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I grew up using social media and technology as a teen and it's not really that bad
15 38%
I grew up using social media and technology as a teen and it is that bad
10 25%
I did not grow up using social media as a teen and it is not that bad
6 15%
I did not grow up using social media as a teen and it is that bad
9 23%
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#1
I read a thing about parents monitoring their kids cell phone usage and they were all talking about how social media is dangerous and kids these days are sexting and doing drugs and using bad language and addicted to their phones and technology and stuff.

Since we all pretty much grew up using technology and phones and spent our teen years in the social media world do you think social media and what not is bad for teenagers? Do you think being on social media and technologically involved was good or bad for you?
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#2
here is the thing i read:

http://pittsburgh.citymomsblog.com/awareness/open-letter-parents-tweens-know-childs-phone/%E2%80%AC

We prohibit cell phone use in his room and require him to keep it downstairs overnight. Take note parents, as we have regularly seen texts from his friends at all hours of the night, and often on school nights. I’m not talking 10 or 11 at night; think 1 and 2 am and later, on a regular basis. Many kids are never “shutting down.” This has its own effect on our kids’ health and well-being.

During the most recent check of our son’s phone, we found disgusting, appalling, and abhorrent behavior and language. Not just from him … from nearly all of his friends. Boys and girls. We don’t live under a rock; we know they are going to be kids. They are going to swear. They are going to make dirty jokes.

But we saw sexting. We saw pictures of 8th grade girls with just their bra. We saw pictures that girls took of their naked backsides. We saw pictures of girls sitting on guys’ laps with texts that described his … well, you know. There were text messages about getting drunk, going out and “hoeing it up” and texts about getting high. There were joking references to the KKK. The language some of these kids used made us uncomfortable (and we’re not exactly PG in the company of other adults). Kids were talking about oral sex. About full-blown sex. Kids threatening our son to fight (which he accepted; thank God it never took place. He didn’t think that far ahead). Over a girl, no less.

Parents, these are our kids. They’re 13 and 14 years old, and talking about getting drunk, high, and having sex. They’re sending naked and semi-naked pictures of themselves. These are A students, star athletes, and generally nice kids. But if you open your child’s phone, you may get a different picture of your son or daughter and their circle of friends. We certainly did, and let me tell you, we were shocked.
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#3
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#4
social media isn't doing this to your kids. your bad parenting is  
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#5
I don't think that 20-30 y/o's right now are that impacted by social media use by I'm pretty sure it will have a large effect on current pre-teens. I don't know if it will be a negative effect per se but it will surely be different as traditional socialization among peers fucking around outside in the woods or something is transferred into an online, thought-out, malleable presence. If anonymous, I think it impacts one's behavior even more. I don't think parenting behaviors will necessarily change anything about the general trend of social behaviors in the future either. 

As for teenagers doing sex shit, that's always been around but I can see how having digital photos of that shit our there could be a problem.
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#6
No, teens were always like this it's just changing it to a different place; online.

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#9
I will preface this with the fact that I don't have any kids, and I assume the task of raising them is a difficult one.

However, social media is just another technological implement in communication and social connectivity. We haven't yet passed some technological event horizon where social media has unequivocally surpassed our ability to influence our children by raising them to the best of our ability, and instilling in them the habits, values, and discipline that some of us bemoan social for having ruined.

We are nowhere near reaching that sort of technology threshold, in fact I would imagine it has to be practically ubiquitous (which it is actually quite far from) in order to reach that point.

I'm hesitant to blame "bad parenting", because that's a can of fucking worms and a pretty heinous accusation to level at someone, but I strongly believe that the core difficulty and responsibility of a parent and family to raise their children is fundamentally unchanged.

I'd rather hear your take on it bradulator, what with you interacting with this age group daily.
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#10
I'm gonna say it's somewhat bad 
like letting ur kid know where u hide ur gun ..and booze :=[
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#12
Social media makes teens more visible in society, and as such, it's fucking cancerous.
#13
I thank God every day that we didn't have social media when i was a teenager.
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#14
Instant messaging didn't get me laid in highschool, and I doubt the internet will ever get me laid, I usually at the very least meet people irl before I go try to bang them. 

On the concerns of fucking cursing and doing bongs, I did that without social media's influence, it was more like, I don't give two fucks about censorship, and someone offered me a hit of this or that, I didn't meet people to do bongs by going to the bong group on facebook.

Parents are fucking dumb, kids have been sexing swearing and doing the "dope" since america. 

I've had maybe two girls send me nudes, and it was only because it got them off and I was dating them, I didn't really care either way.  With all the porn out there I don't see why sexting is bad, other than they're not of legal age to be doing it, and it's kinda gross to anyone that is of age. 
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#15
lol at adults having trouble accepting that their kids have multifaceted personalities where they can be nice pleasant straight-A student-athlete churchgoers who also like black humor, getting wasted, and hoeing it up

I appreciate that these kind of parents haven't been so narrowly strict that these youths ended up totally repressing everything. Communicatiom technologies and social media platforms provide a fun (if irritating to everyone else) outlet from the moralizing perfectionistic neuroses on display in mommy blogs
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#16
I wonder about problems from porn, because there is some seriously hard core stuff out there and young kids have access.
#17
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With all the porn out there I don't see why sexting is bad, other than they're not of legal age to be doing it, and it's kinda gross to anyone that is of age. 

You mention why it is bad, the under age stuff and I don't think kids were always into anal sex and drug abuse since "America".

I will say this, my perspective is set to a certain degree, it's based off how I was raised and my experiences.
It's hard for me to tell if what's going just doesn't agree with my perspective, or is actually bad behavior.
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I'd rather hear your take on it bradulator, what with you interacting with this age group daily.

lol @ asking brad to take a stance
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#20
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social media isn't doing this to your kids. your bad parenting is  

I would say in a lot of case peers have more influence than parents do.
#21
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#23
Social media is not bad

unresponsible use of social media may lead to maladaptive behaviours that lead to one concluding that social media is bad for teens, but in fact it is their, their peer group, their general role models, the state, the media, and their parents ignorance and stupidity which forms this badness.
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#24
I grew up with very little adult supervision, there were no blogs, no CC, yet it was a much safer time and society, people knew everyone down the block and left their doors open for most of the time.

Personally, I am ok with social media up to a point. I think privacy is a human right, yet it has been stepped on heavily in the internet age. All these apps on your phone leech on your details, location, etc. Also, lets look at the time wasting effect on it. I cut off Facebook from my life. Guess what? I have a bout 5 extra hours per week, and I don't miss a single thing. FB still tries to send me reminders that I need to get back on

For the most part I am noticing a dumbing down of today's youth. They're becoming great button pushers and attention whores, but once a real job needs to get done, something outside of an iPhone or Android phone and things look really bleak. There's no attention span or concentration, for the most part it is a buttefly fleeting culture.

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#25
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I grew up with very little adult supervision, there were no blogs, no CC, yet it was a much safer time and society, people knew everyone down the block and left their doors open for most of the time.

Personally, I am ok with social media up to a point. I think privacy is a human right, yet it has been stepped on heavily in the internet age. All these apps on your phone leech on your details, location, etc. Also, lets look at the time wasting effect on it. I cut off Facebook from my life. Guess what? I have a bout 5 extra hours per week, and I don't miss a single thing. FB still tries to send me reminders that I need to get back on

For the most part I am noticing a dumbing down of today's youth. They're becoming great button pushers and attention whores, but once a real job needs to get done, something outside of an iPhone or Android phone and things look really bleak. There's no attention span or concentration, for the most part it is a buttefly fleeting culture.

Talking about being churchgoing and bad at the same time... for example, I can tell you about a cheerleader named Wendy, but there are bunch of Motley Crue and Def Leppard songs that describe it better than I do

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#26
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Instant messaging didn't get me laid in highschool, and I doubt the internet will ever get me laid, I usually at the very least meet people irl before I go try to bang them. 

On the concerns of fucking cursing and doing bongs, I did that without social media's influence, it was more like, I don't give two fucks about censorship, and someone offered me a hit of this or that, I didn't meet people to do bongs by going to the bong group on facebook.

Parents are fucking dumb, kids have been sexing swearing and doing the "dope" since america. 

I've had maybe two girls send me nudes, and it was only because it got them off and I was dating them, I didn't really care either way.  With all the porn out there I don't see why sexting is bad, other than they're not of legal age to be doing it, and it's kinda gross to anyone that is of age. 

I agree with most of this. People who fear that social media will become a gateway to drugs and sex are missing the point: teens have been into drugs and sex for as long as there have been teens.

I do, however, see social media and technology in general creating problems for kids I've worked with (I work in schools), problems I didn't have when I was kid. Problems like:
- easy access to hate and hate groups
- easy ways to send and receive threats, especially anonymous ones
- conflicts between two people quickly turning into crowd events and/or community-wide news
- permanent photographic record of things that can be used to shame and humiliate people
- coordinated harassment
- etc.

This doesn't necessarily mean that social media and technology are entirely bad things, but I do think they are causing a lot of problems for young people that their parents and teachers aren't equipped to help them with.

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I do kinda worry about how much fucked porn is out there

The problem with porn, IMO, is that it has become our de facto form of sex education--because we as a culture are afraid to really educate our young people about sex. There's a really, really easy way to fix this, though.
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#27
it's not like there aren't issues with social media and the internet but definitely close monitoring of a teenager's internet use and communication is in the vast majority of cases far more damaging both to the individual and to your relationship with them

i would not be able to have the close relationship i do with my friends who ended up being far away from me if it weren't for social media so
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#28
Social media is good for advertisers only. Keeping in touch with old friends would be great if it wasnt a wicked scam
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#29
I would of said no a few weeks ago. However after watching 13 reason why, it opened my eyes to cyber bullying that I never thought about before hand. Bullying is no longer just during the school days but goes on 24/7. Of course how you parent plays a major role but you can't change how others parent. Keeping your kids off social media may put a target on your kid to be bullied more in school. Its really a double edged sword. Im also thankful that every picture ever taken of me isnt on the internet like so many parents do today. Im so happy that every picture of me isnt available to anyone with internet access.
#30
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it's not like there aren't issues with social media and the internet but definitely close monitoring of a teenager's internet use and communication is in the vast majority of cases far more damaging both to the individual and to your relationship with them

Disagree. I've seen teenagers threaten each other, coordinate attacks on classmates, and give out their phone numbers to strangers on social media. Social media use by minors should be monitored.
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#31
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Disagree. I've seen teenagers threaten each other, coordinate attacks on classmates, and give out their phone numbers to strangers on social media. Social media use by minors should be monitored.
nah especially after about 13 when they start to develop into a real person monitoring their communications is a massive breach of trust and not only will they almost certainly figure out ways to circumvent your surveillance, they will also stop wanting you to know about things that they otherwise would because they won't feel able to trust you

as far as the specific things you mentioned, the last one being an issue of personal safety i think there's a lot to be said for education that, rather than establishing overly restrictive "don't ever do anything on the internet" rules, actually gives an understanding of how privacy and safety on the internet works

regarding the others, those will pretty much happen with or without the internet as a means of communication - definitely if internet communications are monitored they will happen somewhere you can't monitor them - but imo you're probably going to find out about these things a lot later than if you have a kid who actually trusts you, and trust being a two-way thing a situation where both trust and surveillance of your kid's communications coexist is extremely unlikely

although i've known of plenty of parents who delude themselves when it comes to their relationship with their kids

even on a purely practical level what it comes down to is that if you're monitoring your kid's internet use your kid will know you're monitoring their internet use and they conduct any communications they don't want you to know about elsewhere
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#32
I don't believe so, insomuch that I'm actually in a position to comment much on what is healthy for such age groups It's a change of culture of teens, which we've had many times in the past and with what I know of history, I haven't seen a teen generation negatively affected by the new cultures that sprung up around them.
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#33
I do not think it is good, but is it bad in a positive sense (i.e., beyond lacking goodness)?
#34
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The problem with porn, IMO, is that it has become our de facto form of sex education--because we as a culture are afraid to really educate our young people about sex. There's a really, really easy way to fix this, though.


I plan on talking to my kiddos

But I'm still kinda worried about them seeing shit when they are really young. I had dial-up till I was 15(?) and I I remember pre-porn industry collapse in 06 when porn was actually hard to find. Now you can find a scat blog on tumblr just as easy as you can find a yt vid.

I'm kinda worried that my kid might get into some fucked shit. I always knew about sex, that was never hidden, and I won't hide it. But it will be hard to keep them from seeing things. I wouldn't give a shit if it was the trad nude chick in a magazine at a friends house, but some stuff is a bit much. It took me a while to become jaded. I had a bit of a rough time at some points tbh. I feel like it will be worse for him or her.

idk

I'm not going to shield them from stuff. I've seen how that ends up repeatedly.

But I don't know how I'll handle it
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#35
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social media isn't doing this to your kids. your bad parenting is  

oh sh*t

On a more serious note, I do actually agree with this.  Social media is just a platform through which to communicate and share, what is actually being shared depends on the teen, not social media itself.  Any negative effects of social media really depend on what teens are using it for, and how.
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social media isn't doing this to your kids. your bad parenting is  

When even this guy can see it, you know the jig is up. 
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Bad parents are always blaming others for their own failure. 
#39
I was a deviant teenager and I didn't get a phone until I was 16 (2012) which I then proceeded to barely use, so I wasn't influenced by social media much as a youth.

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social media isn't doing this to your kids. your bad parenting is  

I would also add what other parents are like and expose their children to. If you have a kid and you bring them up so they have some semblance of morals in their head and they're exposed to other kids that have fewer/lesser morals and find themselves falling in with the crowd, it starts to become out of the parent's control.
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#40
I seriously think social media has doomed a generation. 

1) Look at the number of selfie-related deaths, for example. That is now a thing. 

2) Look at the explosion of so-called "revenge" porn and all these weird scandals like Army soldiers posting nudes of all the women in their corps on the net and rating them. Whatever happened to a graceful break up? 

3) Look at people on the streets or in trains or at dinner tables. Their faces are stuck in their cellphones and tablets. They are addicted as surely as some people are hooked on drugs. And yes, dopamine is released when you get a like or someone responds to a comment, just like it is when you smoke or drink. 

I read a story about a Chinese teen who deformed her neck muscles permanently because she was always looking at her phone. 

4) Look at the kinds of people we emulate as "heroes" nowadays. People like that 13-year-old girl who steals cars and robs malls and has thousands of followers on Twitter. Or the Kardashians. Or Justin "I lip sync on stage" Bieber. That would never have happened if people valued content more than looks. 

5) Just look at the kinds of things that are spread/shared on social media. Absolute garbage most of the time and a lot of it is "fake news" (and I mean really libellious, seditious, and unauthentic falsehoods). And most of Generation Y doesn't understand that. Hell, they don't even read the newspapers, preferring to get all their "news" from social media. As a result, they are just that much easier to fool (get their friends to like shit and see if they don't hit like). 

6) Everything they have ever done is now being used to create profiles to market products to them. This is also being used by governments and intelligence services of other countries to glean as much information about people as they can, eg. where do they live, who are their friends, where do they work, what are their religious views, what are their political views, etc. 

People may not give a sh*t about that nowadays, but in my day, we were listening to stuff like: 
"We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials to create a vaccum. Then we build that vaccum. As popular war advances, it brings us closer"

and
"Through counter-intelligence we can pinpoint potential trouble makers and neutralise them." 

and
"I take pride in probing all your secret rooms. My tearless retina takes pictures that can prove"

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