#1
Are they actually the same ??

If not, which has more gain ??

Which has a darker sound ??

Which has BETTER CLEANS !!??

Which one does Bjorn Gelotte(inFlames) and Steve Morse use ??

I heard they were biased too cold and made them sound sterile, but the demo clips in the website were gainier than any Steve Morse record I've heard !!! Or can they actually go reaallllllllll dirty powerball-esque ??

How do you "warm'em up" to get an even gainier sound ??

How do you mod them ??

Wads the difference between the 6505+ and the 6505 ?? Which one is better for you ??

Thx, noob checkin out....
Tone is all ...... well probably 75%, in your fingers.
The rest depends on your wallet's thickness !!

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#2
the 5150 was used on there early stuff
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#3
The 5150II is gonna give better cleans, but less gain, or so I've heard. The extra 12AX7 pre-tube is for the better cleans, which the seperate EQ is also for. If you want a 5150II, get it re-biased/modded. I personally don't like stock 5150II's, but modded 5150II's are pretty decent sounding, IMO.
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#4
Yes, but you haven't answered the rest and............... No one knows how to bias around moi !!!
Tone is all ...... well probably 75%, in your fingers.
The rest depends on your wallet's thickness !!

Keep the faith, baby!!
#5
Well, the mod warms it up and you can get a mod through Voodoo amps. And I think the 5150/6505 has a darker sound than the II/+ version. As for the artist questions, I have no idea.
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#6
6505=5150
6505+=5150 II

The old 5150 and new 6505 are essentially the same amps except the name brand.

As for specs, they're all there on the Peavey site. And IMO, neither amp has great cleans. The 5150 II / 6505+ has better cleans than it's "little brother", but not by much.
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#7
deffinatly the 6505 and 5150 have more gain.. the clean channel is all but great... but with a chorus it will fix it right up and sound pretty decent.... if you want heavier go with 6505 or 5150 seeing how they are the same amp... if your looking for cleans deff 6505+ but again cleans are not all that bad on the 6505 with a chorus added in
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