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#81
Quote by The Casualty
Anyway, has anyone heard Dio, Halford, and Malmsteen's cover of "Mr. Crowley"?

I thought Dio was brilliant, and sung the song better than Ozzy IMO. Though Malsteen's wanking disappointed me as he tried to add his own touch to Rhoades' solo.

No, I've heard Cradle Of Filth's and Moonspell's cover of Mr Crowley. Cradle Of Filth's wasn't too good I thought, but Moonspell's was awesome, and was a lot better than the original.

But isn't this meant to be the Black Sabbath thread? :p

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EDIT 2: Wait, here it is: It has a : at the END aswell as the start. Sneaky...
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#82
'Bout time this thread got resurected here, it doesn't feel right talking about Sabbath in the Classic Rock forum.

Sooo...
Whats everyones opinions on the Heaven and Hell (Dio, Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler, Vinnie Appice) tour/album next year?
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#83
I'm looking forward to it. Of course, I'm a big fan of the material Dio has done with Sabbath

My favourite Sabbath albums are Dehumanizer, Master of Reality, and Tyr. If you look past the fact that Ozzy wasn't on any of the albums in the 80's and 90's, you'll find some real gems.
#85
Quote by chylde_of_fire

Sooo...
Whats everyones opinions on the Heaven and Hell (Dio, Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler, Vinnie Appice) tour/album next year?


My opinion is this...I wish the real Black Sabbath would record a new album already.
#86
my favorite is probably Master of Reality. it just seems to be the most together album. like the first two built up to it, and then they dropped off after it.
#88
My opinion is this...I wish the real Black Sabbath would record a new album already.


Seriously, don't even get me started on how stupid what you just said is.
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#89
I like Master of Reality alot, although Volume 4 is very good as well. I also like hte Dio era albums. It just seems that the production values are much better on Mob Rules then on the first 3 Sabbath albums. IN that sense it is hard to compare since Dio era stuff likely had the advantage of better technology / recording equipment as compated to Paranoid or MOR.

What will Heaven and Hell be like? I am not sure what to expect. I believe that listening to Iommi's work with Glen Hughes on his fuse project could provide some insight on that. I have not heard much of fuse ( the album title if I remember correctly) but it has gotten some reviews from others from what I have read.

I figure big crunchy riffs will be involved but wonder how much that will be expanded to incorporate more melodic and or harmony accompanyment. I say this thinking about how metal and rock have changed in the past few years and stretch out in more ereas with bands like, Opeth,Nightwish, and Lacuna Coil. Will Iommi and Dio's work show influenes of this more musically expansive form of hard rock / metal? Just thinking out loud.
#90
Black Sabbath are the shit, im sure there tour with dio will be sick as hell, ronnie james dio is still puttin on good shows, i saw him about a year and half ago, maybe 2, and he was great live, and we all know Tony is well, nothing short of god, as is geezer butler and the rest of the band.
#91
For those of you in North America, Motorhead and Down are apparently opening for Heaven and Hell.
/is jealous
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#92
Wheels Of Confusion is one helluva song, anybody else love the extended jam session they have at the end with Iommi soloing over that eerie riff that plays in the background?

I have my hopes up for this Heaven & Hell tour, everything I have read seems to indicate that Dio's voice has held up better than most of his metal legend contemporaries. Everybody loves Bill Ward, but I wouldnt discount Vinny Appice's contributions to the world of metal, he was the drummer on many of Dio's classic solo albums.

Speaking of which, I hope they find the time to maybe throw in a few classic Rainbow or Dio songs like "Man On The Silver Mountain", "Holy Diver", "The Last In Line". I've heard a cover of "Smoke On The Water" they played back in the day on the Mob Rules tour and it totally ****in slayed. I know its wishful thinking, but I'd love to see Tony's take on some of those riffs.

Personally I can't wait to see what Dio brings to songs like "War Pigs", "Paranoid", "Symptom Of The Universe", etc, although im really hoping they play a few of their drug anthems like "Snowblind', "Sweet Leaf", "Hand Of Doom", "Fairies Wear Boots" to name a few. To hear Ronnie James sing about the wonders of marijuana and cocaine would really put the concert over the top imo.

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#93
Just got the first Sabbath LP, it's damn good. A bit too Zeppelin-y for my liking (irony, yes?), but good nevertheless. The title track is the most evil song I've ever heard by far, and Wicked World is great.
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#94
Which song do people prefere: Sign of the Southern cross or War Pigs?

I know they are quite different but i love them both and i would be intrested to hear other peoples opinions
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#95
What do you guys think of the way Sabbath is coming along nowadays? I, being a Sabbath freak, am very disappointed. I think Ronnie James Dio was a phenominal singer but imo Sabbath is better off with Ozzy. I know Ozzy is working on his solo project and he, or his wife by chance, is being weird about the whole thing by not wanting to do another tour. Although, I can see reasons why he wouldn't, because of his health and other complications, be able to do a tour. So far, Ozzy and Bill Ward have left and been replaced by Dio and his drummer. Idk, I'd definetly pay to see the new guys but I'm just really disappointed Ozzy and Bill won't be there.
#96
I am more disappointed that Bill will not be invovled more than Ozzy. While Ozzy has obvious health issues, Bill has a lot more and less publicized issues as his bouts with alcoholism created or aggrivated mental health issues. I quess at this point in his life touring will be too stressful and cause unwanted problems.

Ozzy; he should just retire. The undercover cd was garbage, his voice sounds pretty bad now, based on watching him in the Ozzy show in mtv he is in no shape for a real tour. The album he is doing now will be scrutinized and if it sucks he is definately done, expept sharon wants to get as much cash out of that cow as possible.
#98
Quote by LedZeppelin
Just got the first Sabbath LP, it's damn good. A bit too Zeppelin-y for my liking (irony, yes?), but good nevertheless. The title track is the most evil song I've ever heard by far, and Wicked World is great.


S/T is a fantastic album imo and lol at the irony of it being too Zeppelin-y for you. Even though, I personally don't see how it is.
#99
I could see how the first Sabbath album is too Zeppie for some; they were both very blues oriented bands in their beginnings and incorporated distortion / hard driven guitars to beef up the agressoin in what they were doing. Even the second Sabbath album Paranoid had Planet Caravan and Fairies Wear Boots, which have a definate blues feel is you ask me, which is part of why they are such awesome tunes. The intro for FWB has alot of feel to it. These bands also slowly moved away from the blues with Zep becoming more of a classic rock band and Sabbath forging on and refining metal. That is kinda funny; using the words refined and metal in the same sentence.
#100
Quote by LedZeppelin
Just got the first Sabbath LP, it's damn good. A bit too Zeppelin-y for my liking (irony, yes?), but good nevertheless.

I can see what you're saying, I think it's due to the bluesy "The Wizard," and "Warning" in which Tony's playing sounds very Page-like.
#101
Ozzy Osbourne is the world's most overrated singer.

Dio don't sound like an opera singer. You can't sound more evil than Dio

Ozzy sounds like a 12 year old boy who can't sing. But the songs are too good even for him to ruin.
#103
Quote by slisken
Listen to the song Black Sabbath on Live Evil

Dio is evil



Listen to the original instead.
Ozzy>>>>>>>>>>Dio
#104
I found a first pressing vinyl of Mob Rules in a record shop yesterday, only £10. I am most pleased.
Quote by Guitarmike123
Listen to the original instead.
Ozzy>>>>>>>>>>Dio

Or you could get your head out of your arse and realise Dio is just as good as 70's Ozzy.
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#105
Mob Rules absolutely kicks major butt. I love that album to death. Love turn up the night, voodoo, and falling off the edge of the world for riffs and love the vocals on over and over. Brilliant stuff. Enjoy!!!
#107
Quote by chylde_of_fire
Or you could get your head out of your arse and realise Dio is just as good as 70's Ozzy.



I have issues with Dio's voice, I've never liked him. But it's all personal preferance I guess.
#108
Fair enough. I was under the impression you were one of those 'Z0mG dio suxor ozy rulz' type people.
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#109
Oog. I don't like Dio much at all. I never really thought he fit in very well with Sabbath, although he is a very good singer.
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#110
Quote by slisken
Ozzy Osbourne is the world's most overrated singer.

Dio don't sound like an opera singer. You can't sound more evil than Dio

Ozzy sounds like a 12 year old boy who can't sing. But the songs are too good even for him to ruin.




I'm not a fan of Dio's voice. It's surprising he even made it into Sabbath. From what I've heard of his work before Sabbath it was almost straight blues rock.
#111
Quote by Leonheart
From what I've heard of his work before Sabbath it was almost straight blues rock.

Elf maybe, but bloody RAINBOW? The band that pretty much influenced every early power metal band? I think not.

I think that Dio suited Sabbath just as well as Ozzy did.
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#112
My god, likeminded people. I think Ozzy is pretty overrated. He just sounds very flat all the time. He ruins most of those awesome riffs with his uber crappy singing. Dio just has so much more tone in his voice, he is the best Sabbath singer in my book.

Rainbow, blues Rock? Listen to Stargazer from Rising. Epic as f*ck.
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#113
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My god, likeminded people. I think Ozzy is pretty overrated. He just sounds very flat all the time. He ruins most of those awesome riffs with his uber crappy singing. Dio just has so much more tone in his voice, he is the best Sabbath singer in my book.

Rainbow, blues Rock? Listen to Stargazer from Rising. Epic as f*ck.



I think that I can relate more to Ozzy's singing, maybe because he's not the best of singers and that feels better with Sabbaths type of music. Dio sounds to professional in my oppinion, nothing I can relate to.
#114
Quote by Guitarmike123
I think that I can relate more to Ozzy's singing, maybe because he's not the best of singers and that feels better with Sabbaths type of music. Dio sounds to professional in my oppinion, nothing I can relate to.


I suppose I get that a little. But Dio sounding too professional? I never really thought of him as too professional, I just thought he was immense (in voice not height).
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#115
Quote by monkey of doom
I suppose I get that a little. But Dio sounding too professional? I never really thought of him as too professional, I just thought he was immense (in voice not height).


It may sound strange but some things sound TO good, I've always thought that Black Sabbaths sound was a little ruff and messy, just as Ozzy's voice. So in that case Dio sounds to professionals. But then again, that's just mine oppinion.
#116
Ozzy vs Dio is starting to annoy me.

The first three albums with Tony Martin own and are underated. Discuss.
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#117
Quote by chylde_of_fire
Ozzy vs Dio is starting to annoy me.

The first three albums with Tony Martin own and are underated. Discuss.


Never heard them, any special song you could reccomend?
#118
Anno Mundi, The Shining.
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#119
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Anno Mundi, The Shining.


I have a p2p program and I don't get any results for either...:\.
#120
In that case try any thing from the Eternal Idol, Headless Cross and Tyr albums.
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