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The Master Plan
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#1
Im buying a new guitar in about 2 months (Need time to save up) and I was wondering what type of Fender to buy, I'm looking for that Robben Ford, Jonny Lang, Stevie Ray Vaughan type of tone. I'm either gonna get a mexi made Tele or a 50'S Reissue strat. If I buy the reissue I'm gonna use the custom harness on my sig below for that.

Thx for reading this and hopefully replying..
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#2
it will be hard to get the SRV tone cause he plays his strat through a leslie. thats speaker used for an organ or key board. thats what makes his tone sound that cool. john lennon also recorded his voice through a lesliein the song tommarrow never knows. ( thats a really cool song check that out) actually i think that was one of the first times they used a leslie for expierimenting. lennon said he wanted to sound like he was shouting from tatop a mountain. and the beatles sound engineer geohh emerick thought up the idea to record it through the leslie
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#3
1st off, theres a huge difference in cost between a mexican tele and a reissue of any kind. Personally, I would reccommend a strat. They have a whammy bar (I dont use it, but for blues you very well might), they have a body contour, and theyre far more versatile. You might be into blues but if you get a country gig or a rock gig or even a jazz gig a strat could cut it, I doubt a tele could. The most important thing, though is comfort. You have to try both out and see which neck you like better, if the lack of a body contour on the tele bothers you.
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DON'T BUY A TELECASTER FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!! (all caps)
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#5
Get a strat, put Texas Specials pickups on it, use a string gauge of about 13 -58, plus downtune a half step, then have that going into a Tubescreamer (or possibly 2!) then put that through a couple of Marshalls or fenders and a great big dumble amp simultaneously , and youll be in the right ballpark for SRV's sound.

Seriously though, i love strats so i would get one.

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^^Texas Special pick-ups arent available in the US as far as i know, anyways you can buy either one and just put heavy strings on it and youll be in the ballpark for SRV's tone, I have a telecaster with 12s and it sounds a lot like SRV, but you should just try out both and see which one you like better
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Strats Are good for blues but teles are good for slide blues,folk-blues,country ... that sort of thang
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Quote by ledhed68
^^Texas Special pick-ups arent available in the US as far as i know, anyways you can buy either one and just put heavy strings on it and youll be in the ballpark for SRV's tone, I have a telecaster with 12s and it sounds a lot like SRV, but you should just try out both and see which one you like better


Texas specials are available in the UK, check that out:
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=12230
Maybe you could get them by mailorder.

But anyway, Teles are better for country & chicken pickin' an all that stuff. I would say strats are better for blues, going by personal experience.

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#9
I love both teles and strats. It all depends on the type of sound you want.

Strat:
It's a stratocaster. Chances are, you know what it sounds like. Strats can get just about any tone you want. Even the extreme ones, given the right rig. I love them too, but don't discount the--

Tele:
Tele's do one sound really, really, really well. Twang. I keep hearing over and over and over again about how they're just country guitars, but that's not true at all. To get an idea of how good a tele can sound, listen to "Runaround" by Van Halen, off of For Unlawful Carnel Knowledge to get an idea of just how amazing this guitar is.

Both are great, but nobody can tell you what to get. You've gotta find your own dang tone.
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#10
I've got a Strat, and I love it.

I'm thinking about getting a Tele as my next guitar, though (I'm a Fender guy), because I don't feel like highering my action on my Strat to play slide (cause you basically can't if you don't **** around with it).
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Ill probably buy the Strat because its leaned more towards Blues Rock. Also I'll get a custom Lindy Fralin Pickups and harness for it in Sept. The price of the 50's reissue is $420 new in Fiesta Red and Maple Fretboard.
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#12
forget Fender, the ultimate blues guitar is the Epi Airscreamer
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Well right now I have a Strat, but i really would like a telecaster. I would go for a tele.
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#14
Quote by twocenttip
DON'T BUY A TELECASTER FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!! (all caps)


Don't make a post like that without at least backing it up with why he shouldnt....

I love my strat to death, and its perfect for blues, but dont forget that tele exists. They do blues very well. I'd say that probably the nicest guitar i've ever played was an American Telecaster Deluxe.
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i have a tele and i love it. i put .11 guage strings on it and its so amazing.
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I put .013's on my current guitar if that makes a difference at all, and right now I cant afford a Les Paul.
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I have both an American Strat and an American Tele, and I prefer the Tele, it just plays so much better, but you can't get a Strat tone from the Tele. You can however get a Tele tone from the strat with a special selector switch that will alow you to select the neck and bridge at the same time to give you more twang. My Tele seems to handle heavier rock better and the Strat is good for Blues rock. I think my next Fender is going to be a Tele thinline.
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Why would you want to by a Fender? To look like everyone else?
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#19
Teles can do blues just as well as a Strat, just have a listen to Albert Collins.

I own one of each, and really can't decide between the two.
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Don't buy a telecaster, unless your afraid of pointy things........
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#21
And what's wrong with a tele exactly?

I suspect you've never played a good telecaster...
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#22
Quote by ufossuck
Why would you want to by a Fender? To look like everyone else?


B/c these days they are the standard for blues guitars, and for good reason.
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#23
Quote by GKJ
Don't buy a telecaster, unless your afraid of pointy things........

Good logic


I own an american tele and it handles all sorts of blues very well, and if i put it on the neck pickup and open up the tone knob all the way i can get pretty close to a strat tone. It handles all the heavier stuff with ease as well. HOWEVER i don't think you'll be satisfied at all with a mexican tele so If i had your choice I'd pick the 50 strat reissue
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#24
originally posted by ~1954~
Texas specials are available in the UK, check that out:
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=12230
Maybe you could get them by mailorder.


I know theyre available in the UK, but im saying that they arent available in the US at a store as far as i know, what a shame, they deliver amazing sound
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#25
^^^You can get Texas Specials in the US. They are made in the US, so i dont see why you wouldnt be able to. I have some, and i live in the US.
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^my mistake, then if you get a strat then you should definately put some texas special pickups on it
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#27
strat (mainly cause i own one)

but a tele would be the guitar i'd get next if i were to get another one
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B/c these days they are the standard for blues guitars, and for good reason.

If there's a standard for blues guitars, it's the Gibson ES line. None of the real bluesmen played Fenders, only the blues-rock players do. John Lee Hooker, B.B. King and Freddie King all played ESs and most other electric blues(not blues-rock) was played on Gibsons.
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#29
Buddy Guy plays a strat.

As far as the Tele/Strat debate, I bought an American Strat about a month ago and I absolutely love it. For me it has the perfect feel, I love a high action and really heavy strings. Plus most of my favorite guitarists play Strats (Clapton, SRV, Buddy Guy, Hendrix). But you cant forget about how sweet Tele's are. Basically it all comes down to personal feel. Either way your getting a sweet guitar.

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#30
Quote by ledhed68
^^Texas Special pick-ups arent available in the US as far as i know, anyways you can buy either one and just put heavy strings on it and youll be in the ballpark for SRV's tone, I have a telecaster with 12s and it sounds a lot like SRV, but you should just try out both and see which one you like better


So they are called "Texas Specials" and they aren't available in the US, hmm interesting.
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Quote by ufossuck
If there's a standard for blues guitars, it's the Gibson ES line. None of the real bluesmen played Fenders, only the blues-rock players do. John Lee Hooker, B.B. King and Freddie King all played ESs and most other electric blues(not blues-rock) was played on Gibsons.


True, the ES line are classic blues guitars, but people like SRV, Buddy Guy, and Robert Cray have helped to make the stratocaster a standard blues guitar, too.

EDIT: And if the only thing you have against fender is that you would "look like everyone else" then the upsides (for instance, tone) heavily outweigh the downsides.

EDIT II: To VR2005, you can, in fact, get Texas Specials in the US.
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#32
I was S-O-O-O disappointed when i tried out a USA Stratocaster--the tone was dull as ditchwater and it would NOT stay in tune---i tried it through a Marshall hoping to get a great SRV/Hendrix sound but i realised id need a shedload of effects to sound like that--this experience seriously put me off strats.

I then tried a Japanese 62' reissue telecaster--which i might add was £100 less than the strat--and i was blown away---people always say the tele is limited but these are the type of people who expect to press a button or flick a switch and get the sound they want--You have to work for your sound people-The tele can do warm, slightly overdriven blues, it can do twangy country and western, it can do great rhythym parts and screaming lead lines--its not great for heavy metal, but id ont give a rats ass.

I ended up buying the tele and ive never looked back, i can go for weeks without having to retune it, i can do two-tone bends without fearing the strings will go out of tune and i can really express myself more on it===i find it much more responsive to dynamics--which is where i found the strat fell flat on its ass--if i dig in with the pick on the tele, it really hammer the thing, or just sroke it lightly, it astonsishes me with its tonal and dynamic variations.
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#33
i have an american standard strat that i brought back to the uk with me from the states, it's always been my number one (over a US tele and a gibbo les paul standard). unbeatable for action and tone, especially since i put texas special pups on it.

the texas specials are available from the fender website although i have since realised that thet are a lot cheaper on ebay. i have heard a lot of good things about lindy fralin pups and would check them out if i were looking to change again.

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#34
Quote by mullet0023
it will be hard to get the SRV tone cause he plays his strat through a leslie. thats speaker used for an organ or key board. thats what makes his tone sound that cool.

srv played trough a fender vibroverb.
Jimi Hendrix played trough the leslie
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#35
Quote by IrishBlues
Buddy Guy plays a strat.


Muddy Waters played a Tele.


Just because a certain artist plays a guitar doesn't make it better, Buddy Guy doesn't play a stock strat, of the same kind that the threadstarter wants to get.

I'd personally go with the Tele.
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#36
^ Yeah I agree I was just saying that there are Blues musicians that play strats. Buddy Guy's strat is awesome, it has that midrange boost like Clapton's does.

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#37
If you're good enough, any guitar is good for blues - Hound Dog Taylor played with gear on par with Jack White's set up and made much better use of it!

There are good strats and bad strats, especially if you're looking at 70's gear - I looked at about 5 different teles before I picked mine. For anyone that's interested it's a 1976 US Tele Custom, battered to bits (would've been 3 tone sunburst 30 years ago) but does the "ice man" sound perfectly.
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#38
Well I plan to have $500 some dollars by July, then I'm gonna go to my nearest SamAsh which is in San Antonio, like 5 hours away. I plan to be in there trying out every strat and tele I can afford (Gonna be a good day). I plan to equip it with some sort of custom harness on my B-day. My saying when buying guitars is like this "Guitar's are like women, you cant go off and marry the first beautifull one you see, because it might look good, but have a horrible tone/personality, you gotta try your options, Oh yea their both expensive."
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#39
Quote by ledhed68
^^Texas Special pick-ups arent available in the US as far as i know,

Yeah they are, you can buy them from MF.
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#40
Can someone guive me tips on what to look and hear for when shopping for a strat? Also things to try out when testing the playability.
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