#1
hi, does any1 knows if the RGA from the Iron Label, the one called RGAIX6FM, have a coil tap or split coil?

the website say "coil tap switch" and describe it as "a lower output-to provide a more vintage-like tone" which kinnda sound like coil tap, but in the picture it shows split coil cuz only one of the pickups in the humbucker is painted red....

also, when I use the switch it kindda sounds more strat-like and has a lot more "huming" or buzzing or w/e u call it...

so, which is it?
#2
It's a split coil, tapping is completely different but unfortunatley the nomenclature is commonly misused, much in the same way as tremolo is used in place of vibrato when describing a whammy bar thanks to Leo Fender!


http://www.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Gear-Tech/en-us/Tuned-Coil-Tap-vs-Tap-vs-Split.aspx
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#4
If you see something described as a coil tap when the guitar has humbuckers, odds are it's actually a split. You can have taps with humbuckers, but they tend not to do them (I think it costs more). If a guitar has genuine single coils, though, and it says it has a tap, then it's a tap.
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#5
Yeah the main point of a tap is to give a lower output more vintage sound to modern higher output single coils.
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#6
Well, I mean it should (presumably, I haven't tried them) work the same way for humbuckers, except nobody does them
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#7
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Well, I mean it should (presumably, I haven't tried them) work the same way for humbuckers, except nobody does them


I suppose it would if you want the option of hi-lo output buckers which does sound enticing, so wouldn't the ultimate be a humbucker that is both tapped and split?
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#8
yeah. and maybe parallel too

then you just get confused with all the knobs
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#9
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It's a split coil, tapping is completely different but unfortunatley the nomenclature is commonly misused, much in the same way as tremolo is used in place of vibrato when describing a whammy bar thanks to Leo Fender!


Okay, so coil "split" means the pickup has a whammy, but coil "tap" means the tremolo does vibrato?
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Okay, so coil "split" means the pickup has a whammy, but coil "tap" means the tremolo does vibrato?


Exactly!
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#11
Quote by Dave_Mc
If you see something described as a coil tap when the guitar has humbuckers, odds are it's actually a split. You can have taps with humbuckers, but they tend not to do them (I think it costs more). If a guitar has genuine single coils, though, and it says it has a tap, then it's a tap.


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yeah. and maybe parallel too
then you just get confused with all the knobs


Tap tap tap on the ceiling if you waaaaant meeeeee....

You'd think all of this would have been sorted out long ago.
Wait, it was.
I have an '82 Ibanez AR300 that has two Tri-Sound switches, which allow you to choose standard humbucking (serial)/parallel/coil split modes for each pickup.

Well, hell, come to think of it, My old Gibson L6-S (early '70's) has a six-way pickup selector that uses serial, parallel and out-of-phase choices (in conjunction with an inductor or a redactor an interdigitor or something) to produce a fairly wide range of sounds AND it has a mids rolloff pot in addition to the treble rolloff we all randomly call a "tone" pot. Tell me again why we don't have those options now?
#12
the getting confused thing

also it costs more money
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#13
Quote by Dave_Mc
yeah. and maybe parallel too

then you just get confused with all the knobs


Sounds like something Frank Zappa would do TBH!

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