#1
ok...here we go...just traded in 1200 bucks worth of guitar gear at my local guitar center. i need a new amp really bad. so here is a little of amps im looking into:

Marshall AVT150H w/ AVT Cab w/ Celestions
Marshall AVT50H w/ AVT Cab w/ Celestions

Which of these 2 are better? i played out the AVT150H and i really digged it...

Line 6 Spider II HD w/ Spider II Cab

im not sure about these...they sound great for home use and recording, but i dunno if they could get the job done live...

all the Crate amps seem like junk to me...

i havnt tried a Randall...are these any good...

1200 is my limit...so i have to get a decent half stack for the money...i need something capable of recording, home use, and live use...any suggestions?
Gear:
Gibson Flying V
Jackson RR3 w/ dual EMG 81's
Epiphone Acoustic-Electric
Digitech RP200A, Line 6 Uber Metal
Dunlop Crybaby, Ibanez TS-808
Guitar Research T64-RS Half Stack
#3
omgomgomgomg

give me your money!

i would LOVE a jazz chorus and/or a jcm800.
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#4
Randall amps are THE BEST. When I get your ammount of money, this is exactly what I'm getting:

http://www.randallamplifiers.com/products/amplifiers/mts/mtsheads.asp
Randall MTS head with any matching cab. The beauty of this head: You get power tubes and presets you can switch out. So basically you can have like 3 amps in one. Theres a preset for Dual Rectifier, preset for Marshall, and Fender clean. And a whole lot more. They're pretty accurate too. Go buy that. Save a bunch of money not buying a Mesa Boogie.
mmmmmmhmmm

That's exactly what I've been trying to say.

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#5
you've got the be kidding me...you have 1200 to spend...enough to get a jcm800 or basically any tube amp you want with a cab (used of course) and your looking at AVT series marshalls?

sigh..thats just depressing.
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Gear:

1996 Les Paul Classic w/ Alnico II's
Marshall Jubilee 2550
Avatar 2x12..V30 and G12H
Vox V847 Wah
Assorted pedals
#6
I'll tell you right now, Randall is by far the best hard rock and heavy metal amps. Perioid. They have a brand new line of amps out with a new type of "state", which is (in concept) a mix between tubes and solid states, called Valve Dynamic.

I myself own a relatively cheap Randall head, the old G2 series 200 watt Solid State, with an XL cab. The G2 is amazing for $300, and the XL cab is the exact same used by Dan Donnegan of Disturbed, (about $750.) I went all out and baught one of the best cabs they had. Another thing about the XL cab is that it has a DI built into it, (and if you dont know, a DI is a "Mic Eliminator" which you can do instead of micing the amp. It will send the signal straight to the PA/Mixer.) For recording with my band, I mic the cabinet and I also use the DI in another cable, and after some tweaking with the tone, it showed amazing results.

With your money, i'd reccomend buying either one of the G3 heads and a high-end cab, or what Hard Attack was saying, and buy one of the RM or MTS heads with a lower cab. Both of these heads have switchable tubes, in which you buy the head and then put in whatever pre-amps you want in. This allows for almost infinite amount of tone combinations between the preamps you choose from. The RM series is more of a standard head shape and has three preamp slots, where the MTS looks more like a rack setup and has four tube slots and 4 preamp slots. (For a better explanation, watch the video on the site here at http://www.randallamplifiers.com/products/amplifiers/mts/index.asp)

Another set of excellent Randall heads are the new V2 and T2 amps. Check those two out here at
http://www.randallamplifiers.com/products/amplifiers/xl/index.asp

http://www.randallamplifiers.com Just go and check out what they've got.

The downfall with Marshalls (in my opinion) is that because of their famous name, you have to spend a rediculous amount of money to get a great amp. As far as EQ is concerned, they have far too much high end for me.

The only thing I wouldn't recommend about Line 6 amps is that they are very digital. This means that they have a very "unnatural" sound as far as rock and metal guitar goes. But if you're a fan of this sort of sound, then power to yah.

But it really depends on what genres of music your interested in playing. Marshalls are usually made for blues/rock stuff, where Randall is made for hard rock and metal.

Some other amp companies worth checking out are Krank and Mesa Boogie.

I'm not positive these explanations are solid, so if you have any questions, you can email me at Hellxbound97@netscape.net .

Hope I could help.
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#7
NOT those amps. Do you really need a stack? Get a tube combo. Traynor makes 50 and 80 watts if you want to get way up there. Vox has the AC30 which is supposed to be heavenly. PLEASE dont buy those amps.

Vox isnt high gain though so prob not
Traynor is classic rock stuff
Peavey XXX is high gain and lots of watts if your into that
Peavey Classic 30 is really good for classic rock too
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#8
get a used Mesa Dual Rectifier.... WeRd
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#9
There is one word that harnesses everything that embodies true, pure, bonecrushing, shreiking power and excellence on every degree possible.

Randall
#10
Neither.

All the amps you listed blow harder than a hong kong hooker.

Tube combo>Solid stats half stack both in terms of loudness and tone.


Suggestions

used(like off ebay): MEsa Boogie Rectoverb, Peavey JSX comco, Peavey 5150 combo, Traynor BLue 50, PEavey XXX


NEw: Peavey XXX, Traynor Blue,Fender Hot Rod
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#11
Marshall JCM800 Combo, without a doubt. If you get that ACT I will smack you till your face turns purple. DO NOT waste that money on a MG quality amp unless you are going to play punk!

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#12
What part of this did you jackasses not read?

HE TRADED IN HIS GEAR. HE HAS STORE CREDIT. HE CAN ONLY BUY WHAT THE GUITAR CENTER HAS.

That means.. if they don't have a used (amplifier) he wont be able to buy it!

So you guys should try suggesting NEW gear that he could buy or ask him what the guitar center has for sale as far as used amps go.
#13
I've heard some good thigns about the ashdown fallen angel. You coudl look into those.
#14
An AVT sucks enough to pull your anus inside out. A decent 1200$ tube amp actually has the power to blow your anus back inwards again.
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#15
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An AVT sucks enough to pull your anus inside out. A decent 1200$ tube amp actually has the power to blow your anus back inwards again.


well put! lol

well, this is guitar center, the source of most people's goodness, most suggestions are still valid, except something like a discontinued jcm or something.
#16
Quote by boardsofcanada
well put! lol

well, this is guitar center, the source of most people's goodness, most suggestions are still valid, except something like a discontinued jcm or something.


Or getting X model amplifier used. Guitar centers only have the used gear they buy.. so you'd be **** outta luck trying to order in a used amp lol.
#17
Id say get something like a Marhsall DSL/TSL, Peavey XXX or Traynor.
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#18
thnx for all the help guys...the avt was pretty bitching although i dunno...it did sound a little bland...if i dont find something nice, i might just for the b52 tri mode rectifier or something...
Gear:
Gibson Flying V
Jackson RR3 w/ dual EMG 81's
Epiphone Acoustic-Electric
Digitech RP200A, Line 6 Uber Metal
Dunlop Crybaby, Ibanez TS-808
Guitar Research T64-RS Half Stack
#19
ebay is your friend....you can get more for your money from ebay if you put in your time to do some research and find the right amp and seller.
#20
Quote by KlRK HAMMETT
thnx for all the help guys...the avt was pretty bitching although i dunno...it did sound a little bland...if i dont find something nice, i might just for the b52 tri mode rectifier or something...


what i'd suggest you do is get the best amp you can for the store credit (tube of course)...then resell it on ebay and try to make up the 1200...then buy a used mesa boogie or jcm 800/900 off of ebay.

you only think that avt sounded good because you don't know any better...one day you will and you'll regret buying it. all 1000 people on here who spit on the mg/avt series name can't all be wrong.
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The best pickups for emo are no pickups at all...


Gear:

1996 Les Paul Classic w/ Alnico II's
Marshall Jubilee 2550
Avatar 2x12..V30 and G12H
Vox V847 Wah
Assorted pedals
#21
is that b52 tri mode rectifier any good?
Gear:
Gibson Flying V
Jackson RR3 w/ dual EMG 81's
Epiphone Acoustic-Electric
Digitech RP200A, Line 6 Uber Metal
Dunlop Crybaby, Ibanez TS-808
Guitar Research T64-RS Half Stack
#22
yeah it's alright

how about go into GC and tell us every single amp there and available...

:p - but seriously, i've got nothing to work with here
-Mike
#23
Quote by bonchie1
what i'd suggest you do is get the best amp you can for the store credit (tube of course)...then resell it on ebay and try to make up the 1200...then buy a used mesa boogie or jcm 800/900 off of ebay.

you only think that avt sounded good because you don't know any better...one day you will and you'll regret buying it. all 1000 people on here who spit on the mg/avt series name can't all be wrong.


Thats a ****ty idea. Unless he can get something for an astounding price (I doubt it) he'll have a hell of a time getting his money back through ebay with all the lowballers and non-payers they have.

Like HopePoisoned said, goto guitar center (or call them) and ask them about the used amps they have/other amps they stock.

Your best bet would be a peavey 5150II/6505+ combo imo.
#25
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Thats a ****ty idea. Unless he can get something for an astounding price (I doubt it) he'll have a hell of a time getting his money back through ebay with all the lowballers and non-payers they have.

Like HopePoisoned said, goto guitar center (or call them) and ask them about the used amps they have/other amps they stock.

Your best bet would be a peavey 5150II/6505+ combo imo.


have you ever used ebay? nonpayers are almost noexistent although there are some...and if they don't pay you don't ship...how hard is that. and noone can lowball you on a reserve auction or do like i do and just set your starting bid at your reserve so you don't pay the gay fees.

he could get a brand new rig from guitar center that he knows will hold value and he'll get it all back on ebay minus 100-200 bucks...but even still 1000 will get him a killer old school tube amp used somewhere.

but your suggestion of the 5150 is a good one. if he can't get an old school marshall all tube or mesa thats probably his next best bet. that things got a lot of tone variation.
Quote by deg0ey
The best pickups for emo are no pickups at all...


Gear:

1996 Les Paul Classic w/ Alnico II's
Marshall Jubilee 2550
Avatar 2x12..V30 and G12H
Vox V847 Wah
Assorted pedals
#26
Quote by KlRK HAMMETT
is that b52 tri mode rectifier any good?

ITs a great great great amp for the price. Its the poor mans Triple Rectifier but with a set fo new tubes it kicks ass
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