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#81
Quote by sfaune92
Couldn't you guys add some rules on the front page on how to crit. Because Funkytonkys for instance clearly don't know how to crit. Also, there seem to be very few that crits "unprovoked", meaning they only crit back. There's only 1 out of 7 that critted mine who did it "unprovoked". And that guy didn't even crit, he just said, "Yeah I too thought he did a good job...".

Sorry if this is just a rant, but it has always been in both this and in the T&C forum that nearly all my crits were repays of C4C's.


No, you should post a detailed crit on other people's threads. Then they'll return the favor; simple as pie.

EDIT: Oops, I didn't see that the post I quoted was more than 2 years old.


this is probably the toughest section of the forum to get replies. i don't think you can say someone doesn't know how to crit a song thats not really fair. some people are better at expressing themselves than others. also if others have pointed out flaws or good parts already then rehashing is pointless. i've found that just being around so people recognize your name helps as well.
#82
Hmmm C4Cing used to work greatly in the past. I've also NEVER missed a C4C request(maybe once, but that was when my computer was broken). I also critted pretty much with my own opinion, I never done a half ass job at listening. I had alot reply's back then(idk maybe 2006-2008) than now. There's other folks now who don't even ask for C4C and they still get listens. It's either I've acquired a bad reputation, or there's a bunch of fags who have no respect for the word "C4C" It aggravates the shit out of me, honestly. There are dudes that visit my page but still no word. I guess I must not be well liked here lol.
Last edited by v2a2n2g2 at Mar 31, 2010,
#83
Well...
Last thing I posted got 30 unique replies without me having to bump it every 3 seconds
On the other hand, I dropped critiques on probably all 30 of the listeners...

I know some of you are dead serious arguing about not getting enough replies when all you did was post a youtube of you playing the intro to Crazy Train.

People respond to what they like, I know plenty of people posting Metalcore GP tabs that get more replies than me without C4Cing, but you all have to understand also that posting up your experimental suicidal black metal core band might not be the most popular thing since sliced bread.

What I'm getting at here is.
Necrobump my threads
and tell me how sexy I am
and maybe, just maybe, I will piss on your UG Career and you will be famous from here to 4chan.


Lol...nah seriously though.
C4Cing has worked for me so far.
#84
It's not always some crazy Folk/Ambient/Prog/Black/Jazz/Black(..core, lol) but I guess I your right about that. I'm just questioning why C4C isn't as good for me anymore, I've seem some guys posting around into things they wouldn't listen to, and they get returns too, well not all the time but still.... It guess doesn't matter though, my music sounds good to me and I guess having satisfication in your own music is what matters most (could be wrong though :/
#85
Nah...having satisfaction in your own music will not sell records...
HAHA...
Seriously though.
I really wasn't referring to you in my earlier post outside of the fact that I do think C4C works to some extent. Lots of people simply don't return the favor. But also, you have to be proactive in posting on other peoples stuff instead of waiting for someone to post on yours and then returning the favor. I guess initiative is what I'm getting at.

But you could be doing all that and still get no replies, I really don't know your situation. I do remember posting on your stuff way back in 09 because I liked it...it was some thrash song.

I also see that unlike on alot of sites your quality will hold you back. If your tone is not right and you dont have pro-demo quality (sm57 miced amps or direct input into a modeler) you will suffer. People here the noise from the recording and before it can even kick in they're off your shit. I know because I have to tell myself to stick through some of these 8track cassette ass recordings sometimes. Dont even get me started on the tone*****s here, I swear. They'll get on your ass because your 500mhz frequency isn't loud enough. Wtf is that?

UGers are just some picky ass mofos.

Keep on truckin' though...
If the music is good, its good, period.
If it isn't, I'd suggest picking up a gimmick.

#86
Haha well if someone were already selling records, they wouldn't be here! lol This is really is just a place to show off and feel like those big bands though 'cause most of us aren't signed to a record label and almost no one here is on tour, amiright. lol idk
#90
Hi, I'm just wondering if I'm allowed to post a link for one of my friend's original recordings on here - he's amazing, but doesn't want to create, or have a UG account (he's crazy!).
#93
I hate when you leave a pretty decent post on someones song and when they crit your own song all they say is "good job".

That's not a god damn crit! It pisses me off
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#94
Quote by Adam124
I hate when you leave a pretty decent post on someones song and when they crit your own song all they say is "good job".

That's not a god damn crit! It pisses me off

Agreed. I spend time with what I say so they could at least do the same.. but I'd take a "good job" over nothing. I've posted 20+ critiques (on c4c topics) and asked for one in return and only 3 of them ever posted back. Can't seem to get any replies.
#95
Quote by LazyGuitar
^ Bumping is posting in your own thread... yeah, making a new thread is obviously not allowed lol, but bumping is posting in your own thread in order to send it back to the top of the forum.

priest.fan - As I said, if it's something worthwhile and relevant... e.g. defending your work, or if you honestly don't understand what someone means etc then fair enough... and you can say thanks in there. But if it's just a "thanks, anymore?" comment, then go crit and send a PM

EDIT:
Maybe a naughty & nice list could be made... similar to that of "who to listen to" in Musician Talk? List those that never crit others, and those that always do... in addition to the crit exchange system of course. I dunno, probably wouldn't work with the amount of people that come through R&R on a casual basis... just throwing ideas around.

Are we allowed to answer questions?
#99
errmmm, I stopped critting for critting. Now I just crit. I crit all over people. But seriously, I might have just bumped my own post. Well, there's no "might" about it. It happened. Didn't mean to, hand to god. I'm just used to FB updates on the band page. So. . .no hard feelings? It'll go away in a few hours anyway. Or sooner if the thread gets yanked. Which, now, I'm decently sure will happen.
#100
Quote by Zeppelin71
errmmm, I stopped critting for critting. Now I just crit. I crit all over people. But seriously, I might have just bumped my own post. Well, there's no "might" about it. It happened. Didn't mean to, hand to god. I'm just used to FB updates on the band page. So. . .no hard feelings? It'll go away in a few hours anyway. Or sooner if the thread gets yanked. Which, now, I'm decently sure will happen.

Haha, well other than the obvious fact we're in the same band:

Bumping with some sort of legit update about "band news" or whatnot is actually ok (at least in PYB rules, I assume this forum too.)

You're fine broheed.
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#101
Quote by sjones
Haha, well other than the obvious fact we're in the same band:

Bumping with some sort of legit update about "band news" or whatnot is actually ok (at least in PYB rules, I assume this forum too.)

You're fine broheed.



You're not God.
#102
Quote by TechnicolorType
Agreed. I spend time with what I say so they could at least do the same.. but I'd take a "good job" over nothing. I've posted 20+ critiques (on c4c topics) and asked for one in return and only 3 of them ever posted back. Can't seem to get any replies.
I'd rather have a "good job" over nothing. It's weird to get 50 views and 3 comments. Did 50 people really listen? Did they all hate it? Just hearing from people who like what you recorded is more important to me than some of the critiques.

When I post I like what somebody did I really mean it. If it's not my style of music and can't appreciate the song I move on.
#103
Quote by fly135
I'd rather have a "good job" over nothing. It's weird to get 50 views and 3 comments. Did 50 people really listen? Did they all hate it? Just hearing from people who like what you recorded is more important to me than some of the critiques.

When I post I like what somebody did I really mean it. If it's not my style of music and can't appreciate the song I move on.


It's all pretty frustrating on here, I've found. It's crazy seeing 90 views and 1 reply. In a perfect world it should be 90 views 90 replies, but of course that's not going to happen, but I'd take 90 views 20 replies over nothing.

I understand if people don't like what they've heard, but why don't people EXPLAIN why they don't like it rather than just leaving? Constructive criticisms are certainly more helpful than just saying nothing, and are DEFINITELY more helpful than some of the 'I would have done this better' comments that I've seen people leave.

Sometimes I think I put way too much effort into the crits I give people compared to what I get in return
#104
Quote by Metorical
It's all pretty frustrating on here, I've found. It's crazy seeing 90 views and 1 reply. In a perfect world it should be 90 views 90 replies, but of course that's not going to happen, but I'd take 90 views 20 replies over nothing.

I understand if people don't like what they've heard, but why don't people EXPLAIN why they don't like it rather than just leaving? Constructive criticisms are certainly more helpful than just saying nothing, and are DEFINITELY more helpful than some of the 'I would have done this better' comments that I've seen people leave.

Sometimes I think I put way too much effort into the crits I give people compared to what I get in return


I think sometimes it boils down to genres they simply dislike when they peak into a brand new post...I do mostly acoustic stuff and my latest post could damn well be considered easy listening lol so i guess people hear it and automatically think "bleh" soft finger picked acoustic and gentle strings boring!

But i like alot of multi genres so i try to post especially in anyone that doesnt have any reviews yet but a ton of plays etc.
#105
Quote by Metorical
It's all pretty frustrating on here, I've found. It's crazy seeing 90 views and 1 reply. In a perfect world it should be 90 views 90 replies, but of course that's not going to happen, but I'd take 90 views 20 replies over nothing.

I understand if people don't like what they've heard, but why don't people EXPLAIN why they don't like it rather than just leaving? Constructive criticisms are certainly more helpful than just saying nothing, and are DEFINITELY more helpful than some of the 'I would have done this better' comments that I've seen people leave.

Sometimes I think I put way too much effort into the crits I give people compared to what I get in return

i think the rules in place on this forum do a lot to prevent thoughtful discussion. the fact that its frowned upon to post in your own thread makes it difficult to dig deeper and get the important details of what people are really thinking.
the whole 'critique for critique' exchange thats so popular around here doesn't seem to work very well either. a lot of the time it seems people will be overly cautious when expressing their opinions on your work because they don't want to offend you, because they want you to look at their stuff and like it. its a 'i'll scratch your back if you scratch mine' kind of thing in the worst way possible where people don't always care about actually getting feedback, and instead care more about showing off their stuff. thats all fine, and i get it, because really I'm guilty of that too. it'd just be nice to have some brutally honest replies every once in a while from people with nothing at stake
#106
Lately, I'm finding people not even offering the courtesy of responding after posting a comment in their thread. If I owe people a comment and can't find the time to listen I refrain from responding in my own thread until I can fulfill my duty.

The Original Record forum is the only place to show off your music so it would be nice if people could comment as they please rather than it being a "rule" to critique. OTOH I'm finding the rules aren't too enforced.

I am a bit cautious about critiquing because many or most of us are amateurs so I try to frame my comments with the perceived abilities of the musician. I know my comments aren't going to make the person play any better so I look for things that they could improve upon that are separate. Like maybe something about the mix or tone.
#108
i created a thread but had much technical diffuclty getting the links to be right and people stopped paying attention. i wasnt able to get any feedback at all, can I create a new thread?
#110
My problem atm is most definitely lack of experience. I'm extremely amateur as a producer. I can't evaluate others nor me when it comes to mixing. When I mix I can ofc tell if I like this or that better etc. but idk if the end result is "good", although I usually like it.

So the whole point of this post was to say, that I don't really dare creating my own thread for an original that I'd like crits for, because I can't really crit others. Some songs its easy to tell that I don't like the tone of this or that, but on most cases, I just honestly don't know what to say about it, not talking about how to actually improve it.
#111
You can crit song writing without worrying about production.

If you have any kind of ear at all you can normally tell if something sounds too bassy or too messy or what ever.
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#112
So hi! I'm Mike and I'm new here. I've been playing guitar for 7 years going into my 8th. I'm not in a band but I have a couple solo stuff on my profile. I play guitar on my spare time. Thought I'd stop by.
#113
I just find it funny that my thread has 86 views, but the actual song on soundcloud only has 11 play. Like wtf? people just click on the thread and dont click on the link @_@
#114
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#116
Is it okay for me to comment on my own thread asking for no more criticism? I edited my original post with an updated mix that's based off of the great feedback I received and I'm not planning to work on the project further.

edit: scratch that I'll just edit the OP
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#118
I actually really dislike the rules on bumping here. I find it kind of cuts people off from communicating. This is the first forum I've seen with these sorts of rules, and I've never found it necessary before.

I mean, people have to be reasonable, after a while if you're just blatantly bumping your track all the time, then that's not fair to others, but I don't find this gets abused in other forums all that much.

I get it how it wants to be a critique kind of thing. But I don't always need a critique from people, I don't mind hearing whatever comment, and being able to comment on that as well. I also really hate going to someone else's tunes and putting a critique with a link to my tune. I will listen to other peoples' music, and I might give some input as well. And I don't mind at all getting a "thank you." Or some sort of feedback, rather than silence for fear of breaking some bumping rules.

When you think about it, on a system like this, where comments bump up, and something that has been designed to be a critique comments only typed thing, or that promotes critique comments, and critiquing others' stuff, is something that will keep bumping the music that people have the most comments on how to improve it. Which essentially means that it has the most flaws almost.

I would like to hear the tunes that members liked. And ya, if that's because some people said "I liked it" and the guy said "thank you." I'm good with that, I got to hear it, and that's cool.

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#119
Quote by StrangeDaze-
I just find it funny that my thread has 86 views, but the actual song on soundcloud only has 11 play. Like wtf? people just click on the thread and dont click on the link @_@


It's always like that everywhere. And you get even less comments. I think sometimes people read the comments and see, and sometimes they might get a clue to what style it is, that they don't care for, or something like that.
#120
Quote by fc89konkari
My problem atm is most definitely lack of experience. I'm extremely amateur as a producer. I can't evaluate others nor me when it comes to mixing. When I mix I can ofc tell if I like this or that better etc. but idk if the end result is "good", although I usually like it.

So the whole point of this post was to say, that I don't really dare creating my own thread for an original that I'd like crits for, because I can't really crit others. Some songs its easy to tell that I don't like the tone of this or that, but on most cases, I just honestly don't know what to say about it, not talking about how to actually improve it.


This forum, I'm sure is not crawling with pros. Even some people that think they know what they're talking about, probably don't. How many of us here, make millions mixing? Not a whole lot I'm sure.

I think it's fine if you comment and just say some things you like about the tune, and maybe some things you don't like, whatever comments I think are fine. For me? I would like to hear any comment whatsoever. if it is "nice quality, but I don't like that music." Or, "I liked the chorus" Or, "I couldn't hear what you were saying too well." Any comment at all. You don't have to be a pro, just give a subjective comment whatever it may be.

What's rough is that some people might get easily offended. But me, personally, anyone could say absolutely anything about any track I ever post, and I will appreciate it.

I might not always agree with them, but I like to hear the honesty of people. And just people acknowledging that they listened to the track.

I posted the track in my sig in a thread, and the thread has ~40 views. Bancamp doesn't tell me how many listens I get. I have literally no information to go by on how many listens I got or anything. I didn't get any comment whatsoever.

This is the only forum I've ever posted anything on that got a result like that.