the country you live in?
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View poll results: How much obligation do you have to learn/speak the language of the country you live in?
Zero obligation
4 9%
Zero obligation, but you should at least try
10 21%
Some obligation
6 13%
Strong obligation
18 38%
Mandatory (no translators/translations at taxpayer expense will be provided for government docs/processes)
9 19%
Voters: 47.
#1
How much obligation, if any, are you under to speak the language of the country you live in


I say it's mandatory
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#2
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#3
Pinches maricones can't tell me como hablar, ese.
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#4
whys it gotta be mandatory

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#7
there's plenty of incentive to learn a local language but it's not like it's easy

it's hard for our brains to wrap around an entire new language, that's why there's careers built out of it.
#8
the only language that matters is music
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#9
Zero obligation, but don't complain when you're miserable and have no friends or job  
#10
Life will be hard enough on them if they don't that I don't see a need for a government to make them.
#13
in the future socialist utopia where the machines do all the labor for us, everyone will have the time & resources to study languages.
#15
Strong obligation to learn the language and speak the language to native speakers. Some obligation to speak the language to non-native speakers in a public, professional setting. No obligation to speak the language in an informal setting.
#16
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Zero obligation, but don't complain when you're miserable and have no friends or job  

Yeah. Idgaf what language you speak, but don't expect society to accommodate you. On the other hand, I'm not opposed to government agencies making reasonable accommodations to maximally communicate laws, tax requirements, etc. where necessary.


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#17
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How much obligation, if any, are you under to speak the language of the country you live in


I say it's mandatory

It should be almost mandatory. All official business should be conducted in the official national language. All laws should be written in the official national language. Translations of legal notices might be provided as a curtesy, but they should never, ever be legally binding. All applications for any sort of government benefit or privilege should be in the single official national language. Individuals may, at their own expense, obtain an interpreter or translator. If any private sector voluntary association, like a church or any civic group chooses to provide free interpreter or translator services, they should be permitted to do so. 

The only exception is that those rights expressly described in the Bill of Rights as belong to "the people" should not be denied because someone cannot speak or read the official national language. The phrase "the people" is not the same as "the citizens", which means non-citizens who are people are also entitled to those rights. 

Personally, I'd like a Supreme Court ruling to define "the people" as meaning only citizens and legal aliens. A tourist or legal alien in America on a proper visa should enjoy the right to a trial by jury, etc. An illegal alien, no. 

But, even though that's what I think the law should be, I'm afraid that's not what it is. 
#18
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#19
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Zero obligation, but don't complain when you're miserable and have no friends or job  

This pretty much sums up my opinion. I am currently living in Germany, and not knowing the language can make socializing a bit difficult, and finding a good job is close to impossible as you would expect. I think what's more important then learning the language of the country you're living in, is embracing the etiquette adopted by it's citizens. Be mindful and respectful of that nations cultural tradition and try to adhere to their rules and regulations. Mandatory cultural assimilation to the level of forcing you to learn and speak their language in this day and age of mass-scale globalization seems absurd to me.
#20
Where's that video of a girl telling every other nation to stop being lazy and learn English already?
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#21
Learn the language of your new home.

Teach your children both.
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#22
Unless I had to leave the country quickly for whatever reason, I would take the time to learn at least enough of another country's native language to get by on, if I do decide to immigrate to another country, that is. 

Luckily for me, most of the residents of places I've visited (and would consider moving to) have spoken English as a second language to a very impressive standard (for the most part), but I would feel slightly arrogant having to make everyone speak English for me. It would make me feel like more of an outsider than I already would do.

When I worked in retail, one of the most frustrating things was when someone who could barely speak English wanted to ask you a very specific question, and expected you to understand whatever language they were speaking in. Not only was it annoying in itself, but it also made me feel bad that the international stereotype of an English man on holiday is someone who shouts "WHERES THE PUB?" at the residents, in a vaguely foreign accent. Luckily, smartphone translate apps can be pretty helpful in these situations now.
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#23
I think you should have at least a basic grasp of a language before you move somewhere. And then if you haven't learned a sufficient amount of the language after a year or so, you should be deported or executed. Maybe both.  
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#24
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#25
I firmly believe you should at least be able to understand and communicate to a moderate standard the language you are surrounded by.
Time permitting of course.
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#26
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I firmly believe you should at least be able to understand and communicate to a moderate standard the language you are surrounded by.
Time permitting of course.

Agreed.

Americans need to develop conversational Spanish.

Also, French, in case Canada becomes our 51st or the US becomes their 11th.
#27
There is no obligation.

But why wouldn't you? It would be conducive to nothing but isolation.
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#28
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in the future socialist utopia where the machines do all the labor for us, everyone will have the time & resources to study languages.


there will know people

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#29
Somewhat relevant: Idk how it works anymore, but when my mom was little, her first language growing up was to be Spanish. But once she started going to school, they basically forced her to learn English. They basically told her either keep up or get left behind, so she had to.

Part of the reason why I don't speak Spanish myself (at least not fluently, but I have been studying) is because she picked up a lot of it (actually, both languages if I'm not mistaken) on her own without having people explain it to her, so naturally she has no clue how to explain it to me, most of the time.

Do I think it was the right call? Probably, but they could've been a bit more lenient.
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#31
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It's important to learn the local language but don't be a dick to people who can't speak it fluently. They're trying.
so much this. If you're living in a country there is definitely strong obligation to learn the language. People may mock my mum for her accent but at the end of the day, she still got a C In GCSE English which is a lot more than a lot of people in our area can say.
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#32
Start to learn Mandarin next month through work. Which is hugely useful, considering I live in a Cantonese speaking region.

Thanks, work.

But it's imperative if you go somewhere for an extended period of time, you should learn the language. If you're visiting, it's less of a requirement, more of a courtesy. It's never been a negative thing when I've learnt key phrases when going on holiday.
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