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#41
i guess...strung out, they have some sweet riffs. i dont know how "punk" they are, but the records i have are good...they are fast.
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#42
Quote by GuitarGod610
Isn't technical punk an oxymoron? When punk music started, it was played as a rebellion AGASINT the technical music of the day. Technical punk wouldn't make any sense.


punkers are against everything so... :P

But, just play what u like. If u play it technical then it (maybe) isn't punk, but who cares?
Afraid u're group can't go in this forum?

If u think like punkers do...then it's punk for me...otherwise it's just good/bad music :P

GrTz
#44
Quote by banaantje
punkers are against everything so... :P

But, just play what u like. If u play it technical then it (maybe) isn't punk, but who cares?
Afraid u're group can't go in this forum?

If u think like punkers do...then it's punk for me...otherwise it's just good/bad music :P

GrTz



Were you dropped on your head as a child?


Anyway, simplicity is welcomed and accepted in punk but it's entirely possible for it to be technical. (i.e. Toy Dolls, Black Flag, No Cash)
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#46
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Were you dropped on your head as a child?


Anyway, simplicity is welcomed and accepted in punk but it's entirely possible for it to be technical. (i.e. Toy Dolls, Black Flag, No Cash)


yes! So what?
#47
Quote by CowsWithGuns

Anyway, simplicity is welcomed and accepted in punk but it's entirely possible for it to be technical. (i.e. Toy Dolls, Black Flag, No Cash)


Black Flag is very simple... at least their bass parts are i guess greg is king of the sloppy solos so that makes them pretty technical.
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#48
Real punk doesn't exist anymore. I'm talking about where it all started with the Ramones, The Clash, and The Sex Pistols. The punk ideals at that time were about being different from everyone else and not giving a **** if people liked the music. The music wasn't for the audience anyway; it was for the artist. It wasn't about making money and being successful.

Now all the punk that exists is just termed punk, but it's more rock than anything. True punk is no longer alive.
#49
Punk exists, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

And I have to agree with some that the Toy Dolls are a GREAT example of technical punk.
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#50
how about Gang of Four? not really straight up punk but tasty nonetheless. it's almost like...caveman improvisational jazz with mohawks and tweed blazers. it's simplicity at it's most complex. yeah...
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#51
Quote by GuitarGod610
Real punk doesn't exist anymore. I'm talking about where it all started with the Ramones, The Clash, and The Sex Pistols. The punk ideals at that time were about being different from everyone else and not giving a **** if people liked the music. The music wasn't for the audience anyway; it was for the artist. It wasn't about making money and being successful.

Now all the punk that exists is just termed punk, but it's more rock than anything. True punk is no longer alive.


shut the F*ck up. you have no idea what your talking about.
#52
Quote by GuitarGod610
Real punk doesn't exist anymore. I'm talking about where it all started with the Ramones, The Clash, and The Sex Pistols. The punk ideals at that time were about being different from everyone else and not giving a **** if people liked the music. The music wasn't for the audience anyway; it was for the artist. It wasn't about making money and being successful.

Now all the punk that exists is just termed punk, but it's more rock than anything. True punk is no longer alive.



It all started WELL before The Ramones, The Clash adn The Sex Pistols Mr.Punk Expert. I'm not even going to comment on the following sentance that followed other than this: You really have no idea what you're talking about do you?
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#53
Quote by GuitarGod610
Real punk doesn't exist anymore. I'm talking about where it all started with the Ramones, The Clash, and The Sex Pistols. The punk ideals at that time were about being different from everyone else and not giving a **** if people liked the music. The music wasn't for the audience anyway; it was for the artist. It wasn't about making money and being successful.

Now all the punk that exists is just termed punk, but it's more rock than anything. True punk is no longer alive.


Listen to Blanks '77 and tell me it's not punk.
#55
^ You don't know what you're talking about.


EDIT: You came here and made an ignorant statement and your idea of backing it up is ,"But the internet says so!",?


EDIT 2: Not only that but the links you provided give the exact opposite of what you said.
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#56
Quote by GuitarGod610
Don't want to take my word for it? Look it up on Wikipedia-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_music
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_ideology

-then tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.


"There is still a thriving punk scene in North America, Japan and Europe. The widespread availability of the Internet and file sharing programs enables bands who would otherwise not be heard outside of their local scene to garner larger followings, and is in keeping with the DIY ethic championed by some earlier punk bands. Many punk bands retain the political streak of their forebears. The political ascendency of George W. Bush and Tony Blair have inspired both songs and political action, such as the Rock Against Bush movement, that can be compared to the original rage at Reagan and Thatcher."

You just disproved yourself. Nice job.
#57
Wikipedia is also submitted by normal people...not professionals on a topic...

I've seen a bunch of incorrect stuff on there.
#59
Quote by GuitarGod610
Real punk doesn't exist anymore. I'm talking about where it all started with the Ramones, The Clash, and The Sex Pistols. The punk ideals at that time were about being different from everyone else and not giving a **** if people liked the music. The music wasn't for the audience anyway; it was for the artist. It wasn't about making money and being successful.

Now all the punk that exists is just termed punk, but it's more rock than anything. True punk is no longer alive.



There still is underground (I guess that's what u talkin bout) punk, in the Netherlands (I don't know this from internet no...), in belgium a little, and in England too I think.

And loudnsnotty, will ya just STFU, u feel though because u know the word f*ck? sheez how old are u?

And it's true that the music wasn't ment for making money and being succesfull...But that punk still excist...Lot of "punk" groups now are actually no punk, it doesn't mean I don't like there music tho

GrTz
#60
suicidal tendencies.
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#61
Quote by banaantje
There still is underground (I guess that's what u talkin bout) punk, in the Netherlands (I don't know this from internet no...), in belgium a little, and in England too I think.

And loudnsnotty, will ya just STFU, u feel though because u know the word f*ck? sheez how old are u?

And it's true that the music wasn't ment for making money and being succesfull...But that punk still excist...Lot of "punk" groups now are actually no punk, it doesn't mean I don't like there music tho

GrTz


actually i rarely swear and i dont think im tough. I just get pissed off when stupid kids like that think punk is dead and its all commercial. when you can go to any city and find bands youve never heard of that are good and make no money at all.
#62
Wikipedia is a wonderful personal refrence tool. Don't put it on bibliographies or as proof of an argument for shit's sake...
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#63
Wikipedia is a wonderful personal refrence tool. Don't put it on bibliographies or as proof of an argument for shit's sake...


Why not? Chances are if the article is long enough all of the details have been checked over and over again. Have a little faith in humanity man. Who's to say an encyclopedia can't be wrong. I mean the news lies to us everyday and we're allowed to use that in a research paper.
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#64
^I'd say that 8-9/10 times, it's correct. However, since it uses anonymous, typically un-expert sources, it's just logically unsound. I use wiki for everything, but I don't cite it.

The regular news is pretty bad for research papers, too. Unless of course it's a persuasive paper...
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#65
Quote by MrLucky77713
^I'd say that 8-9/10 times, it's correct. However, since it uses anonymous, typically un-expert sources, it's just logically unsound. I use wiki for everything, but I don't cite it.

The regular news is pretty bad for research papers, too. Unless of course it's a persuasive paper...



and if you're writing a persuasive paper then use Wiki as well. It's more accurate than FOX news.

I cite it because I'm an asshole and I like making my teachers look for **** on it... maybe they'll type in a wrong address and learn something.
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#66
As the Sun Sets, Between The Buried And Me, Creation is Crucifixion, Red Chord and Chapter 13.

ooh technical PUNK.

nevermind.
#67
Quote by LoudnSnotty138
actually i rarely swear and i dont think im tough. I just get pissed off when stupid kids like that think punk is dead and its all commercial. when you can go to any city and find bands youve never heard of that are good and make no money at all.


Ok, understand that...but don't use those ***** **** words then. Just tell him that u are pissed off because blablabla...Those "stupid kids" don't know better

grtz
#68
Quote by whyvern
and if you're writing a persuasive paper then use Wiki as well. It's more accurate than FOX news.

I cite it because I'm an asshole and I like making my teachers look for **** on it... maybe they'll type in a wrong address and learn something.


Don't bring FOX news into it. That bollocks isn't even news. Our teachers won't allow us to cite anything that doesn't specifically have an expert opinion. And by teachers, I mean simply our debate/logic professor. So staff writers for any news service are out, unless we show a quoted expert opinion. I generally agree with that policy, since any retard can blog out some news (FOX and CNN make billions doing it). Expert opinions may be wrong, but at least the information is coming from someone who's an authority on the topic.

EDIT: However, this professor also instructs us to do all preliminary research on Wiki and maybe follow the links they provide.
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#69
Quote by MrLucky77713
Don't bring FOX news into it. That bollocks isn't even news. Our teachers won't allow us to cite anything that doesn't specifically have an expert opinion. And by teachers, I mean simply our debate/logic professor. So staff writers for any news service are out, unless we show a quoted expert opinion. I generally agree with that policy, since any retard can blog out some news (FOX and CNN make billions doing it). Expert opinions may be wrong, but at least the information is coming from someone who's an authority on the topic.

EDIT: However, this professor also instructs us to do all preliminary research on Wiki and maybe follow the links they provide.



Where I live, FOX news in the word of god himself.
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#71
Quote by p8ntballerz182
black flag and the misfits listen to what have to say you will learn something!



Aaahahh, Misfits play veery technical.
#72
haha that kid is just another one of those fakes. whos never heard a band but claims to love them. or else he wouldnt of said that.
#75
here is my idea on punk. if its so dead, why are we still playing it, creating it, and living it? sure some bands may have "sold out" but SOME bands arent ALL bands. dont judge the majority on the minority.
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#76
Quote by whyvern
Where I live, FOX news in the word of god himself.


Whyv, you live in the south. Of course FOX is the word of god.
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#78
I see a lot of people who say Black Flag as technical punk.

Naw. Black Flag is sloppy as hell.

Now technical punk: Dead Kennedys and Rich Kids on LSD
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#79
yeah dead kennedys have good guitar parts.
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#80
flogging molly, dropkick murphys, rise agsint dont SUCK at guitar...(not really all too sure what the hell genre to plop them in though after siren song of the counter culture's afi reminiscent whining...and yes i realize that they are better than i am, but thats ok haha, revolutions pre minute was a little slice of heaven)