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#41
Solid band, all of their releases are good. Nice to hear something new in death metal; I'm sort of tired of the weak songwriting most bands have. Arghoslent songs play out like a good book, whereas most bands are riff A, riff B, riff A, riff B, riff C, breakdown, riff A, riff B, riff C, or some variation.
#42
What a coincidence, haha, only just found out about this Band from another Forum

I have their latest, I like it . I love the fact that they use borderline Melodeath Riffs... WITHOUT boring me to death (ala every Melodeath Band I have heard par AA).
#43
Meh.....the melody really doesnt fit in well. Cover art is cool though.
Quote by Ultraussie
I want to try that while playing the opening riff to "Tempting Time".

0-0-0-13-0-0-0-0-13 or something like that alalalala but It;s so heavy and off time and awesome and you could not f**k anyone to it.


Quote by Ingested
burzum IS nazi. well, varg is.
#45
I'm loving this band. Nice to see a non-generic DM band. Hornets is my favorite though Incorrigible Biggotry owns as well. The title tracks on both albums are some of the best instrumentals I've heard.
Matthew 5:5 - "Blessed are the meek: for they shall Beherit the earth."
#46
Bump.

I still say Hornets and Incorrigible Bigotry is some of the finest metal around.
Matthew 5:5 - "Blessed are the meek: for they shall Beherit the earth."
#47
Quote by Jesus Tod'
Amazing band, the vocals are great. The problem some people have with them is because some of their lyrics express anger against slaves so they get called racists.





Anyway, this band is great, if not a bit overhyped. I have boatloads of respect for them though, as they're one of the few contemporary metals bands with a genuinely original sound that deviates from metal's cookie-cutter subgenres. Some of their songs tend to run together for me after a few listens, but "Ten Lost Tribes" is a personal favorite.
#48
Quelling the Simian Urge is my fav... mostly cause of the epic ass solos... otherwise, my fav riff by them is the intro to Manacled Freightage haha..

and... the submitted tabs are awesome
#49
They're just another rock stupid heavy metal band pretending to be death metal. Basically, this is what Iron Maiden would sound like if they hired a mediocre death metal vocalist, never learned how to write a song and spent their formative years getting the shit kicked out of them by black kids
Last edited by Dylar at Jan 14, 2010,
#50
Indeed, Iron Maiden totally implemented tremolo picked riffs on a regular basis, random bluesy solos and thrash riffs.. OH WAIT

whats with idiots comparing Iron Maiden to every ****ing band ever, honestly?
#51
You could tremolo pick "More Than Feeling," but Boston still ain't death metal. Arghoslent's underlying riff patterns and chord progressions are pure heavy metal, despite the application of death metal technique. The use of harmony is likewise pure heavy metal.

And, for the record, pretty much all Iron Maiden solos are based on blues progressions.
#52
Fair enough, I shouldn't have spoken too much without ever caring much for Maiden aside checking out a few songs, so my mistake there.

However, I think the mistake does lie in calling the band Death Metal... at least as straight forward as that.

That's the argument that gets old, apparently the use of thirds is strictly restricted to heavy metal? I know for a fact some DM bands use thirds -but of a more dissonant nature? Sour thirds? I don't know that much theory so bear with me-

Personally I never thought they were aiming for DM and well I'm not always expecting bands to have a certain note choice, "Hey dudes, lets sound like Demilich!" Otherwise everything would sound like a living cave, full of dark red brown tinges and whatever.

I think it just goes back to whatever their lyrics/concepts try to express or represent, in this case, its pretty much civil war era/pre civil war era themes with their fair share of racism in there and for that, well, I think it'd be pretty awkward or ineffective to take Demilich's note choice or Suffocation's for example.
#53
History lessons? And here you doubted the Iron Maiden comparison...
#54
Arghoslent is fine by me.

Both core musicians understand they aren't a profound musical output and have said so multiple times in interviews. All they claim to do is write chops and riffs for chops and riff loving ears.

Fine by me.

Also not a single person here understands their "racism " it seems.

Figures.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#55
Quote by VampireGoldfish
Arghoslent is fine by me.

Both core musicians understand they aren't a profound musical output and have said so multiple times in interviews. All they claim to do is write chops and riffs for chops and riff loving ears.

Fine by me.

Also not a single person here understands their "racism " it seems.

Figures.

You mean their psuedo-intellectual Stormfront-approved multiculturalism-is-bad BS?

The fact that they don't go around burning crosses while wearing white sheets doesn't make their beliefs any less stupid.
#56
If it stopped at "multiculturalism is bad," I'd have no problem with it. That's a reasonable, rational and probably factually correct stance to take. The "black slavery was awesome!" bit is a touch hard to handle, though.
#57
Quote by Scourge441
You mean their psuedo-intellectual Stormfront-approved multiculturalism-is-bad BS?

The fact that they don't go around burning crosses while wearing white sheets doesn't make their beliefs any less stupid.


I don't know of any reference to all non-whites as 'simian abominations;' it sounds more closely to resemble a broad critical reference to the African lineages, not all non-whites. Because each of our views differ in some of the finer points, I speak for myself when I categorically profess no intrinsic love or honor of all white people. This is utter nonsense. A man is made within, not without. The concept is so basic and fundamental that it is a trite and tiresome topic of discussion. I loathe no man for the melanic concentration in his skin, nor do I admire any man for a fair complexion. The number of miserable and wretched whites on this planet is very great, to be sure (I suspect quite a few of them listen to our 'white power' music). Still, I do generally regard many cultures with a sort of aloof derision.

I am sympathetic towards and inspired by civilizations that have given to the world high art, great science, revolutionary technology, and rich culture, and the most interesting examples to me are of white Europeans. Many continents far beyond Europe have known great empires, but conspicuously sub-Saharan Africa has not. One of the oldest lands trod by man has never mastered architecture, cultivation, technology, science, or any other prerequisite for civilization. In the United State one constantly endures unpleasant interactions with the descendants of these dark and unaccomplished people, and therein is a source of disappointment and irritation that is manifest in some of the descriptions in our songs.

But do not think for a moment that this implies a belief that if one is born white, one is superior. On the contrary, this country knows its current unenviable position because the whites here are so pathetic. Our scholastic performance is below average, our president is a cowboy buffoon, the value of the dollar is laughable, we are in a recession, culture is a foreign concept, foreign policy is an afterthought, we throw billions of dollars at fighting an immortal and intangible concept in the Middle East, and all this as the country is run by whites that were elected by whites. White power? I think not. In fact, the best thing for this country would be for a certain non-white Democratic candidate to win the presidency (and yes, to point out the obvious, he is a very impressive, accomplished man, not the 'simian abomination' referenced above; people should be more discerning when interpreting blanket statements; a country full of men like him would be a far worthier country than one crammed full of corpulent white trash rednecks). But all this just makes for less interesting song material, hence the focus on historical intrigues.



The modern world has always insisted on being so painfully childish about "racism "
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
Last edited by VampireGoldfish at Jan 15, 2010,
#58
I honestly don't expect nor intend to change any of your forged view prints on the subject either and I doubt I will delve any further into the subject.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#59
I said themes btw, brostaph

I didn't care either way, I just read that interview; interesting point of view/explanation

At least the music gives me a vibe of civil-war-ey times or images
#60
Quote by VampireGoldfish
The modern world has always insisted on being so painfully childish about "racism "

Describe people of African descent as "unaccomplished" as though it's a result of their genetics isn't racist?

Arghoslent may know how to write riffs, but they're still idiots. It's one thing to say that there are few scientific, architectural, or other forms of advances to come from sub-Saharan Africa, it's another to say that it's the result of some genetic deficiency, which is what Arghoslent believe.
Last edited by Scourge441 at Jan 15, 2010,
#61
Quote by Scourge441
Describe people of African descent as "unaccomplished" as though it's a result of their genetics isn't racist?

Arghoslent may know how to write riffs, but they're still idiots. It's one thing to say that there are few scientific, architectural, or other forms of advances to come from sub-Saharan Africa, it's another to say that it's the result of some genetic deficiency, which is what Arghoslent believe.


Never once was genetics mentioned.
Again, you're arguing against something that was never proposed, which everyone seems too when it comes to this subject.

If genetics were involved at all, which its obviously not, then they would not hold their obvious feeling of contempt for most of the worlds white people, would they?
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
Last edited by VampireGoldfish at Jan 15, 2010,
#62
Quote by VampireGoldfish
Never once was genetics mentioned.
Again, you're arguing against something that was never proposed, which everyone seems too when it comes to this subject.

If genetics were involved at all, which its obviously not, then they would not hold their obvious feeling of contempt for most of the worlds white people, would they?

Let's take a look at the very next paragraph from the interview segment you posted:

In layman’s terms, whites are responsible for the pathetic state of affairs, to such a degree that even a half-black presidential candidate is seen with optimism around the country and the world. Have no doubt in your mind that by having a white mother, he’s should not be considered black and that his apparent success, as mentioned by my conspirator Holocausto, would not have been achieved had both his parents been Kenyan immigrants.

If genetics aren't a part of it, why does Pogrom instantly rule out the possibility of success of someone born to two African immigrants?
#63
Because there is more to humans then genetics?

For starters.

I think you're just having a knee jerk reaction to that last sentence. Lets be frank, when was the last time a fresh off the boat Kenyan immigrant held a position in congress?

Here's a hint, has nothing do with the fact that "oh my god he's black"

Same concept.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
Last edited by VampireGoldfish at Jan 15, 2010,
#64
He's not arguing about a fresh-off-the-boat Kenyan immigrant, he's arguing about the son of Kenyan immigrants that was born and raised in America. Why would he not be able to succeed?

Is it genetics? If they believe that, they're racist, no questions asked.

Is it some innate character flaw not present in whites? If they believe that, they're racist.

Is it because blacks and whites are simply incompatible together? That's a tougher nut to crack, but if they believe it, they're still racist. You have to take into account several economic, social, and historical factors that come into play. Most people don't know the whole thing, but they're at least smart enough to realize that it isn't some BS cultural incompatibility at play. White nationalists (and, by extension, most likely the guys in Arghoslent) choose to completely ignore these factors and come up with some pseudo-scientific explanation based on cultural incompatibility in an effort to justify their irrational beliefs. (In reality, once you prod these types enough, you find that most of their arguments eventually boil down to biological reductionism, essentially making them the same as the first type I posted above.)

Are you arguing that Arghoslent aren't racist? Because it's very much apparent that they are. The members themselves, however, have never been questioned to any significant depth about their beliefs; it would be a safe bet that their beliefs about race fall into one of the three categories above. They've never outright said it, but the dots aren't hard to connect.
#65
Let's see. Median IQ in Central, Southern and Eastern Europe, as well as in primarily white multi-racial societies like the US and the UK hovers right around 100. In Israel, Northern Europe and Northeast Asia, median IQ tends to be in the 105 range. In sub-Saharan Africa, median IQ's are more in the 75-85 range. Median black IQ in the United States hovers at the upper end of the sub-Saharan range.

Now, we can either be PC ****wits or we can just admit what anyone with a brain already knows: there's a substantial genetic component to intelligence, and it isn't evenly distributed across either the general population or among racial and ethnic groups. Why this should be surprising to anyone, I don't know, since it's precisely what we would expect to see given the nature of evolutionary pressures and mechanisms.

In any event, the problem with Arghoslent isn't 'racism' (which is, after all, nothing more than another boogeyman word with no real meaning - after all, most of history's successful people(s) have been 'racists'). The problems stem more from the variety of vulgar, moronic 'racism' that they espouse and the fact that they can't write their way out of the proverbial paper bag.
Last edited by Dylar at Jan 16, 2010,
#66
Quote by Dylar
Let's see. Median IQ in Central, Southern and Eastern Europe, as well as in primarily white multi-racial societies like the US and the UK hovers right around 100. In Israel, Northern Europe and Northeast Asia, median IQ tends to be in the 105 range. In sub-Saharan Africa, median IQ's are more in the 75-85 range. Median black IQ in the United States hovers at the upper end of the sub-Saharan range.

Now, we can either be PC ****wits or we can just admit what anyone with a brain already knows: there's a substantial genetic component to intelligence, and it isn't evenly distributed across either the general population or among racial and ethnic groups. Why this should be surprising to anyone, I don't know, since it's precisely what we would expect to see given the nature of evolutionary pressures and mechanisms.

lololol anus suxx lololol.
#67
Usain Bolt > Arghoslent
Quote by Ultraussie
I want to try that while playing the opening riff to "Tempting Time".

0-0-0-13-0-0-0-0-13 or something like that alalalala but It;s so heavy and off time and awesome and you could not f**k anyone to it.


Quote by Ingested
burzum IS nazi. well, varg is.
#68
Quote by Stranglehold
Usain Bolt > Arghoslent


Bingo, the "why" of which eludes both the skinhead types and liberals.
#69
Quote by VampireGoldfish
Never once was genetics mentioned.
Again, you're arguing against something that was never proposed, which everyone seems too when it comes to this subject.

If genetics were involved at all, which its obviously not, then they would not hold their obvious feeling of contempt for most of the worlds white people, would they?



"The Nubian Archer"

Born with genetic imperfections
The Nubian Archer unable to grasp
The shortcomings of his brood


"Flogging the Cargo"

Burying swords into emaciated ribs
Tired naked souls
Could no longer walk
Exotic filthy mongrel dogs
Fettered to failure
By a flawed genome

With laziness indelible and inherent
The pitch brutes lived
At the end of the whip
#70
Yes because we all know artist can't simply write lyrics that in no way pertain to their ideals. No they simply can't be writing historical fantastical or narrative lyrics.

Nope.
Never.
Impossible.

In fact last night I saw George Fisher cum blood.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#71
By the way I completely understand and acknowledge that Arghoslent is indeed "racist"

Look I understand half of you are so fantastically belligerent neonates who can't see beyond their gnarled ugly shit stained hand in front of their faces so just pretend I never said anything and you can get on with your horizons sheltered like every other Puritan American lifestyle.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
Last edited by VampireGoldfish at Jan 16, 2010,
#72
100% Of The World Is Racist

More At 11
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#73
You're dumb.
Quote by HorizonShadow
Just eat the headstock.

That'll make you look mad.
#74
I knew reviving this thread would be a mistake and a swarm of 17 year old keyboard commandos would swarm in and enlighten us on the thought processes and intent of the band's lyrics.

Dylar, every thread I've seen you post in so far has been you trying to inflame other users of the forum by spouting out your controversial all-knowing OPINIONS.

Strangle, what is this Usain Bolt you speak of. They have no MA page?
Matthew 5:5 - "Blessed are the meek: for they shall Beherit the earth."
#75
Usain Bolt is a Jamaican sprinter, currently the world record holder in both the 100 and 200 meter dashes.
#76
Haha ohh I thought he was referring to a band.
Matthew 5:5 - "Blessed are the meek: for they shall Beherit the earth."
#77
^


Excellent...this band are really growing on me! Gonna pick up Galloping... and the first 3 demos rerelease thing next week.
Quote by Ultraussie
I want to try that while playing the opening riff to "Tempting Time".

0-0-0-13-0-0-0-0-13 or something like that alalalala but It;s so heavy and off time and awesome and you could not f**k anyone to it.


Quote by Ingested
burzum IS nazi. well, varg is.
#78
Galloping and the latest one are amazing, i need to check the local metal shop to see if they've stocked up on anything else by them yet.
#79
Hornets of the Pogrom and Incorrigible Bigotry are easily my favorites. This band writes some of the most addictive riffs ever imho, ie Menacled Freightage.
Matthew 5:5 - "Blessed are the meek: for they shall Beherit the earth."