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#81
Quote by onimacaroni
Downloaded mass grave architects a while ago never gave it a proper listen, everybody says their like the bleakest band to ever listen to ever, but they just sound like any other black metal band iv heard! Any ideas on their most horrible painful scary as shit etc tunes so i can check that out? Cheers


get Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice and Kenose
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#82
I've heard of this band several times, but never actually listened to them until now. My take on them: They want to be an "intelligent" version of Ildjarn, or something like that. This is not complex or intelligent, and completely pales in comparison to the uncompromising hatred of something like Ildjarn. I see nothing of value in this. Slightly dissonant melodies in the unresolved Immortal riff continuity style. The difference being Immortal create an epic frosty winterkingdom with their use of polyphonic evolution. This band creates a giant turd. I suggest everyone cease and desist listening to this band and try out some better black metal...like Necromantia. Now that is some intelligent black metal.
#83
How the hell do you define intelligent black metal or how a band is trying to come off as such, stop spewing so much bullshit and try listening to the music.
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#84
I wouldnt even class myself as a fan of DSO but fs man guy above me is right just listen to the tunes, if you like it good if you dont fair enough, all that time you spent ragin about them you coulda listened to something you actually liked!

But its a post filled with that much bollocks i think your just a troll having a laugh hahaaha
#85
Quote by onimacaroni


But its a post filled with that much bollocks i think your just a troll having a laugh hahaaha


No shit, he's been recommending Necromantia in literally ever black metal band thread, also look at his username.
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#86
Well, I checked out Necomantia... I don't see much of a comparison. They have some nice melodies, but it's much more symphonic and organized.
#87
Quote by illuminatiano
How the hell do you define intelligent black metal or how a band is trying to come off as such, stop spewing so much bullshit and try listening to the music.

I did listen to the music, that's what triggered the post. I would consider actually giving you a legitimate reply, but you clearly had some emotional knee-jerk response to my post. If you have a problem with other people sharing their views, why are you on an internet forum?

all that time you spent ragin about them you coulda listened to something you actually liked!

Well, I didn't spend any time "ragin." So, I don't know what that's about. However, how was I supposed to know whether or not I would like their music if I hadn't listened to it until just recently?

*edit
I agree. There is no comparison between this band and Necromantia. Necromantia rule. Also, the reason I keep bringing them up is that another user made a thread about this band that went totally unnoticed and was not given the appreciation or time it deserved.
Last edited by NotFromANUS at Oct 14, 2010,
#88
Quote by NotFromANUS
I did listen to the music, that's what triggered the post. I would consider actually giving you a legitimate reply, but you clearly had some emotional knee-jerk response to my post. If you have a problem with other people sharing their views, why are you on an internet forum?


Nah, that's just how I talk. Now go on and answer my question.

edit : boo fucking hoo, if noone posts in your thread, just bump it, no need to shout it atop ever thread you can.
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Last edited by illuminatiano at Oct 14, 2010,
#89
Quote by illuminatiano
Nah, that's just how I talk.

I don't believe you, but intelligent music would be characterized by an obvious degree of thoughtfulness in its construction and execution, whereas stupid music would have very little. Does that clear things up?

edit : boo fucking hoo, if noone posts in your thread, just bump it, no need to shout it atop ever thread you can.

It wasn't my thread, retard. Learn to read.
#90
Quote by NotFromANUS
I don't believe you, but intelligent music would be characterized by an obvious degree of thoughtfulness in its construction and execution, whereas stupid music would have very little. Does that clear things up?


It wasn't my thread, retard. Learn to read.


Way to not get my point at all

And no, it barely clears anything, but that's okay, I'm glad I got anything out of you.
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#91
Quote by illuminatiano
Way to not get my point at all

And no, it barely clears anything, but that's okay, I'm glad I got anything out of you.

Way to not get my point at all.
Are you openly conceding that you actually had no interest in discussing anything of substance or are you really just that dense?
#92
I don't believe questioning the claim of the term "intelligent black metal" serves as a substantial discussion.
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#97
Holy shit this now song is great, it's nothing new for DSO but it's very powerfull.I love how menacing and occult sounding it is.Really well thought out riffs and song structure as well.Also,how the hell does this sound anything like Immortal? Thats just a really bad comparison.
Quote by Steve08
Acid probably makes you feel less like a hedonistic raver piece of trash, too.

#98
Quote by Riffmast
Holy shit this now song is great, it's nothing new for DSO but it's very powerfull.I love how menacing and occult sounding it is.Really well thought out riffs and song structure as well.Also,how the hell does this sound anything like Immortal? Thats just a really bad comparison.

It doesn't sound like Immortal. I said they used a technique similar to Immortal. Namely they often allow their rhythms to continually flow without proper resolution. When you combine this with their use of polyphonic chord progressions you can see the comparison as that is something Immortal made heavy use of (some records more than others).
#99
Quote by NotFromANUS
It doesn't sound like Immortal. I said they used a technique similar to Immortal. Namely they often allow their rhythms to continually flow without proper resolution. When you combine this with their use of polyphonic chord progressions you can see the comparison as that is something Immortal made heavy use of (some records more than others).
... what the hell does this even mean?
#100
Quote by Steve08
... what the hell does this even mean?

You see. Typically, rhythms will resolve themselves within a fixed interval. However, sometimes bands will not resolve them properly, in order to give a continual flow to the music.

If you don't know what polyphony is or how it relates to Immortal or this band, I have nothing more to say to you.
#101
Quote by NotFromANUS
You see. Typically, rhythms will resolve themselves within a fixed interval. However, sometimes bands will not resolve them properly, in order to give a continual flow to the music.

If you don't know what polyphony is or how it relates to Immortal or this band, I have nothing more to say to you.
Resolution refers to chord progressions, so I don't know what you're on about still, it seems like you're trying to articulate something about some kind of pseudo-music theory without actually knowing much about it...?

And yes I know what polyphony is, but that doesn't relate to chords, which by their nature are used homophonically.
Last edited by Steve08 at Oct 17, 2010,
#102
Quote by NotFromANUS
It doesn't sound like Immortal. I said they used a technique similar to Immortal. Namely they often allow their rhythms to continually flow without proper resolution. When you combine this with their use of polyphonic chord progressions you can see the comparison as that is something Immortal made heavy use of (some records more than others).


So many other Black Metal bands use the same techniques though,it's such a broad thing really.It's just not a very good comparison.I get what you mean though.
Quote by Steve08
Acid probably makes you feel less like a hedonistic raver piece of trash, too.

#103
Quote by Steve08
Resolution refers to chord progressions, so I don't know what you're on about still, it seems like you're trying to articulate something about some kind of pseudo-music theory without actually knowing much about it...?

Resolution is not a concept limited to chord progressions.

And yes I know what polyphony is, but that doesn't relate to chords, which by their nature are homophonic.

Immortal uses polyphony in chords by layering their sound. They use standard power chords, as in most metal, but also add harmonic accompaniment within those chords that creates a countering to the underlying progression.

*edit To Riff-raff: Fair enough. As long as the point gets across.
Last edited by NotFromANUS at Oct 17, 2010,
#104
Quote by NotFromANUS
Resolution is not a concept limited to chord progressions.


Immortal uses polyphony in chords by layering their sound. They use standard power chords, as in most metal, but also add harmonic accompaniment within those chords that creates a countering to the underlying progression.
Uh...



I can tell you right now that most Immortal rhythms are basically just straight 8th/16th notes or other rhythms that divide by two, which won't really resolve unless you use very syncopated accenting patterns, which they won't, as opposed to tuplets and other such odd-meter phrasings, but whatever.

I'm not seeing how the situation you described would be in Immortal's music, either, or also how that makes sense at all. I mean, polyphony is a texture with two or more voices, and this "harmonic accompaniment" doesn't really exist, because a power chord is just a root, fifth and maybe notes in a higher octave. That's like saying they're playing classical music between two guitars, even though they're probably playing the same riff at the same time.

Last edited by Steve08 at Oct 17, 2010,
#105
Quote by Steve08
Uh...



I can tell you right now that most Immortal rhythms are basically just straight 8th/16th notes or other rhythms that divide by two, which won't really resolve unless you use very syncopated accenting patterns, which they won't, as opposed to tuplets and other such odd-meter phrasings, but whatever.

I'm not seeing how the situation you described would be in Immortal's music, either, or also how that makes sense at all. I mean, polyphony is a texture with two or more voices, and this "harmonic accompaniment" doesn't really exist, because a power chord is just a root, fifth and maybe notes in a higher octave. That's like saying they're playing classical music between two guitars, even though they're probably playing the same riff at the same time.


There's clearly some failure in communication here. I'll simply take responsibility for that and move on. Unless you really want to continue this discussion.
#107
No they do actually do that if you listen to some of their tracks. This is a pretty typical black metal technique though.And DSO definately expand into more complex and interesting ideas most of the time.

Edit:while i don't know allot of theory i assume what he meant was how they use powerchords but certain notes of the chord will change over as the progression goes and within the strumming of the chord it'self.Also they use powerchords with other melodies on top that work with it but offer some contrast as well. Not to well of articulation in my explanation, but that kinda explains it i think.
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Acid probably makes you feel less like a hedonistic raver piece of trash, too.

Last edited by Riffmast at Oct 17, 2010,
#108
The new album cover makes me think of a combination of Anaal Nathrakh's eschaton and Domine Non Es Dignus

Also, that vinyl set is mighty tempting even though I haven't listened to much of their early stuff outside of Inquisitors.
Last edited by technicolour at Oct 17, 2010,
#109
I think the new material is pretty good. This Devouring Famine was stellar, very worth my time.
#110
Paracletus leaked.
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#111
According to Kevin from Dysrhythmia, it's damn good but the quality is clippy and lame.
#112
Who gives a damn what he thinks, dysrhythmia is excruciatingly boring even live.
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#114
He just joined gorguts.
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#115
Quote by illuminatiano
He just joined gorguts.


Luc picked him for a reason.

Plus he helped write the new stuff, which sounds fantastic thus far.
#117
I haven't heard any music from him that i've liked, and until gorguts release their new album he can't really be judged from that point of view. Anyways, Deathspell Omega's newest is pretty damn good.
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Last edited by illuminatiano at Nov 8, 2010,
#118
Quote by Steve08
He joined at least six months ago >_>



Godammit.


http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1312030417#!/album.php?aid=24624&id=144389995579868

Also he joined more than a year ago.

http://auralstates.com/2009/08/interview-dysrhythmia-w-kevin-hufnagel.html

Edit:

Who cares, this is the deathspell thread. And I will get new deathspell later today.
Last edited by jibran at Nov 8, 2010,
#119
By that I meant, he was with them as of May or June at the very least, although they've had samples posted of new music and have had their new lineup (which is godly by the way) since 2009.