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mojorisin58
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hey ok i havent found any threads really dedicated to Mojo Risin' so i thought it would be good to make a thread dedicated to Jim and all the other poets in Rock and roll History, so heres a place to just talk about jim his poetry and others like dylan, young, so forth
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#3
Jim is the reason i started writing
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#4
Jim is awesoem and a great poet, i really like An American Prayer.

and Mojo, you should share some of your written stuff.
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#5
Jim is one of the greatest songwriters ever. Personally I think Bob Dylan is better. And for comic relief, Frank Zappa can not be overlooked.
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#6
Unreal Songwriter. Love his stuff....I don't have An American Prayer however, though I'm extremely interested in getting it soon.
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#7
I love The Doors. They are one of my all-time favorite bands. Jim was an amazing poet and song writter. He is one of the main reasons I started writting poetry and songs. He has had a huge influence on me. The stuff he writes is unreal. One of the best poet/song writters ever. I love him.
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#8
Honestly, i think Morrison is the most over-rated writer next to Gerard Way.

None of his stuff has ever really impressed me at all.

any suggestions to change my mind?
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#9
Personally I think that Morrison was just a drunken dolt. But I can't really argue with that fact that so many people like his work, I guess I just never got it. I guess what I didn't like about him was the fact that I thought he was a total spaced out idiot, yet he acted like he was this great poet, such a noble being. What a crock of sh*t. That of course is only my opinion.
I also hate Bob Dylan, but I do think he is a great lyricist. He is a terrible singer, but I have yet to hear better lyrics from anyone else in rock music. Got to love Zappa as well. I am watching out where the huskies go, believe me.
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Quote by ledhead73
Personally I think that Morrison was just a drunken dolt. But I can't really argue with that fact that so many people like his work, I guess I just never got it. I guess what I didn't like about him was the fact that I thought he was a total spaced out idiot, yet he acted like he was this great poet, such a noble being.



to that.
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#11
Honestly, i think Morrison is the most ove -writer next to Gerard Way.

Off topic,but MCR doesn't write there own songs.


EDIT:I can't quote right.
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#12
^who writes them?

i am not an enormous morrison lyrical fan (or ppl who share the root of his last name, i like morrissey more) but the doors are a very unique and excellent band.
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#13
The Doors are one of my favorite bands, and while I respect Morrison as a songwriter, I try not to let his lyrics overshadow the talent of the other band members. I do listen and try and understand what, if anything, Morrison is saying, but Morrison isn't the reason I like The Doors; I like them because of everyone from the band - Jim Morrison, Robby Krieger, John Densmore, and Ray Manzarek - and what they contribute to the music they make.

Also, to stay more on topic, while I do still believe Jim is a great songwriter, I do feel as though there are better, and they have been given their respect so far in this thread, such as Bob Dylan.
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Quote by TheHeartbreaker
The Doors are one of my favorite bands, and while I respect Morrison as a songwriter, I try not to let his lyrics overshadow the talent of the other band members. I do listen and try and understand what, if anything, Morrison is saying, but Morrison isn't the reason I like The Doors; I like them because of everyone from the band - Jim Morrison, Robby Krieger, John Densmore, and Ray Manzarek - and what they contribute to the music they make.

Also, to stay more on topic, while I do still believe Jim is a great songwriter, I do feel as though there are better, and they have been given their respect so far in this thread, such as Bob Dylan.


mojorisin58
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Personally i think Dylan is highly overrated, Zappa I think is a complete fool, and shouldn't even be put in the category as a poet, i think the reason some people dont enjoy jims writing is because they are too closed minded to understand the deeper meaning behind his words
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#16
Yeah. many people don't understand. In fact the majority doesn't.
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Yeah. many people don't understand. In fact the majority doesn't.
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^^^But when you do understand, you get the full meaning behind his lyrics and poems. I'm just glad I can understand them. But like you said a majority of the people can't understand them.
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Always be a good boy; don't ever play with guns."
But I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
When I hear that whistle blowin' I hang my head and cry." - Johhny Cash, Folsom Prison Blues
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#20
You'd be surprised how many people understand.
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#21
Have you ever read his book?
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Always be a good boy; don't ever play with guns."
But I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
When I hear that whistle blowin' I hang my head and cry." - Johhny Cash, Folsom Prison Blues
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#22
i've read the poems of "An American Prayer".
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#23
Did you like those?
"When I was just a baby, my mama told me, "Son,
Always be a good boy; don't ever play with guns."
But I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
When I hear that whistle blowin' I hang my head and cry." - Johhny Cash, Folsom Prison Blues
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#24
Hell ya, I especially like The Movies.
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#25
Right the f**k on man. One of my favorite, too.

What do you think about Dylan's stuff, man?
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Always be a good boy; don't ever play with guns."
But I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
When I hear that whistle blowin' I hang my head and cry." - Johhny Cash, Folsom Prison Blues
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#26
Dylan's not bad. I don't know enough of his stuff to say much but what I've heard I've liked. He would fall behind in my list of favourite musicians. He's not bad though
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#27
What did you think about him lyric wis, tho?
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Always be a good boy; don't ever play with guns."
But I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
When I hear that whistle blowin' I hang my head and cry." - Johhny Cash, Folsom Prison Blues
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#28
Well, ok, lets get this straight. I appriciate and respect The Doors for what they;ve done. Now that thats out of the way, I'll say this: Jim was alright.

Don't get me wrong, Jim Morrison had talent, no doubt. I just think he relied alot of "chemials" to help aid some of his creativity. And some of his stuff was just a little too out there for me sometimes. I'm sure a hardcore Doors fan can prove me wrong on the chemical thing, but I don't want to get into an arguement here, and I'm just stating my opinion.

As for Dylan and Young, those guys were a little more down to earth, and I appriciate thier work far more than Morrison's
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#29
Dylan lyric wise is ok. It seems insighted. Now to the post ahead of mine. Jim did not necissarily rely on drugs for his creative mind. He did do them an aweful lot and spent most of his time before forming the doors spaced out on acid and writing poetry. Although i can't think of anything at the moment to change your mind all I can say to your statement is. not really. When in begin to think again maybe I'll write why.
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^^That's what a lot of people say but for some odd reason The Door's stuff just speaks to me better then theirs. Jim's poems/lyrics just relate to me better for some weird reason.
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#31
I know what you mean. his Poetry is amazing(by poetry I mean Lyrics)
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Yes, they are.
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#33
I personally think that Neil Young is in the same tier as Dylan and Morrison, placing ahead of Morrison and about the same as Dylan. Also, Neil is such a down to earth person, and as my friend who is related to him has stated, spending time with him, he's just an ordinary shy person who just happens to have exceptional musical talent.
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Quote by mojorisin58
hey ok i havent found any threads really dedicated to Mojo Risin' so i thought it would be good to make a thread dedicated to Jim and all the other poets in Rock and roll History, so heres a place to just talk about jim his poetry and others like dylan, young, so forth


In my opinion, I think Morrison is a bit overrated. I can't find anything that compares to Bob Dylan's poetry and lyrical mastery in any Doors songs. To me he was just a really drunk celebrity that died early. I hate seeing shirts that say 'American Poet'. I don't understand how he gets more attention than Bob Dylan. Not alot of people have heard much Dylan in my school and it frusterates me because Dylan has really important things to say and they transcend through the generations which is amazing.
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#35
I agree that Dylan is better, but Morrison is my second favorite when it comes to lyrics. My favorite lyrics are The Severed Garden. I don't understand why new bands can't write like this, most lyrics for new songs are so weak.
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#36
That's true. There are some bands out there that have some decent lyrics. The Vines and Stone Sour, IMO, have some decent lyrics. But they are nowhere as near as good as Morrison's and Dylan's.

I have another question. The other day my buddy and I were talking and he was trying to make a point that Kurt Cobain's lyrics were as good, if not better then guys like Morrison and Dylan. Now I'm a big Nirvana fan and I told, no that they weren't, even though some of his stuff was pretty good. Do you guys think is stuff was anywhere compariable to the greats like these guys?
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But I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
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#37
alright i think it was a bad idea for me to even bring up morrison and dylan in the same thread because of the fact that they are both such different styles, jim is more out there and tends to step over the bounds of reality, bob is more everyday situtations put into poetry and music, now if your going to say you havent seen any good jim stuff then you obviously have only listened to his music he is also a poet and has out two or three poetry books that is what you should read
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#38
That was a good explaination between Dylan and Morrison.
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#39
The doors were a great band, better than great but I don?t see Morrison as a poet, its nonsensical drug induced rambling from what I can hear not that there is anything wrong with that, but it was the doors that were great not just Morrison
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#40
most people tend to like dylan and young more than Morrison cause they're more related to things everyone can understand. Morrison did more 'higher things' and some people can't understand them, it seems.
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