#1
Could someone explain this and tell me which one is better?
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#2
as far as I know:

series means you're only getting the "wet" signal. This means the effect in the loop affects the whole signal.

With parallel, you can mix the wet with the dry (uneffected) signal.
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#3
The reason I ask is because I was looking at a DSL50 and saw it only has a series loop. Does this mean I'll have to use a footswitch to turn the loop on and off? And exactly how will it affect my tone?
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The reason I ask is because I was looking at a DSL50 and saw it only has a series loop. (a) Does this mean I'll have to use a footswitch to turn the loop on and off? (b) And exactly how will it affect my tone?


(a) you'd have to do that anyway. that's nothing to do with whether it's series or parallel.

(b) i think the gist is, with parallel, you can get much more subtle effects tones. With serial, the effect is either on or off.
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(b) i think the gist is, with parallel, you can get much more subtle effects tones. With serial, the effect is either on or off.

Yeah, but with most effects you get a "mix" knob anyway so it's generally not that important unless you use a lot of vintage effects (in which case a parallel should be used/ is best.)

Personally I feel the only difference is:

Series loops allow you to boost/attenuate the signal more effectively. So if you like your volume pedal after your distortion go for series, or if you want a post pre-amp gain boost/EQ change. If you want to use delays/modulation only then parallel allows you slightly more flexibility and sounds more hi-fi.


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#6
I was planning on using mainly delays/modulations. Here's the pedals I was planning on putting in the loop:

Line 6 DL-4
Line 6 FM-4
Line 6 MM-4
Boss Flanger
Boss Phaser
Boss Chorus

Maybe more. But those are mainly what I was putting in the loop. So would I be better off using the loop or putting it straight through to the Pre?
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#7
You really need all the Boss pedals? as all 3 of those effects are in the Line 6 MM4 anyway

Definatley put the delay in the loop. The other things can go wherever you want them depending on the sound you want (do you distort the flanger or flange the distortion?)

the FM4 probably really needs some expirmentation to find out where it sounds best too
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#8
I think I flange the distortion, as all my modulation and delays are after my distortion in my signal path.
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#9
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Yeah, but with most effects you get a "mix" knob anyway so it's generally not that important unless you use a lot of vintage effects (in which case a parallel should be used/ is best.)

Personally I feel the only difference is:

Series loops allow you to boost/attenuate the signal more effectively. So if you like your volume pedal after your distortion go for series, or if you want a post pre-amp gain boost/EQ change. If you want to use delays/modulation only then parallel allows you slightly more flexibility and sounds more hi-fi.




Yeah.

i only use delay and chorus in the loop anyway, so that'd make sense.

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