#1
I am having trouble playing the 21st and 22nd frets on my Gibson Les Paul Standard. It's also got a 50's neck on it which I found made it harder to play (when I first picked it up) but it had the best tone in the store (in my opinion). I can reach the 19th and 20th frets no problem, even up to the A string. I defenitly can't reach the 21st fret with my index, so I end up playing with my ring and pinky, but than my bends sound weak because I have not fingers behind my pinky. I can easily reach with my middle finger if I take my thumb out from behind the neck, but I loose grip obviously and I bet it's a technical no no. I have a feeling it's my thumb technique that is holding me back, any suggestions?
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#2
That's the problem some people have with LP's-they don't have the best fret access. I don't know what you could do to improve your reach though. Sorry.
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#3
Which strings are the ones that you cannot reach those frets? If its all of them youve got a problem, but you can sort it just by doing some hand exersices everytime before you start playing, such are found here

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#4
you can improve your bends with your pinky and ring finger by putting your other fingers on the same string behind the fretted note, that way you have a few more fingers helping out your pinky. also, if playing with your pinky is limiting, do what i do and only use your first three fingers on the high frets--they're spaced closer together anyway so you don't even need the extra reach of your pinky most of the time. yeah, i think that should help a lot
#5
Ya i've got the same problem as well but hey, if the LP's are good enough for slash, zakk wylde, jimmy page, joe perry, randy rhoads and such and such. Than they are good enough for me and you, so i just find a way to make it happen.
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#6
Build more strengh in your pinky+ring fingers, bend more with them, then you'll be able to do it better up high.

And LP's fret access up high aren't the greatest.
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#7
Adjusting the action wouldn't do anything right?

But mabye you could change the string gauge
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^I don't think the problem's about action, more about reaching.

The string guage may help with making those high bends easier for your fingers though, but you should just take it like a man and build some strengh in your fingers.
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#9
i do the same thing you do Ely. i just slip my thumb out from under the neck. then let it rest on the bottom of the neck. im only ever up there for a few seconds so cheating doesnt bother me
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you can improve your bends with your pinky and ring finger by putting your other fingers on the same string behind the fretted note, that way you have a few more fingers helping out your pinky. also, if playing with your pinky is limiting, do what i do and only use your first three fingers on the high frets--they're spaced closer together anyway so you don't even need the extra reach of your pinky most of the time. yeah, i think that should help a lot


i disagree the more fingers you have the faster you can play.
#11
well the only string you really need to bend is the high E, everything else just do it on the next string on a lesser fret
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^I don't think the problem's about action, more about reaching.

The string guage may help with making those high bends easier for your fingers though, but you should just take it like a man and build some strengh in your fingers.



Oh allright,

I'd better start stretching my fingers.
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Which strings are the ones that you cannot reach those frets? If its all of them youve got a problem, but you can sort it just by doing some hand exersices everytime before you start playing, such are found here


Holy cow, I've been searching for exercises like that since the first day I started playing! Thanks.
Oh well, I guess I'll just "take it like a man" and do the practice, practice, practice thing and get better and stronger. I always ask first on UG if there's a miracle fix...
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#14
I play a LP too, and the fret access is definitely not as great as most other guitars. When I'm playing that high, I just give a good stretch and use my ring finger. I can't do anything that high with my pinky. And, like Dan Steinman said, use your other fingers to support bends with your ring and pinky fingers. This is, in my opinion, about the only downside of a Les Paul, but what I said works for me
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