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Gerat, talented mathcore (lol mathcore) band. Miss Machine is one intense album. Thoughts?
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nineinch9
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I totally agree. When I first heard them i thought it sounded like total crap, but i slowly got into em and now their one of my favorites. Miss Machine is one of the must have albums of all time.
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#4
everyone says calculating infinity is best but i dont think so. i like miss machine better.
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everyone says calculating infinity is best but i dont think so. i like miss machine better.


Me too.

Miss Machine pwns
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#6
I have calculationg infinity. it is a constand mindfunk of insane breakdown riffs.

I think in all honesty altohugh i appreciate their incredible talent they're far too complicated for me too like them
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#7
Kickass band.
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#8
Amazing music, amazing live performance, amazing band.
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Combat
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I find them too unfocused to be honest.

thats the main reason i dont like calulating infinity as much
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thats the main reason i dont like calulating infinity as much



Exactly the same for me.
Craigo
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#13
Amazing piece of work - one of the bands that brought me onto the scene. One thing I feel about them is because of their unusual structure methods - you think the song is going to end any minute but it's only a minute in. Anyone find that or simular?
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#15
they're awesome. it took some getting used to the structure at first but now they're one of my favourite bands
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#16
I have Miss Machine and it's one of my favorite CDs.
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benchiefjr
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#17
I bought Miss Machine because I heard a lot of stuff about em, and i must say they're damn good, sometimes a little chaotic, but good nonetheless. Plus, the DVD that comes with it...live shows are sweet.
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I really really really want to see them. Everyone says that they are insane live, using fire and throwing drum symbols around. I can't believe I was busy the day they came with Horse the Band and BTBAM. That woulda been one helluva show.
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i want their new cd. i heard it comes out in march and is suppose to own caculating infinity. hopefully it leaks so i can be the loser who gets it early and spoils it for everyone else.
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Quote by Gomorrah
I really really really want to see them. Everyone says that they are insane live, using fire and throwing drum symbols around. I can't believe I was busy the day they came with Horse the Band and BTBAM. That woulda been one helluva show.

Yes, that is easily one of the best tour lineups i've seen for awhile...Unfortunately i dont think it comes to or near iowa.
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Quote by Gomorrah
I really really really want to see them. Everyone says that they are insane live, using fire and throwing drum symbols around. I can't believe I was busy the day they came with Horse the Band and BTBAM. That woulda been one helluva show.


It was the best show i have ever been to.
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#22
Dillinger really revolutionized the whole hardcore scene.

I remember back in the day when they toured with The Locust. It was the most ****ing craziest show ive ever seen.
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#23
I picked up Miss Machine today... wow, what a mindfuck of an album. I had only heard Setting Fire To Sleeping Giants before, so needless to say, I didn't think it would sound much like this. It's chaotic as hell, and the tempo changes are giving me a headache, but it's certainly a lesson in technical complexity and incredible song structure, and fun to figure out as well.
Gomorrah
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I love DEP, but when every review of them says that they are a mix of jazz, metal, etc, they are lying. There is absolutely no jazz in the music of Dillinger Escape Plan.
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LedZeppelin
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^ Yes, there is. It's subtle, but definitely there. Listen to some of the background chords in their songs, especially Setting Fire. The time signature changes are very jazz-like as well, and the drums of course are. A large part of the dissonance in chaotic music like DEP comes from jazz- even the most placid major 7th chord has some dissonance to it, you just don't hear it when the chord is together. What DEP have done is broken these dissonant chords apart and made them into riffs.
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One of my favorite hc bands
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#27
I kinda like them. A lot of their songs are really similar though, so I haven't gotten into them as much. But I've been listening to their stuff a lot more lately.
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#28
I really like them. Sometimes I think they might be too complex, but that's part of the fun of listening to them.
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Quote by Gomorrah
I love DEP, but when every review of them says that they are a mix of jazz, metal, etc, they are lying. There is absolutely no jazz in the music of Dillinger Escape Plan.


they even admit to being all about the jazz. listen to their riffs. listen to mullet burden. they know what they're doing.
if i cut off your arms and legs
and wrap you in some fucked-up cocoon,
would you still look at me and say
"you can't catch what you can't see"
well i caught you honey,
like the clap sugar.
what do you think of that?
Paint
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#32
^yes
if i cut off your arms and legs
and wrap you in some fucked-up cocoon,
would you still look at me and say
"you can't catch what you can't see"
well i caught you honey,
like the clap sugar.
what do you think of that?
saxaxe
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43% Burnt is a ****ing amazing song. I finished learning it the other day and man...I never realized just from listening to it how complex it is. The time signature changes and the sweep picking...I mean damn....
StuartR
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#34
Theres alot of Jazz in old DEP, never heard the new stuff.

Firstly, the chord..........**** it between Mullet burden and 43% Burnt(thats the only ones I know the tab to) theres about 10 parts i can think of influenced by Jazz, the chords straight after the dischords at the start of Mullet, the next riff there is the
-----------5
-----------5
-----------5
-----------4
0 2 3 0
0 2 3 0

that 4 5 chord is jazzed up, then theres the chord solo with the single notes in 43%
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SGRocker0791
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#36
Well, time to dig up an old thread!

Anyways, I have...mixed feelings about DEP. At times, I'll think "the jazziness and odd-time sigs are pretty neat" and other times, I say "Ugh, the hxc vocals are giving me a headache." Hah. So, maybe I'll just have to give them more of a listen. Anyone else feel this way sometimes?
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LedZeppelin
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#37
They aren't hardcore vocals at all really. Not that that invalidates your opinion, but I just thought I should point it out.

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#38
i cant get into them really im not big on the whole mathcore thing
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#39
Quote by LedZeppelin
^ Yes, there is. It's subtle, but definitely there. Listen to some of the background chords in their songs, especially Setting Fire. The time signature changes are very jazz-like as well, and the drums of course are. A large part of the dissonance in chaotic music like DEP comes from jazz- even the most placid major 7th chord has some dissonance to it, you just don't hear it when the chord is together. What DEP have done is broken these dissonant chords apart and made them into riffs.


I agree. I find their music to be ingenious really, the structures, changes and riffs are all very calculated but free at the same time. Definitely one, if not the most talented band in math/tech core today. Really looking forward to their new CD. Don't get enough credit.
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#40
I have Calculating Infinity, Irony is a Dead Scene, and Miss Machine and love all of them. Everything I've heard by them has taken a couple listens to take it all in due to how chaotic it is, but once that happens it isn't hard to see the awesomeness that is there.