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#121
Quote by Freepower
Apparently its Jim does that particular solo, and theres only one sextuplet (but consistent 5s) so 16.6nps for that chappy then.


I didn't know this list was based on consistency....... In fact, I'm pretty sure half the people on the list hold their high speeds only momentarily......

I was also almost certain it was Mick playing that solo
#122
Quote by Prophet of Page
You know whats funny, this proves nothing really. It doesn't prove that Fareri is the fastest, just that he's really damn fast.


Yeah, and he's quite sloppy too...
#123
Quote by Freepower
Urgh, is there any better sound quality for that? Counting slowed down notes half-accurate is hard enough...



I did look, but nope, sorry.
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#124
Thats ok.

Thats always been the thing about this list - there's people who it's impossible to clock properly. Im going to have a go at clocking lane's legato tonight, for a laugh.
#125
Quote by Freepower
Thats ok.

Thats always been the thing about this list - there's people who it's impossible to clock properly. Im going to have a go at clocking lane's legato tonight, for a laugh.

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#126
Can nobody find anything faster than 14nps for Petrucci? Surely he's faster than that. I'm no massive DT fan so I wouldn't know which songs showcase him best.
#127
Quote by Tom Martin
Can nobody find anything faster than 14nps for Petrucci? Surely he's faster than that. I'm no massive DT fan so I wouldn't know which songs showcase him best.


For alternate picking, I think Freepower's right with the 14nps, I don't believe he's ever passed that mark on an album. But his "A Fortune In Lies" tapping solo is probably a bit faster than 14nps, to my ear anyhow. He sweeps a few arpeggios in Stream of Consciousness that might be faster than his usual, but he's a pretty solid 12-14nps fellow.

But still, a clean 14nps is still REALLY fast, and something to be proud of, imo. It's not like we need to find faster speeds for Petrucci; he's plenty fast. Not saying you implied that or anything, just saying...
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#128
Quote by Kymble
I can sweep at 400bpm

does that me better than those guys?

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Yeah whatever.
#129
In Fatal Tragedy Petrucci Does a sweep in the solo that is at 132 bpm, 7 note sweep in one beat, equates to about 16 NPs
#130
I'm not saying that Petrucci could alt pick faster than 14, but surely he could sweep a bit higher than that? I just think that 14nps seems a bit low for someone like him.

Herman Li deserves a mention, in the latest total guitar he says that he can sweep at 28nps. He didn't give a song or example or anything, but to be honest he probably can.
#131
If Herman Li is on this list, I'll kill myself.

I

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#132
Quote by Tom Martin
I'm not saying that Petrucci could alt pick faster than 14, but surely he could sweep a bit higher than that? I just think that 14nps seems a bit low for someone like him.

Herman Li deserves a mention, in the latest total guitar he says that he can sweep at 28nps. He didn't give a song or example or anything, but to be honest he probably can.



Yeah but its probably a ****ing simple sweep and everything. He's ****ing fast, but it all pretty damn simple really. Like Fareri.
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#133
I think Petrucci does somewhere around 16nps on Ytse Jam.
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#135
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#136
Becase Herman Li is a travesty to guitar.
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#137
Herman Li's fast though. He does tap 26nps if i remember right. Otoh, its so piss simple i didnt really "count" it though...

Havent seen any Li really worth looking at and im not going to look without a definate reason to look at that crap in midi.

Petrucci does go faster than 14nps, but not with picking. If anyone can give me a song bar and info (bpm, division, tab location and technique), i'll add that. (sorry about the earlier petrucci mentions.
#138
Blargh.

Herman Li plays really simple stuff at a tempo I'm not even quite sure of. His tone is masking as anything I've ever heard and obviously overproduced - so much that Bob Rock couldn't get it back the way it was.

He fortifies the image "shred" guitarists and fans have... And what I and many of you have been trying to shake off. Speed for the sake of speed. No "emotion", no thought, just scale wanking up and down. And can you blame them, when everyone's going on about how great of a shredder Herman Li is and they've never heard anyone else?

I, being the non-third person report trusting bloke I am, have seen Dragonforce twice so far. Both of the times I would have been outright ashamed if I were on stage with them. Appauling. This is NOT the way a professional, touring band should perform and is outright offensive to me, being a musician who takes it seriously.

Stuff like that makes me wonder wether he can even pull it off in a non-studio environment, and I don't even think it's impressive, not to mention I think it sounds like uninspired garbage.

Then again, there couldn't be a great guitarist in a band that feels the need to market theirselves as "The fastest band in the world", could there?

Overall, one word comes to mind: Gimmick.
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#140
Quote by Resiliance
Blargh.

Herman Li plays really simple stuff at a tempo I'm not even quite sure of. His tone is masking as anything I've ever heard and obviously overproduced - so much that Bob Rock couldn't get it back the way it was.

He fortifies the image "shred" guitarists and fans have... And what I and many of you have been trying to shake off. Speed for the sake of speed. No "emotion", no thought, just scale wanking up and down. And can you blame them, when everyone's going on about how great of a shredder Herman Li is and they've never heard anyone else?

I, being the non-third person report trusting bloke I am, have seen Dragonforce twice so far. Both of the times I would have been outright ashamed if I were on stage with them. Appauling. This is NOT the way a professional, touring band should perform and is outright offensive to me, being a musician who takes it seriously.

Stuff like that makes me wonder wether he can even pull it off in a non-studio environment, and I don't even think it's impressive, not to mention I think it sounds like uninspired garbage.

Then again, there couldn't be a great guitarist in a band that feels the need to market theirselves as "The fastest band in the world", could there?

Overall, one word comes to mind: Gimmick.


he's still faster and cleaner than I am.
#141
^No offense meant when I say,So? Just because someone is better than you are doesn't mean shit....
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#142
No matter how cheesy music he makes or how simple licks he play, Li deserves to be on the list, if his NPS is high enough. I mean, c'mon even that Slipknot guy is there!
#143
^Yeah, true ofcourse... But hey... I just feel the list starts to turn into a parody of itself if people like Jim Root and Herman Li get into it...

Although surely if they get the nps they should be.

Here's an idea... Maybe the name should be changed from "Fastest guitarist" to "Fastest recorded guitarists" or something of the like.
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#144
Quote by Resiliance
Blargh.

Herman Li plays really simple stuff at a tempo I'm not even quite sure of. His tone is masking as anything I've ever heard and obviously overproduced - so much that Bob Rock couldn't get it back the way it was.

He fortifies the image "shred" guitarists and fans have... And what I and many of you have been trying to shake off. Speed for the sake of speed. No "emotion", no thought, just scale wanking up and down. And can you blame them, when everyone's going on about how great of a shredder Herman Li is and they've never heard anyone else?

I, being the non-third person report trusting bloke I am, have seen Dragonforce twice so far. Both of the times I would have been outright ashamed if I were on stage with them. Appauling. This is NOT the way a professional, touring band should perform and is outright offensive to me, being a musician who takes it seriously.

Stuff like that makes me wonder wether he can even pull it off in a non-studio environment, and I don't even think it's impressive, not to mention I think it sounds like uninspired garbage.

Then again, there couldn't be a great guitarist in a band that feels the need to market theirselves as "The fastest band in the world", could there?

Overall, one word comes to mind: Gimmick.


+1 man. Honestly, who names their band "DragonForce"?...Sounds like some early 90's children's cartoon or action hero lineup.
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#145
Lol, thats a good idea...

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Then again, there couldn't be a great guitarist in a band that feels the need to market theirselves as "The fastest band in the world", could there?


Those silly fools. The Berzerker IS the fastest band in the world. If they continue to do that, there'll be a showdown. And i wouldnt bet on the sloppy poofs.

Lol, and you're forgetting Nitro - the highest, fastest, and loudest!
#147
Quote by waylay00
+1 man. Honestly, who names their band "DragonForce"?...Sounds like some early 90's children's cartoon or action hero lineup.



obviously you are missing the point on what dragonforce are all about. you too Resi.


but no more arguing.
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#148
Oh, I'm not missing the point.

I just think the point is a very, very crappy one.
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#149
Agreed, I dono but to me it seems all the rather (used loosely, please) n00bish type people to the shred forum adore him. He is, nothing more than an opposition of what we try to promote shred as. Shred is difficult, shred is fast, but not all the time but not fast for the sake of it. Shred is emotional, inspired, etc., not just Herman Li's "OOOOMMMGGGG, OMMMMGGG guys!, I can play teh fastzorz!"
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#150
Quote by shredfan
Check out Michael Romeo's Betcha Can't Play This lick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj5iD__lX04&search=michael%20romeo

Damn fast and hard, but a cool lick. I can't play it.

tempo 172, not sure what the groupings are, possibly 32nds for some of the descending stuff?


Ah, thanks for sharing!

Is it just the camera angle, or has Romeo slimmed down a bit?
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#151
Hey guys, I don't have tabs for this, but maybe you could slow down the recording to find out how many nps Petrucci is playing. I thought these should at least be looked at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNmXtuCtdw0&search=john%20petrucci

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtmhvTYbUQw&search=john%20petrucci

Also, the end of Wishful Thinking from his solo album is pretty darn fast. I'd have to say that as far as alternate picking goes, the end of that song is the fastest I've ever heard him play.
#152
Quote by Night_Lights
obviously you are missing the point on what dragonforce are all about. you too Resi.


but no more arguing.


And may I ask what the "point" of DragonForce is?
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#153
Quote by shredfan
Check out Michael Romeo's Betcha Can't Play This lick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj5iD__lX04&search=michael%20romeo

Damn fast and hard, but a cool lick. I can't play it.

tempo 172, not sure what the groupings are, possibly 32nds for some of the descending stuff?


have you got the tab for it?

I'd figure it out but im lazy right now.
#154
Quote by chase09
Hey guys, I don't have tabs for this, but maybe you could slow down the recording to find out how many nps Petrucci is playing. I thought these should at least be looked at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNmXtuCtdw0&search=john%20petrucci

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtmhvTYbUQw&search=john%20petrucci

Also, the end of Wishful Thinking from his solo album is pretty darn fast. I'd have to say that as far as alternate picking goes, the end of that song is the fastest I've ever heard him play.


Thats the second mention for wishful thinking i have...if you could send me a high quality mp3 of just that section im sure i could take a proper look.

Those videos are pretty useless - the sound quality isnt good enough for me to slow it down and count, and my ear isnt good enough to figure out EXACTLY what he does and then calculate it.
#155
I suppose i better ask.... is Alex skolnick counted as fast ? I've often wondered.
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#156
I'd say he is pretty fast... Although I don't know much of his Testament stuff, I have both the Alex Skolnick Trio albums.
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#157
I Can Shred Faster Thhan Joo Lolol!!!11!!

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#158
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Thats the second mention for wishful thinking i have...if you could send me a high quality mp3 of just that section im sure i could take a proper look.


I don't know how to edit the song to only play the end, so I just uploaded the entire song straight out of iTunes (I imported it to iTunes from the actual CD). The really fast alternate picking is from 7:07 - 7:18. Anyway, I think you should give the whole song a listen because it's really good, my second favorite on the album behind Glasgow Kiss.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=FFFAD7E0636C4650
#159
Quote by Resiliance
I'd say he is pretty fast... Although I don't know much of his Testament stuff, I have both the Alex Skolnick Trio albums.


I've got some of that off your site, great stuff.

Btw, if you are talking about the new petrucci, my pm box is open.
#160
From the tab of Beast Harlot in Total Guitar:

Synster Gates plays sextuplets at 155bpm

15.5 nps
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