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punk_guitarist
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#1
me and my friend were talking the other day how our band's sound would be, and he's telling me that "technical" punk music isn't possible, and i was wondering..well, is it? can't there be ya know..van halen-type leads and solos in punk? or is it just like my friend said, and not possible at all?
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punk_guitarist
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#3
i guess you're right, but other than that, what other punk bands are there?
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GuitarGod610
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Isn't technical punk an oxymoron? When punk music started, it was played as a rebellion AGASINT the technical music of the day. Technical punk wouldn't make any sense.
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I challenge you to a duel Punk_Guitarist.

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#7
unless it was a rebellion of all the ****ty rock music that is being played now, or somehting like that.
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punk_guitarist
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what is this "punk off" wizardry you speak of?
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We have JohnnyNemo ask us questions, the first person to 20 wins.
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punk_guitarist
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....oh..uhh...ah screw it, you can keep the avatar..it's not like it's the avatar from god's balls or something...ill cahnge mine to something else then
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Quote by GuitarGod610
Isn't technical punk an oxymoron? When punk music started, it was played as a rebellion AGASINT the technical music of the day. Technical punk wouldn't make any sense.


Yeah it kinda goes against the genre.

Pentatonic leads = punk

32nd note tapping trills = not at all punk (and not good either)
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#12
well...there is some technical punk. of course...technical FOR punK, if u know what i mean
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whyvern
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Annihilation Time, Municpal Waste, The Oblivians, The Catholic Boys/Teenage Rejects.

Let's see all you classic rock worshiping boring ass mother****ers play those riffs!
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opivy21
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#15
Suicidal Tendencies had some tapped solos on their first record.
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#16
Black Flag's Slip it In had a lot of good soloing and some more tehnical riffs. People go on and on about Jimmy Page being a great guitarist, but he's no Greg Ginn.
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#17
Quote by pinheadslts75
Black Flag's Slip it In had a lot of good soloing and some more tehnical riffs. People go on and on about Jimmy Page being a great guitarist, but he's no Greg Ginn.


I wish I was familiar with Harmolodics and all that jazz.

That reminds me another SST band the Meat Puppets had some nice solos and such but nothing shred like.

Pentatonic stuff. Like Backwater. (Although I suppose they weren't really punk by that point but still.)
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LoudnSnotty138
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Quote by whyvern
Annihilation Time, Municpal Waste, The Oblivians, The Catholic Boys/Teenage Rejects.

Let's see all you classic rock worshiping boring ass mother****ers play those riffs!


I was just about to say annihilation time, jimmy and shaun make hardrock mixed with hardcore work so well.
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#19
go listen to some black flag. preferably there later stuff. also, there's some bad brains songs with some kick-ass guitar solos. and, early-to-mid husker du had some pretty crazy raw stuff, with some good solos. id check out those bands for sure
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#20
the Adolsescents had all kinds of solos and lead guitar riffs, if that counts
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#21
Listen to a part of "The Mullet Burden" by the Dillinger Escape Plan. It's not punk music, but it can give you an idea of technical guitar parts to play over a punk drum beat. Keep in mind this is only in one part of the song, you'll have to listen to it, but when you hear it you'll know.
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minutemen anyone?
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#23
Dead Kennedys anyone?

I dont really like the Minutemen, TBH, Zack.
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You can't sense his sarcasm. Thats funny.
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Dead Kennedys anyone?

I dont really like the Minutemen, TBH, Zack.


tis cool young one... they are an acquired taste.
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tis cool young one... they are an acquired taste.


Very true. being a bassist myself mike watt drew me in then i got hooked because the guitar was very good as well.
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#28
Quote by LoudnSnotty138
Very true. being a bassist myself mike watt drew me in then i got hooked because the guitar was very good as well.


I said it in one of the other threads tonight but I'll say it again; D Boon's guitar sound is one of my favorites. It's just so delightfully twangy and trebley, I think he turned the bass and mid off completely.
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#29
i hate the idea that i lose "punk points" because i bothered to take the time to learn to play my instruments. Punk is not limited to simplicity, simplicity is just a common characteristic. Its not "showing off" to have put the time and effort into playing full chords or actually thinking and putting musical knowledge into chord progressions and song structures.

I learnt my scales, i play drums and piano at an average level and i play guitar pretty damn well if i dont say so myself. I also play in a punk band. Yes you can have "technical" punk
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#30
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minutemen anyone?

picked my brain exactly. how much more thinking can you possibly do in punk? its great stuff, jazz to the max, but better. the improvisation is just all over the place, and the chords are so dissonant it should be illegal, you only see that shit in bebop.
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The Minutemen were the only band that could fit 4 different riffs and a solo into a minute-long song and that is why they rule. (Besides all being very good at their instruments and also recording so many songs in so little time)

I wish D. was still alive.
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#32
If there is a lot of technical guitar in a punk band (more than the odd solo) I guess it would stop being punk in a way. I don't mean attitude wise, i just mean it would literally be classified as a different genre because the music would be different. Not that this is a bad thing or that I wouldn't like it, play what you wanna play. Depends on how you classify punk; if a band has punk attitude or if a band plays punk music.
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#33
I submit Denis Tek from Radio Birdman and Andy McCoy from Hanoi Rocks as two guitarists whose work is very technical.

However, since I've heard the term "technical" most often applied to the band Rush, I submit the Subhumans, particularly their last album, Worlds Apart, as the Rush of Punk.
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#35
black flag and the misfits listen to what have to say you will learn something!
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#36
Quote by GuitarGod610
Isn't technical punk an oxymoron? When punk music started, it was played as a rebellion AGASINT the technical music of the day. Technical punk wouldn't make any sense.


No, it was started as a rebellion against all the bands that just ripped each other off. It was meant to have evryone still in the genre, but being different from each other. Just another peice of evidence that lee harding is not in fact the "prince of punk", because he goes against everything punk was ever for.
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#37
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black flag and the misfits listen to what have to say you will learn something!


That made no sense.....and if you were trying to say the misfits are technical youll get laughed at.
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#38
My lead guitarist is heavly influenced by Van Halen.
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#39
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Television.

hmm...i wonder how that one slipped my mind...
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#40
Punk is about using what you've got. If you've got guitar skill, use it.

Ross Friedman did.

That said, it is not a good idea to go off at a tangent when playing technically.

Unless you're playing mock rock, that is.