#2
Mark Hoppus> everyone. he may be simple, but i'd like to see you look that damn cool while playing (AND SINGING!!)
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#3
sounds like a wager, my boy.

I don't know any hardcore music, nor do I know what would fall in hardcore.
#4
Are they any good!? You must be retarded. I'd like to know what you call hardcore, because some of the hardest lines are done by hardcore bassists. Take a look at Dillinger Escape Plan, Black Dahlia Murder, HORSE the Band, or my current favorite (they have amazing musicianship all around) Fordirelifesake.
#6
Then you'd be wrong. What do you think hardcore is? Also, how can you say anything about hardcore bassists playing the easiest lines ever when you're parading around your Blink 182 avatar and NOFX screen name? I think any line done by Liam Wilson beats out anything ever done by Mark or Mike.
#8
wow no thats my acount stuff a few months ago iv changed now
and i ddint say they where krAP I WAS ASKIN fool
#9
It depends on what you mean by hardcore. In the strictest sense (Black Flag and the like around '82) bass in hardcore was nothing special but fast tempo and pretty fluid - certainly more than the root notes you get in "hardcore" bands today.
#10
uhmmm so the hardcore bands with all the random hitting notes and playing as fast as possible while hitting them is much more musically talented thant any of fat mikes basslines huh? hmmm you must not listen to a lot of nofx because he plays hella fast and some pretty complicated basslines and sings at the same time, of course these hardcore bands can sing and play because.... its just random note hitting, but all just my opinion, just how your opinion is that these hardcore bands are better
#11
"Harcore" encompasses a very, very, wide spectrum, please be more specific.
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#13
just listen to the basslines, are they appealling to the senses? or do they make u cringe a bit?

if it sounds good, then they're by all means awesome, if it sounds like someone beating the **** out of a trashcan, then they're not so awesome.

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#16
Husker Du has some pretty sweet, simple basslines.
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#17
Look, I think I was a bit harsh earlier. Some of you need to understand modern hardcore a little bit more though. Bands like The Dillinger Escape Plan don't just hit randumb notes, all the songs are written out like that and played like that night after night at every show. It's a little hard to comprehend how they can follow the changes when it's not just verse/chorus/verse/chorus, but if you take some time you can figure it out. Also, Fat Mike is a joke. It's not difficult to do any of his, or Matt Freemans basslines. They in no way compare to the majority of hardcore bassists. Try looking at hardcore like this and maybe it will make a little more sense, hardcore is to punk and metal, what bebop was to jazz and swing. Now, do bebop players just hit random notes and play as fast as possible? No. If you break the songs down and look at the structure you'll be very surprised at how talented these guys are at composing and playing.
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The Black Dahlia Murder is melodic death metal they are not hardcore dumbass

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#19
^You know what? I think they're pretty goddamned hardcore. Also, I don't care at all what you think they are. Also, I can see a strong death metal influence, but I wouldn't call them death metal at all.
#21
Hardcore bassists usually have it pretty easy....usually. Some tend to show their skills a little more but most just play the root and have a nasty/punch-you-in-the-face tone...which I love. Black Dhalia Murder is more of a death/extreme metal band then a straight up hardcore band like Throwdown or Bury Your Dead. From Autumn To Ashes' and Fear Before the March Of Flames' bassist are pretty good IMO. Although neither are really straight-up hardcore bands.
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Are they any good!? You must be retarded. I'd like to know what you call hardcore, because some of the hardest lines are done by hardcore bassists. Take a look at Dillinger Escape Plan, Black Dahlia Murder, HORSE the Band, or my current favorite (they have amazing musicianship all around) Fordirelifesake.



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#23
^I already admitted that I overreacted. I took a little offense since I've been in a few hardcore bands and somehow felt that this whole thread was indirectly related to me.
#24
It always seems in hardcore bands that its always like ur in six bands because someones bassists alway get cought up in sick clymedia

Also I'm kinda in a hardcore band I dont really like hard core but the way i c it its all just another musical experience the more i get the better i get, besides its wicked ez just play root to sevenths
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the way i c it its all just another musical experience the more i get the better i get, besides its wicked ez just play root to sevenths


what does root to seventh meen ??
#26
^It means to play the root of the chord and the seventh tone of that notes major scale. For example if a guitarist was playing a G chord you would play a G note, and then an F.

Also pickngrin, it was exteremly difficult to follow anything you were saying. And I don't think most hardcore bassists use root seventh lines either. That might be more commonly found in jazz.
#28
Chuck Dukowski could lay some lines down.

But yes Hardcore has gotten much more technical now. My friend is a bassist for a Hardcore band and he has some tough shit to keep up with.
#29
Lol Bumper lets think about this for a sec the 2 almost essential components of a hardcore guitarists are: 1. Suicide notes, and 2. pinch harmonics. So what do think the best suicide note is O the Seventh and octave of the root ergo anytime ur guitarists does that particular sucide which will probably be most of the time because in suicide notes u want notes that will have the most intefernce you can just play a seventh with him to back him up. Just because its used a lot in jazz doesnt mean u cant apply it in hardcore just look at suicide notes, and thats what i meant by root to seventh, its ok i still <3 u.
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#30
I'm not sure what you mean by suicide notes. Are you talking about dimished chords? They're used alot in bebop and hardcore.....and sevenths work well with them too.....I've just never heard them called suicide notes.
#31
do any 2 people even have the same idea what hardcore/death/thrash/metal/jazz/flamenco/cyberxgothcorex is anymore? You could get an entire forum brought to its knees by starting a debate on this......
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#32
Yah bumper thats just what all my "hardcore" friends call them i jsut used the slang term
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#33
Alright, thanks for clearing that up. Now if I ever hear that at shows I won't look like a douche asking what it is.