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#1
Hello guys , as you can see , im rock/metal guitar player and fun of rock music. Im also in school band , and we are playing commercial music like (Like Rihanna , Maroon 5). And on the end of school year i played Satch Boogie (Satriani). Nobody was listening to me. They were talking , playing mobile games .. But then , our  bassguitarist/vocalist came , played 4 chords song , and everybody was paying attention. But this happened to me a lot of times , not only in school. In our gigs , just simply everywhere. But our vocalist/bassguitarist has his own band , and they are making their first album , people of our school are interested what are they making. He and his bandmates are gods for people from our school and town. I know , that im better than they , im trying to practice as much as im able to , but im realizing that all my hard work has gone to ******  Girls like them , teachers , guys , they have better equipment to record , so they can be famous. 
And I ? Girls are ignoring me , teachers even dont know that im playing on guitar , i have just Behringer combo and shitty ABX guitar , because my mum isnt able to give mi a lot money , and im to young to work :/ 
I would like to be A LITTLE BIT famous , but im just looser , who sits all day long in room and practice guitar.  

PS: Sorry for my English , im from Czech Republic 
#2
Sounds like an amazing country tbh. 
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#3
Well it's a good thing you faced reality sooner than later. A lot of people find that type of music boring (including myself). Everybody has their own taste in music and that's okay. I suggest for you to explore other genres of music, there's a lot of good stuff out there that isn't all scales and arpeggios.

PS: Sorry for my English , im from America

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#4
Great country. Rock is hated and bluegrass is loved.

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#5
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#7
If you really want to be a famous rock / metal player then you have to be in the right band, at the right place and at the right time. You clearly are not in the right band, and the right place is normally a capital city. The right time, I suspect, was many years ago. 

P.S. Sorry for my correct English, I am from England.
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If you really want to be a famous rock / metal player then you have to be in the right band, at the right place and at the right time. You clearly are not in the right band, and the right place is normally a capital city. The right time, I suspect, was many years ago. 

P.S. Sorry for my correct English, I am from England.

I know you're joking, but there are countries where rock still is unanimously the most popular form of music. In Japan it's still pretty big.

And there is a lot of rock that is about as boring as a lot of contemporary top 40 pop. 
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Hey remember when I said:
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#10
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But then , our  bassguitarist/vocalist came , played 4 chords song , and everybody was paying attention.

This is where I get suspicious. Unless he was Lemmy, Paul McCartney, Sting, or Geddy, I doubt that a bassist/vocalist is getting that much love.
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Hey remember when I said:
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liking 21 pilots is not okay

lol

I mean, my favorite genre alternates between classical and prog/art rock. Then there's jazz, too. Rock is quite popular if you're gonna do the comparison.
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#12
Only guitar nerds - objectively the worst form of nerd, except people who think Voyager is the best Star Trek series - care about Joe Satriani and would have wanted to hear nearly 5 minutes of squeedly guitar masturbation while they're making plans for what to do over the summer.

Well, that's not fair. I guess Joe's mom cares about him, too.
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Only guitar nerds - objectively the worst form of nerd, except people who think Voyager is the best Star Trek series - care about Joe Satriani and would have wanted to hear nearly 5 minutes of squeedly guitar masturbation while they're making plans for what to do over the summer.

Well, that's not fair. I guess Joe's mom cares about him, too.

Brah you shit-talkin' Joe Satriani

technically I'm a guitar-nerd but of the lowest degree because music theory is much more interesting but Satch is aight
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Brah you shit-talkin' Joe Satriani

technically I'm a guitar-nerd but of the lowest degree because music theory is much more interesting but Satch is aight

Way to (intentionally, I hope) miss the point.
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Way to (intentionally, I hope) miss the point.

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Hello guys , as you can see , im rock/metal guitar player and fun of rock music. Im also in school band , and we are playing commercial music like (Like Rihanna , Maroon 5). And on the end of school year i played Satch Boogie (Satriani). Nobody was listening to me. They were talking , playing mobile games .. But then , our  bassguitarist/vocalist came , played 4 chords song , and everybody was paying attention. But this happened to me a lot of times , not only in school. In our gigs , just simply everywhere. But our vocalist/bassguitarist has his own band , and they are making their first album , people of our school are interested what are they making. He and his bandmates are gods for people from our school and town. I know , that im better than they , im trying to practice as much as im able to , but im realizing that all my hard work has gone to ******  Girls like them , teachers , guys , they have better equipment to record , so they can be famous. 
And I ? Girls are ignoring me , teachers even dont know that im playing on guitar , i have just Behringer combo and shitty ABX guitar , because my mum isnt able to give mi a lot money , and im to young to work :/ 
I would like to be A LITTLE BIT famous , but im just looser , who sits all day long in room and practice guitar.

PS: Sorry for my English , im from Czech Republic 

No one wants to hear Satch Boogie except other guitar players or musicians.  You likely impressed all of them so don't sell yourself short - that kind of attention can be worth much more than a few screaming idiots. You could later form bands with those players or at least earn a reputation for being a great guitarist.

If you want to impress the general public -the solution is simple - find a band and play songs people know - then everyone will like it.  That applies in any country.  If you want to play obscure instrumental music you need to find the right venues and you certainly won't be attracting many girls. 

People always react better to songs they know - so just play a song at your school that is popular and everyone will lose their minds. 

If you want attention from the general public playing rock, you need vocals.  It's that simple.   

I played an instrumental version of "Take the Time" from Dream Theater at our high school - I still have people come to me and talk about it years later - but only musicians, the rest of the students probably had no idea what the hell was going on during that 6 minutes of insanity  lol. I'm sure if people had smartphones back then they would have tuned out pretty damn quick. 
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I know you're joking, but there are countries where rock still is unanimously the most popular form of music. In Japan it's still pretty big.

And there is a lot of rock that is about as boring as a lot of contemporary top 40 pop. 


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Yes, this is the problem I have looking for something new and different and good and something I like.

There's actually really good top 40 stuff out there. I mean, it's less than 1% of the stuff but I'll be damned if Bruno Mars isn't a talented dude.

For contemporary bands that I think are legitimately good, check out Hiatus Kaiyote, Vulfpeck and Caravan Palace. None of them are rock though. I'd also add Esperanza Spalding to the list if you're into contemporary jazz/funk/soul/pop. Her last record took a sharp turn to rock though.
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#19
It's so surprising from the 80's early 90's. I remember back during the 80's, that shred was in. But i wonder what happened to change everything.
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It's so surprising from the 80's early 90's. I remember back during the 80's, that shred was in. But i wonder what happened to change everything.

Shred was relatively new in the 80's. In the early 90's, people got tired of certain trends and social attitudes shifted. It happens all the time. We're just living in an era in which what's popular tends to kind of really suck.
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#21
Anybody who isn't a bedroom shredder doesn't care about Joe Satriani or his music whatsoever. Which is most people.

The non-musically inclined general public want something they can easily recognize, is catchy and easy to digest. Joe Satriani is none of those things.

And who can blame kids for not knowing who Joe Satriani is? The only music that he ever made that was close to being relevant was made before any of the kids in your schoolground were even born.

Play something they might actually know. Then you might get somewhere.
 
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#22
Fuck rock, live punk.  Prague is huge, and y'all are responsible for FPB and E!E
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#24
Petruccinator45

Hey man, I understand, most people don't appreciate complex stuff (especially girls), but you just come to terms with it. You pretty much have to live 2 different lives to keep everything going. What do you want from guitar & music? Why are you too young to work? Are you younger than 15?

Buy an audio interface, you won't be famous but you'll improve a TON by recording yourself, this opens the doors for you to recording yourself and mixing, eventually making your own music, put as much work into it as you can while still practicing guitar technique, you'll be tired as fuck but if you have good ear you'll get very good, you won't necessarily get any recognition but here we go again, as you show your work to people, they start taking an interest, maybe you get a chance to work with someone, so on and so on..

High school fame means nothing, living for guitar can be tough and not everyone will stick to it. If you want more girls or whatever work on your looks, be fun to hang around with, don't let your guitar skills be the only thing you have to define you, because most won't understand.

The key is to play it smart. What do you want from life? Is guitar really the way to get there?
#25
what are you talking about? 
Czech has plenty of metal bands
looks like Prague has a big metal scene

https://www.metal-archives.com/lists/CZ
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what are you talking about? 
Czech has plenty of metal bands
looks like Prague has a big metal scene

https://www.metal-archives.com/lists/CZ

Metal, Punk, rock, all of it.  Some of the best music is born in those political climates.  It's why Russian black metal, and Japanese Doom, and Mexican punk all kick major ass.  From what I understand though, it REALLY depends on where you're at - the class divide is amplified in in this region, which unfortunately does make a difference.  
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#27
Yeah, when it comes to taste in music you just have to accept current culture and not judge. If it was up to me, I'd make everybody like disco music again, but alas I can not, and I have to live with that.

If you want to make it big as a rock artist, play in a culture that appreciates it more; play in a much bigger society where you are bound to find a reasonably sized subculture of rockers; or create something so new, original and fresh that you convert "rock haters" and make them like your music.
#28
TS, a much more realistic thread title is "Almost everybody in my immediate day to day interactions seems to hate rock music."

Rock music isn't special. It isn't underground. It's an extremely popular genre across the world that makes up, or at least influences, a lot of popular music today.

Satch Boogie, however, is boring as hell. Your song choice, for the audience, was poor. If you played a rock staple, with a full band, then I guarantee that st least some would have paid attention.

I work as a loudspeaker product specialist. Last week, we opened a flagship store in Hong Kong. We had a demonstration to key online media- young popular bloggers, etc. The first three songs I played were standard audiophile fare, because I had to. The last song? Thunderstruck. Not the best recording, and all of these people were too young to be around when it was a newly released single. But they were familiar with it, and that's the track that connected the most.

In short: know your audience.
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#29
You play to try to please girls? That's not how it works dude, forget all your illusions that ladies would go crazy about you because you play the guitar.

Thankfully, with the internet you can record the songs you like to play and you'll have an interested audience from all around the world. When it comes to the folks around there, I subscribe what Deliriumbassist has already said. You don't need to play exactly what they like, just investigate a bit about what could connect with the audience you're playing to inside your music genre. Just don't go there, playing what you want to play, expecting everyone to like it as well - get what could connect and interest those people. Hey, you have the luck to have an audience, stage and I assume free gear, so don't act like you're an unfortunate.

As a final note, I doubt you're the only person in your country enjoying metal. In most places most people listen to what's trendy at the moment, lesser people have a particular music taste besides the current fad and even lesser people appreciate rock more than just the most popular bands. I'd be surprised if you went into a school where most people liked rock, that simply does not exist.  Eventually you'll find out other folks that have similar interests of yours around there, I'm quite sure.
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#30
Want to attract hot girls?  Play John Mayer, Slash, Jason Mraz.  Want to attract 14 yr old adolescent male guitar nerds?  Play Satch, Vai, Malmsteen.  It doesn't get any more simple than that.  

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#31
If it's any condolence, no country cares about shitty wankfest.

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#32
Weird. The Czech Republic supposedly loves rock music. I've read accounts of people lining up for days and crying with joy to see The Rolling Stones when the country gained independence and could finally listen to 'capitalist' music. Even today bands like the Stones and AC/DC are apparently huge in that part of Europe.

That said, maybe they love raucous pinch-of-chords rock music as opposed to technical guitar music? Try playing some Beatles and ESPECIALLY Rolling Stones songs and see.
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Can't confirm. Have been in a high school band.
 
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What if I play Stevie Wonder and Supertramp? 
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#36
that's funny because almost everyone under my rock hates country music.
#37
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Hello guys , as you can see , im rock/metal guitar player and fun of rock music. Im also in school band , and we are playing commercial music like (Like Rihanna , Maroon 5). And on the end of school year i played Satch Boogie (Satriani). Nobody was listening to me. They were talking , playing mobile games .. But then , our  bassguitarist/vocalist came , played 4 chords song , and everybody was paying attention. But this happened to me a lot of times , not only in school. In our gigs , just simply everywhere. But our vocalist/bassguitarist has his own band , and they are making their first album , people of our school are interested what are they making. He and his bandmates are gods for people from our school and town. I know , that im better than they , im trying to practice as much as im able to , but im realizing that all my hard work has gone to ******  Girls like them , teachers , guys , they have better equipment to record , so they can be famous. 
And I ? Girls are ignoring me , teachers even dont know that im playing on guitar , i have just Behringer combo and shitty ABX guitar , because my mum isnt able to give mi a lot money , and im to young to work :/ 
I would like to be A LITTLE BIT famous , but im just looser , who sits all day long in room and practice guitar.  

PS: Sorry for my English , im from Czech Republic 


well as far as I'm aware lots of people in your country love metal, not sure about "rock" though. Loads of people from the metal scene here travel all the way to your country every year for fests like brutal assault and obscene extreme.

you'll never find many kids into metal/rock/etc within your school or with the average person out there though, "mainstream" is always going to be king there. This is pretty much the same in any country.
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#38
Forget all about that macho shit and learn how to play guitar, wait ,no scratch that.

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