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#1
I'm planning on going to this show at the end of the month (In Flames, Nevermore, Throwdown, Evergrey), and I'm obviously looking forward to it, but I just found out that Steve Smyth of Nevermore is going to have to miss all the U.S. shows due to kidney problems. From what I hear, the replacement is going to be Chris Broderick of Jag Panzer. Considering the different styles of the two guitarists, how do you guys think Broderick will do as a stand in? Obviously Nevermore is still going to put on a great show, but I'm just hoping it won't be patch-work. Any thoughts?
#2
Well, considering the fact that Chris Broderick is absolutely insane and a highly skilled guitarist, I am willing to bet that he will have no trouble adjusting to Nevermore's music.
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Quote by Bilzzard_of_Ozz
Well, considering the fact that Chris Broderick is absolutely insane and a highly skilled guitarist, I am willing to bet that he will have no trouble adjusting to Nevermore's music.



I think you missed my point...I know Broderick is rediculous, and I'm not saying that he can't adjust to Nevermore's music. I've been to shows that use stand in guitarists, and sometimes it just doesn't mesh as well as it could, even if the stand-in is more talented. Has Broderick ever played a show with Nevermore? If he has, then nevermind (no pun). If he hasn't, then it might show is all I'm saying.
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I think you missed my point...I know Broderick is rediculous, and I'm not saying that he can't adjust to Nevermore's music. I've been to shows that use stand in guitarists, and sometimes it just doesn't mesh as well as it could, even if the stand-in is more talented. Has Broderick ever played a show with Nevermore? If he has, then nevermind (no pun). If he hasn't, then it might show is all I'm saying.


Honestly, I think that they wouldn't employ anyone they aren't 100% sure will work. They obviously have full confidence in him, so I'm just saying that we have no reason not to.
#6
i love nevermore, afaik they just got done touring with megadeth and dream theater
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Might as well label Slayer and At The Gates as "metalcore" while you're at it...
#7
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Honestly, I think that they wouldn't employ anyone they aren't 100% sure will work. They obviously have full confidence in him, so I'm just saying that we have no reason not to.



Good point...they are label mates, so maybe they've played together previously. Regardless, the show will be outstanding.
#8
I don't listen to Nevermore but they sounded fine live.
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#10
^Evergrey pwn j00
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#12
Prog Metal, I recommend you looking into their 'Recreation Day' album. My favourite by them. Quality stuff.
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Prog Metal, I recommend you looking into their 'Recreation Day' album. My favourite by them. Quality stuff.


Ok then.
#14
Evergray's singer is gigundous. I was standing next to him waiting in line to buy an In Flames shirt. He has to be at least 6'5 or so.
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#15
I wouldn't go. I think Nevermore are the only worthwhile band there, ah but if its Smyth being replaced and not Loomis. Hmmm.

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He has to be at least 6'5 or so.


How small are you? That's how I tall I am too.
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#16
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Evergray's singer is gigundous. I was standing next to him waiting in line to buy an In Flames shirt. He has to be at least 6'5 or so.
Pfft, i'd be looking down at him...

EDIT: With the 3 members in my band so far, we average about 6'8". I'm the shortest at 6'7". Bassist is 6'10".

Completely irrelevant, but I thought i'd share that with you anyway.
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#17
What?!

Smythe is being replaced? What the Hell is going on?!

Edit: Ah..nevermind..lol..*sigh of relief*..I thought that he left and was being replaced..lmao..next time I'll read the first post..

Man that did make my asshole pucker though..lmao.
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I beat you by 2 inches. ZOMGLOL11!!!
#19
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What?!

Smythe is being replaced? What the Hell is going on?!


Not forever, he's got some kidney problems or something along those lines.

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I still pwn j00.

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Pfft, i'd be looking down at him...

EDIT: With the 3 members in my band so far, we average about 6'8". I'm the shortest at 6'7". Bassist is 6'10".

Completely irrelevant, but I thought i'd share that with you anyway.



So what? Your band instead of having a joint every now and then, take horse growth hormones, huh?
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#20
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Not forever, he's got some kidney problems or something along those lines.


I still pwn j00.


Lol..I just edited my post..lol..thanks though.

HA Bitchtits! I got you both beat! I'm 6'8! No ****ing joke.
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#21
My Bassist > j00

6'10". Last time he checked was a year ago too.

EDIT: MY DAD IS STRONGER THAN URS LOL!!
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#22
Damn. lol. He's a beast. I think I've stopped growing though.

Edit: NUH UH NUH UH!!! My Dad pwns your dad anyday!
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#23
Haha, the Metalheads are big and gangly.

OMFG

I got some Spy Glasses from Macdonalds, pretty high class. They've got a red light on them so I can spy successfully.
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#24
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Haha, the Metalheads are big and gangly.

OMFG

I got some Spy Glasses from Macdonalds, pretty high class. They've got a red light on them so I can spy successfully.


Damn straight..thats how we roll, G.

lmaorofl.

What or who are you gonna spy on? And what the **** are the for? Promoting a movie or what?
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#25
^I think Ronald Macdonald is a Peeping Tom, to be honest.

I mean come on, look at him, he's just screams pervert.
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#26
^..lmao...sigged*
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#27
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I wouldn't go. I think Nevermore are the only worthwhile band there, ah but if its Smyth being replaced and not Loomis. Hmmm.


How small are you? That's how I tall I am too.


I would be 5'6.5. I'm only 16, but seeing as my parents are both 5'2, I don't think I have much growing to do.
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So what? Your band instead of having a joint every now and then, take horse growth hormones, huh?
I thought that stuff tasted odd....
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#29
why would in flames be given that chance to tour with these bands?
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#30
Well if this is true I'm going to be driving my ass to Eugene Oregon and having my face rocked off by Loomis AND Chris Broderick..

**** thats going to be insane.

And all you ****ers are tall. I'm like 5'8"

At least my hair is long.
#31
Lol. My hair hangs down to my middle back..lol...now what!
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#32
****ing tall bastards. I'm only like 5'10. I probably couldn't kick your asses, but I bet I could get more pussy.


I wouldn't go to that sausage fest. Only worth while band to see on that bill, like everyone else posted, would be Nevermore.
Black/Death.
#33
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Lol. My hair hangs down to my middle back..lol...now what!


So is mine.

But its blonde.

And straight.



*cough*

Well yeah, nevermore are the only band to see.. Its not as bad as sitting through some nu metal band and chimaria to see them though.

I'd imagine In Flames isnt total **** now. At least you might get to hear some golden oldies from them.
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suported by two ****ty hardcore bands. YAY!!! i think evergrey is,.
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#36
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I would be 5'6.5. I'm only 16, but seeing as my parents are both 5'2, I don't think I have much growing to do.


I'm 'only' 17. I'm taller then both my 'parental units'. (lol, morbid death reference, lol, katy..)

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Damn straight..thats how we roll, G.

lmaorofl.

What or who are you gonna spy on? And what the **** are the for? Promoting a movie or what?


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I posted about this here a bit

I'm going to the show Saturday. Have never heard any of the bands but In Flames, but apparently they are pretty good from what I hear.

-SD


SD + Metal = Greety very proud. =]
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#37
Quote by SilentDeftone
I posted about this here a bit

I'm going to the show Saturday. Have never heard any of the bands but In Flames, but apparently they are pretty good from what I hear.

-SD




Chris Broderick + Jeff Loomis = sure to be asskickery. Its gonna be good regardless of what I have to sit through. I must inform my buddies.
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Chris Broderick + Jeff Loomis = sure to be asskickery. Its gonna be good regardless of what I have to sit through. I must inform my buddies.


Without Steve Smyth? I don't know, man.

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#39
I duno if that was sarcasm or not, greety (lol) but I'd say.. Steve was good when I saw them last month. The show was more than I expected it to be, and I had a pretty high standard set for Nevermore beforehand.. They totally blew me away.

I know Broderick is an amazing guitarist (I dabble in a bit of Jag Panzer and I share his taste in pickups and amplification.. ) and I admire his work, I think that he would be more than competent enough for kicking ass in Nevermore. I'd hate to see Steve go (I think he meshes well with the band) but I guess its just temp for now so we'll see how that goes.

Either way it will kick ass, either way I'd go to see them (I've been wanting to see Chris Broderick play anyway.)

Looks like I'll get to see ENGLs at every show I goto now it seems. Rutan used a Powerball. The dude from Chimara used a powerball (bah!) and now I'll see Broderick slugging away with one.. Hmmmmmm. Awesome.
#40

For Immediate Release: April 30th, 2006

A MESSAGE FROM STEVE:

Hi Everyone. Just wanted to clue everyone in as to my situation, and why you will see me in very limited fashion onstage with Nevermore in the coming months.

Around mid October 2005, I was in a London hospital, undergoing arthroscopic surgery for my right knee, which turned out had been badly sprained during our last headlining show in Athens, Greece two days earlier.

During my stay at the hospital, numerous blood tests were done, one of which revealed that the level of protein in my body, better known in medical terms as creatinine, was raised well beyond a normal level, 4.9. Normal is 1-2. I was advised by doctors there to see my MD as soon as I got back home, which was following our tour with Opeth in the US, around late November 2005.

After several blood tests, urine tests, and ultimately, X-rays, ultrasounds, and CT scans, doctors came to a few conclusions about my condition. It was revealed that I was born with one kidney, and because of a congenital birth defect, I had an obstruction on my ureter, which was causing my solitary kidney to ?eat? itself over the years, to a point where it is now 85% destroyed. Now, as of late April 2006, I am facing ?complete renal failure? within 6 months. This is called end stage renal failure, or CKD, of which I am on the edge of Stage 4-5. I have had ?stent placement? surgery, around 3 months ago, and that seemed to help things for a bit, but things haven?t really changed either.

I have been advised by my doctors that I could continue to tour, but that I might not make it through the next one, which would be the In Flames tour. I have had both a doctor and a registered nurse/transplant coordinator tell me that I could go ahead with touring, but this ?failure? could occur at any time, and through the process of weekly blood tests, I would be aware well in advance of when to ?come off the road?.

To be fair to myself and out of concern for my lovely fiancée, family, my closest friends, and out of respect and fairness to the band, our crew, and especially the fans of Nevermore, I decided it is best not to pursue this tour. However, I will perform at the European Festivals in June, Gods of Metal (Italy), Rock Hard (Germany), Rott Fest (Ireland), and Sweden Rock Festival, after which time doctors will have determined the next step in treatment for me.

The suggested treatment is a kidney transplant, for which I have so far comprised a list of a few willing donors, and hope to be able to find more along the way. The wait time for a deceased donor is 3-5 years (in the event that my list of donors does not work out), with the worst case scenario being that I will end up on dialysis, waiting that entire time to receive a kidney.

In the meantime, I intend to carry on developing my internet teaching business, pursuing a teaching career at a top notch music school (those that know me know I have been a private teacher for the last 20 years in my ?off time?), and to finish my instrumental project album, The EssenEss Project, with Steve Hoffman and Atma Anur, which is already about 75% tracked. For more info on both, please don?t hesitate to visit www.stevesmyth.com or send me an email. I?ll gladly add you to my e-mailing list!

The band has hired on Chris Broderick to fill in for my absence during this time, and I have complete faith that Chris will go out there and kick ass and do a great job!

To really be completely honest about how I feel physically, and mentally, I have to admit, I feel fine! I have had to quit drinking, smoking, and change my diet, all pretty big changes, and all not without their challenges! But I have met each one along the way, head-on, and succeeded, the same way I have approached, and intend to beat, this!

I do feel tired every now and again, but it feels no different than the way I have always felt. Maybe because I have had this for my entire life and not known it, and am therefore used to it. That?s the funny thing I suppose about CKD. You don?t really know you have it, and as long as doctors detect it early, they can do something about it. As for how I feel mentally, I am upset about not being able to tour, which is something I still love to do, and something I think a lot of musicians out there take for granted.

I love travelling, playing for people, meeting new faces, and seeing old familiar ones as well, seeing new places, and revisiting old ones! I am going to miss that a lot, and definitely cherish what I have experienced in my ?metal? life so far, and can only hope I will be able to do more in the future.

I also don?t take for granted the time I have spent in various bands I have been in, including my time in Vicious Rumors, Testament, Dragonlord, and Nevermore. Many memories, a lot of great times, working with a ton of awesome musicians and incredible music industry people along the way, recording some killer metal albums, and a lot of great gigs/tours I?ll never forget, getting to meet/share stages with my heroes, working with great musical instrument companies, and working with awesome guitar magazines, the list goes on and on!

I will say this for now: I will fight this, and I will be back!

If anyone out there has some information to share, or just wants to give a shout, please don?t hesitate to e-mail me at steve@stevesmyth.com. I?d love to hear from you.

- Steve Smyth


I was semi-serious. I don't think it would technically be the full quid without him. I just felt like adding a funny picture.
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