#1
I would like to lower the action on my Jackson. I was wondering if anyone could give me a website that goes through a step by step instruction on how to lower the action (it is a floydrose bridge)

By the way, will lowering the actions cause any problems? such as fret buzz?? (im just paranoid!)
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#2
u could try lowering the bridge........two screws..........on each side of the tremelo............turning them = lower action. some guitars have adjustable nuts, im pretty sure jacksons dont but check it out.

as far as fret buzz: lower them untill you can hear buzz, them raise them up just a smidge and youll have perfect action ( if what you want is as low as the strings will go without buzzing, rattling, ect.ect.....)
#3
Might have to adjust your springs too, so that your bridge sits flush with the body. Only use half turns at a time though, it's a delicate process.
1992 Gibson Explorer (Seymour Duncan '59 neck, Custom Custom bridge)
Jackson King V Professional Std. (Seymour Duncan Invaders)
Mesa/Boogie Nomad 55
Mesa/Boogie 412 Recto. O/S Cabinet
Boss ME-50
MXR 10-Band EQ
#4
So what part of the bridge do i use the allen key to turn??? (please show using the picture)
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#6
Loosen to raise it and tighten to lower it, same principal as a screw. Raising or lowering it too much may affect your intonation, so check it if its way off.
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#7
Thanks for that danno, whats up with the left circle man?? lol

Thanks as well for that madpicking. But should i have any problems with it like fret buzz?? or warping or any of that sort?? (someone suggested i may need to level out the bridge again, but that isnt a problem now)
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#9
if you lower it too much you will get fret buzz and also you might need to recheck your intonation
#10
Meh, spamming is bad, i've already said that...
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#11
can anyone give me a site on how to fix intonation?? (dont even know what that is)
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#13
If you cant seem to understand from that site or dont have enough info, here's a home-made version i made, simplified enough so that everyone can understand.

Tuning Floyd Roses' intonation is really a bitch if you dont have any equipment. Its time consuming and really needs a lot of patient...A LOT. You can get a guitar tech guy to get it done but make sure he knows what he's doing.

This is the thing you should adjust on ur bridge. The little tiny screw below the strings.


This is a special intonation tool for Ibanez Edge tremolo system, sold at stewmac.com


These are the steps on how to properly adjust your intonation on floyd rose system.

Tuning
1) Loosen the locking nut
2) Set your fine tuners to middle position
3) Tune up your guitar to standard or whichever tunings u wish
4) If the floating bridge comes out, loosen the tunings and then tighten the springs in the tremolo cavity at the back, if the bridge sinks, then vice-versa

more info on tuning floyd roses - http://www.floydrose.com/originaltremolo.html
picture guide on how to perform the #4 step mentioned above - http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/floydrosetremolo.htm
http://www.jemsite.com/tech/1setup.htm#step1

Checking the intonation
1) Check the intonation on each strings and you might want to get a pencil for this. Jot down every sharps or flats on every strings
2) Pick a harmonic at the 12th fret of E and make sure its tuned to your tuning like open E = 12th fret harmonics. Or any downtunings make sure its the same
3) Now fret the 12th fret with normal finger pressure and check wheter its the same
4) If the notes of the open note vs. the natural harmonic are different you need to adjust the saddle position
5) Mark the strings that you wish to intonate

Setting the intonation
1) If you dont have the special tool, you need to loosen the string 1 by one and adjust its intonation step by step.
2) Here's the tricky part, your string needs to be properly loosed and you might want to hold it using ur fingers because if the tension is still there, the strings will pull the intonation saddle after you loosen it.
3) Loosen the saddle screw, see your notes that you just jotted, if the fretted note is SHARP, move the saddle AWAY from the neck and vice-versa.
4) You might have to move the saddle quite a bit to realize changes. You can get it really far back, past the bolt's head or washer in fact.
5) There are two bolt positions for adjustments so if there is not enough adjustment in the saddle move saddle further and use the next hole for the intonation lock down screw as you can see on pic below:

Ibanez ILT example Bridge
*there is another hole in front that you can put the saddle screw if the desired intonation isnt proper.
6) Tighten the intonation lock screw firmly taking care not to strip the screw
7) Retune the string and retest fret-12 fretted to the fret-12 natural harmonic
8) This is probably the most sickening step of all. This is a really really by trial and error, so if your desired pitch isnt working, you have to do it again and again and repeat the steps above until its properly intoned.

Really important notes, read this through
- Loosen the strings to make way for the allen/hex wrench to be properly inserted in the saddle screw. AVOID contact with the hex wrench and the strings. I did this once and the string just break....
- The notes at the 12th fret open note vs 12 fret natural harmonic should be in tune with themselves
- Do not touch this because thats the string lock.

If you loosen it the strings will pop out. Same as the Ibanez ILT example Bridge, do not touch the (E) part.

- BE PATIENT, you dont want to get any mental breakdowns
- When loosening the strings, make sure that your springs are loosed or if you hate to loosen it back and forth risking ruining the screw thread, hold its position using the trem bar. OR a better way to do it is to put a wooden block on the back of the tremolo to prevent it from moving for awhile.

Hope this helps, its quite bitching and whatnot so you can save your time (but not ur money) by just sending it to professional tech to be properly setup.
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#14
Damn, thats going to be a bitch. screw it, ill just get a pro to do it, but thanks for the effort madpicking
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#16
yeah, i wouldnt mind doing it, just alot of effort and i dont wish to **** it up!
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#17
Yup, i on the other hand like to like to mess up and experiment with guitars n stuffs so, its a real fun to me actually.
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#18
yeh i usually let people stuff up the school guitars so i can learn how to do stuff. always good to know what to and not to do
#19
Well im pretty sure i understand it, so im debating whether or not to give it ago

But by not correctly doing the intonation, can i **** up my guitar? like do any damage to it??
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#20
You could always give it ago and if it doesnt work, there's still a guitar shop somewhere around. So its actually better if you try coz u've got nothing to lose, only time and patience will tell.
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#21
ok, well, i shall post in this thread probably in about an hour to say how it goes
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#22
yeh if it is your first time doing this. do it slowly and if its frustrating take some time off look at porn or do something else and get back to it it keeps frustrating you take it to a guitar shop
#23
If you're jerkin' off just make sure its not close to your guitar plz....thats abuse
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#24
lol, thanks for the advice fellaz! lol
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#27
so how do i loosen the strings??
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#29
ok, i wasnt sure if to do it another way, thanks
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#31
thanks for the help champ, i decided that i shall intonate it tomoz, cause its pretty late and couldnt be ****ed dealing with it right now, but yeah i have to intonate D, G, B and E
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#33
Thats gonna be lotsa fun, you should look forward to it
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