#1
whats louder a 350 watt solid state or a 120 watt tube amp?
#2
120 watt tube will make the whole world go deaf

EDIT: why do u want such a loud amp anyway?
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#4
Both are overkill for you I'd say.

Go tube for sure though.
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#5
i turned up me 120 watt tube amp (6505) to 6 and my metal head drummer told me to turn down.
#6
You know the amp is too loud when it actually pounds the bass drum louder than the drummer
#7
i may be in my late 30's but i still love it loud.
#10
i think standing to close to the cymbols do more ear damage than my amp.
#12
Try them both out at full volume right next to you, then see.

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#14
crate makes a 350 watter too but who plays crate, lol, sorry, isnt it true that SS 100 watts and tube 100 watt amps actually come out at the same volume but Tubes just sound louder, i think i heard that on the streets in the back alleys
#16
Quote by jnl
i think standing to close to the cymbols do more ear damage than my amp.


the amps affecting your spelling

but 120 tube is serious overkill
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#17
Unless mayube you just don't want poweramp breakup, then it's a good idea.

As for which is louder, there are a whole lot of things that affect volume more than wattage, so we can't say.
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#18
tube amps sound better when they are cranked up.
#19
Quote by jnl
tube amps sound better when they are cranked up.


Of course you may be playing a Fender (or a Hiwatt or some other such high-headroom amp) and want to have really really loud clean-cleans
#20
120 tube watts is gonna make everyone within a 30 mile radius of your amp go deaf
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#21
Difference is what will sound better...

A tube amp sounds better cranked up in volume where as a Solid State (well, in most cases where I've tried this) don't.
#23
350W solid state will techically be louder. Depending on the power amp configuration, a tube amp will be anywhere from 2 to 3 times as loud as an equally-powered solid state. Usually 2.5 times louder is a good general figure.

But in terms of usability, tone and headroom, the tube amp will win without a doubt. You turn the master volume on the ss amp past 6 or so, and the power section will start clipping like mad, and the tone will pretty much be useless and shìtty. The 120W amp, with master volume turned to about 6 will most likely be at its sweet spot in terms of tone, and will be able to go even louder and still keep a good tone.
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#24
I never knew one of the players in Sad But True came on these forums! My mates saw your band live and said they kicked ass!
And why the hell would you want a 350 watt SS?
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#25
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#26
^^^ you're talking bout the mode 4 right? 350 solid state watts.
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#27
^ same thing - more or less
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#28
a marsall thats not 100% tube power, just isnt a marshall
#29
Quote by punksucks23
the mode 4 is hybrid smart one

which mean it is a solid states with tubes in teh preamp as a marketing gimmick smart one
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#30
I think the craziest instance of insane wattage is Pages Marshall, which ran KT-88 power tubes and was rewired for ~200 watts...

And I don't think it had a master volume either!
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#31
Quote by That_Pink_Queen
I think the craziest instance of insane wattage is Pages Marshall, which ran KT-88 power tubes and was rewired for ~200 watts...

And I don't think it had a master volume either!

thats just wrong. .....but so right.
#32
Pretty sure the 350w SS would be louder.
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#33
Quote by That_Pink_Queen
I think the craziest instance of insane wattage is Pages Marshall, which ran KT-88 power tubes and was rewired for ~200 watts...

And I don't think it had a master volume either!


I always wondered just how he did that, i mean, its so cool!
#34
Quote by punksucks23
the mode 4 is hybrid smart one



yea smart arse, i own one of them.

it IS a hybrid amp but you try convincing people that it's putting out 350 tube watts.

or should that be 350 "hybrid" watts?

the tubes are in the preamp not the power output stage so yes it is 350 SS watts.
#36
Quote by That_Pink_Queen
I think the craziest instance of insane wattage is Pages Marshall, which ran KT-88 power tubes and was rewired for ~200 watts...

And I don't think it had a master volume either!


Go look at the bassist folk I'm pretty sure John Paul Jones was playing 400W+ tube bass amps in the time of Led Zeppelin

http://www.hiwatt.com/data/bheads.html (I think there was also a Hiwatt 200W guitar amp at some time)
http://www.ampeg.com/products.htm?catid=23
http://www.ampeg.com/products.htm?product=47&catid=10

edit: looking things up, JPJ used an Acoustic 360 head, which was a 450W solid state. Solid state bass amps can easily come to around 800W or so (though most often as 2x400W or such)
example: http://www.ashdownmusic.co.uk/bass/detail.asp?ID=7


those ampegs were still hugely used in the 70s
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#37
Wasnt there a blue voodoo(crate) that was like 600 watts and the cab had 16 12 inch speackers
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