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SomeEvilDude
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Now, obviously blues is one of the most (or at least I certainly find it to be) under-rated of all the genres, but I'm curious as to who you guys think are the most under-rated blues players? Don't have to be guitarists, but who do you guys think?
Side note: I know this is the 'Blues & Jazz Forum', but try and keep it blues.

For me, I'd have to say:
Snowy White - Saw him live last year, he's incredible. Voice isn't exactly great, but his guitar skills are brilliant.

R.L. Burnside - I picked up one of his albums yesterday. My gosh, this man is so unnappreciated. He is absolutely amazing, yet nobody seems to know or talk about him much. Definetly reccomended for any blues fan.
SuburbanCowboy
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I know I mention him all the time, but Billy F. Gibbons!! The man has got soul to spare.

And also Leslie West (his pure blues albums are great), Peter Green, and every other white bluesman who has never been taken seriously because some blues elitists only accept black guys as true bluesmen.

edit: But now that I think about it, ALL blues guitarists are underrated. Because even the best of the genre never recieve the widespread recognition that they deserve.
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stan webb from chicken shack. i used to see him years ago playing pubs in the midlands, sadly he never quite made the bigtime despite being a brilliant electric blues guitar player. i saw him a couple of years ago and he has still got it, despite some eccentric behaviour at times eg including his version of the beatles 'she loves you' in the middle of an otherwise superb set.

have a listen to the cd 'stan 'the man' live' to see what i mean.

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I know I mention him all the time, but Billy F. Gibbons!! The man has got soul to spare.

How is he underrated? He's practically a god and anyone who disagrees is an idiot. Very few people disagree.

I'd say the most underrated is Willie Dixon. He's one of the best songwriters ever, he wrote songs for highly rated bluesmen like Muddy Waters and Howlin' Wolf. I know that Jeff Beck covered at least one of his songs and he was the first person to sue Jimmy Page for plagerism. He sued Jimmy more than once too.
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chris rea and rory gallagher.

enough said..
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I'd agree with Rea, but not with Rory. Rory is quite known.

But when talking underrated blues, you cant leave out Tinsley Ellis. The man has serious soul, choppage to the max, and a great voice. He's been around for awhile, and yet not many know of him.

And I'd have to say guys like Kenny Wayne Shepherd and Chris Duarte also get the underrated bit. People tend to just look at them as being Stevie Ray wanabees, which maybe to some degree they are, but you cant say they dont have serious chops. I've never heard anyone else get tone such as them, specially Kenny Wayne. You know?

And cant leave out John Mayer either. People always diss him because of the pop stuff or other various reasons, but the man knows what he's doing. He knows theory, he uses fucking insane chords in his tunes, and the man sure can play. People just dont give him enough credit either.
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I was watching the tribute to the Strat on HDnet and John Mayer ran through Red House, in-frickin-credible.
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SomeEvilDude
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Having seen a couple of the posts, I'd have to definately agree with Chris Rea and Willie Dixon. Both amazing blues players, and - moreso in Dixon's case - fantastic songwriters. Just a shame that bass players never seem to get much recognition...

I certainly wouldn't say John Mayer is under-rated. From what I've heard - which is albeit not much - he's not particularly great.
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#12
Mississippi John Hurt transcends the skills of any modern blues guitarist. I have become very attached to Barbecue Bob's raggin blues.
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Agreed. And what soul that man had.
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TNfootballfan62
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John Lee Hooker. He's very well known and respected among us bluesmen, but you dont hear his name mentioned on the forums a whole lot.
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I'd say Pinetop Perkins
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I have to completly agree with WyldeGibsonPlyr, Tinsley has to got to be one of the most underated blues guitarist who has it all. I already suggested him for the list of Blues and Jazz Artists I don't know if it has been taken though.
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J.J. Cale!
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Robert Pete Williams is often overlooked. He has some very intersting rhythms and chord structures.
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Id have to say Rory Gallagher becuase he does not get the fame the Stevie Ray and Clapton did even though I see Rory as one of the best Electric and even Acoustic Blues Guitarists of all time.

John Lee Hooker might not be the fastest or the flashiest but he plays the Blues and hes is damn good at it.

And also ive been listening to a lot of Melvin Taylor, hes pretty awesome and dont hear much about him.

And as far as John Mayer goes, I personally think he is amazing and even though he is popular I still think that the Blues community hasnt fully accepted him yet. Even though people like Clapton, B.B., and Buddy Guy all do.

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JL Hooker IS FAMOUS !!!

Now that they're discussed, are they still "underrated" ??
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I don't see how anybody could possibly say John Mayer when he has two threads about on the first page, one which 124 posts. That's not underrated, that's vastly overrated.

Where is Blind Blake, Lightnin Hopkins, Bukka White, Skip James, Blind Willie Mctell...? Anything on an acoustic guitar gets zero mention on this board unless played by SRV or Eric Clapton.
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#23
^^^That's not completely true. I love my delta blues. It is a shame it isnt talked about more around here.
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right on!

very underrated especially considering some of the classic songs he has written.

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I don't see how anybody could possibly say John Mayer when he has two threads about on the first page, one which 124 posts. That's not underrated, that's vastly overrated.

Where is Blind Blake, Lightnin Hopkins, Bukka White, Skip James, Blind Willie Mctell...? Anything on an acoustic guitar gets zero mention on this board unless played by SRV or Eric Clapton.


Because the delta blues can get a bit too much in high doses. I love a bit of it every now and then, but it does get really heavy after a while.
That said, Robert Johnon, Son Wolf and Lightnin' Hopkins are amazing.
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#26
Michael Bloomfield. Far better then Clapton, Page or Hendrix in my opinion.
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Quote by SomeEvilDude
Because the delta blues can get a bit too much in high doses. I love a bit of it every now and then, but it does get really heavy after a while.
That said, Robert Johnon, Son Wolf and Lightnin' Hopkins are amazing.


I fail to see how this makes sense. 1) Not all of the people could be listed as "delta" blues although I think classifying blues like delta, texas, etc. would get you laughed at by a real blues player. I think a general term such as "acoustic blues" works when discussing the aforementioned. 2) Because you tire of it easily means it shouldn't be discussed at all? I doubt that. I think the real reason why they're hardly ever mentioned is a lot of people have heard of the early acoustic blues just never listen to them. I think it's a shame for such die hard blues fans to ignore such a large and diverse part of their music.

By the way; Bloomfield...great, not better than Hendrix though.
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^^^I agree with practically everything said there. (I just dont think calling it delta or acoustic blues either way is a very big deal. )

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Speak of the devil, I forgot about the very man on my tee shirt currently. Mr. Albert Cummings. The man has serious soul.
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Now if only my internet was fast enough to stream that stuff.
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I fail to see how this makes sense. 1) Not all of the people could be listed as "delta" blues although I think classifying blues like delta, texas, etc. would get you laughed at by a real blues player. I think a general term such as "acoustic blues" works when discussing the aforementioned. 2) Because you tire of it easily means it shouldn't be discussed at all? I doubt that. I think the real reason why they're hardly ever mentioned is a lot of people have heard of the early acoustic blues just never listen to them. I think it's a shame for such die hard blues fans to ignore such a large and diverse part of their music.

By the way; Bloomfield...great, not better than Hendrix though.


Hm, I see your point. But what I was getting at (solely the delta blues stuff, fine laugh at me) probably doesn't get discussed much because people don't listen to it particularly much.
I'll admit now, it is kind of stupid to class the blues into various sub-genres, but it happens to everything, so it's just become a habit I guess.
And, sorry for the misunderstanding about acoustic/delta stuff. I don't know why acoustic blues doesn't get discussed much, there's some real gems there. I guess it's just more people today are so used to full bands and electric, so acoustic blues (and folk and classical) go pretty much unnoticed and not listened to.
Sorry the mix-up there though. I agree that it's a damn shame acoustic blues doesn't get listened to much.
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James Taylor could play an extremely badass blues guitar. (and good vocals too) Just listen to "Steamroller" on his Best Of album.

But his skill with an electric was over-shadowed by his song-writing ability on an acoustic. Not to say his song-writing should be pushed out of the spotlight.

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Kenny Wayne Sheperd!?
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Chris Duarte? He's pretty badass, don't ya think? Oh I agree with ya Falcatarius James Taylor's steamroller kicks it.
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Hey guys, first post. I'm not really into solid blues, but do know a little about guitar and guitar music. I noticed somebody said KWS as well, and don't understand why anyone would ever consider him underrated when he's one of the only "blues" (more like blues rock to "pop blues" (I made the genre up...but because of players like him and John Mayer it will become a genre lol)) players, besides the EXTREMELY overrated John Mayer (he truly is a terribly arrogant untalented SOB), that's recognized by a lot of the general public today. I also don't think Mr. Sheppard is that great, although I do enjoy his Voodoo Chile cover.

What about Scott Henderson? I know a lot of his stuff is jazzy blues or bluesy jazz...but he has a little bit of straight up blues and it's pretty awesome! He's semi-known but, given his talent, not know even close to enough! Or what about Derek Trucks? Do you guys like him? He's an amazing slide blues player as well and I can't find his CDs anywhere in stores! What about Michael Landau? I'm not a huge fan of his...but the man has a bit of talent and not too many of his CDs are in stores either. I'm just trying to get to know the thoughts and feelings of this community a little better. Thanks!
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Scott Henderson is awesome, he can cover jazz/fusion/blues blues rock so fecking well! very underated
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Has anyone everheard roy buchannon's(think thats his name) rendition of hey joe, he gets my vote
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Has anyone everheard roy buchannon's(think thats his name) rendition of hey joe, he gets my vote


Roy Buchanan ... yeah his cover of Hey Joe is awesome.

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