#1
OK here's the deal, right now I have a MIA Fender Strat and a Squire Master Series Esprit, I plan on selling the Esprit for about $300 since I boughtit for $400 and its brand new because right after I bought it I got the Strat as a gift. I was then wondering if this would be a good idea or plan and around how much labor would cost for some of this:
-Buy an Agile AL3000 or Epiphone Les Paul Plain-Top (which one?)
-Drop a Burstbucker 1 in the neck and a Burstbucker 2 in the bridge

Now here's my question I cannot solder or do any maintenance on guitars because I don't know how so I was wondering two things:

-Would that give me the Les Paul sound and look
-How much would it cost to have a guitar shop put the buckers in for me and set it up perfectly (ie. intonation, fretboard, trussrod)

Right now without labor its looking like a cost of around $600 and I was wondering about what do you think a guitar shop would charge for labor to do the rest.
Last edited by slugger21 at Jun 20, 2006,
#2
If I were you, I would just buy the AL-3500 and not change out the pickups since Crunchmeister (spelling?) did a comparison between the pickups on the 3000 and a Gibby LP with Seymour Duncans and he said the Agile sounded a lot like that so the 3500's pickups are most likely a lot better. Just keep it stock.
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#3
yeah, but I thought he had replaced the PUPS in the Agile on the review, I may be wrong, I was just wondering if with either the Agile or Epiphone if I swapped out the pickups with the real LP pickups (burstbuckers) would the sounds be really good and really close? Or would it still not have much tone or crunch
#4
ok I'm going to rephrase this alittle bit....what are the best pickups to use for the Slash tone or Ted Nugent tone out of their LPs?
#5
Quote by SGStrummer61
If I were you, I would just buy the AL-3500 and not change out the pickups since Crunchmeister (spelling?) did a comparison between the pickups on the 3000 and a Gibby LP with Seymour Duncans and he said the Agile sounded a lot like that so the 3500's pickups are most likely a lot better. Just keep it stock.



Not true, he's replaced the pickups in both of 'em with EMGs.

Anyway, I'd use something like a Seymour Duncan Alnico II Pro for Slash tones.
#6
Actually, he only replaced the Agile with EMGs, but I was saying before he replaced the pups on the Agile, he was comparing it to a Les Paul Standard with SD 59s.
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Line 6 Spider II

REMEMBER, ALL TONE IS SUBJECTIVE!
#8
Can you get Seymour Duncan Alnico II Pro nickle or chrome cover rather than gold?
#9
^Yes, but id say go for Bareknuckle Mules (they will probalby get teh Slash tone easly). I myself doesn't like Duncans, i think they sound boring and lifeless.
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#10
It really depends on where he lives too, because if he is in America it will be much easier to get Alnico II Pro's then Barenuckles...
#12
Right now what I think I'm going to do is get an Epiphone Les Paul Plain Top for about $400 then drop in the Alnico II Pro PUPS for about $300 which includes a guitar set up and installation. Think it will sound good or is that a good plan?
Last edited by slugger21 at Jun 20, 2006,
#13
^Sounds great to me. Be sure to play around with the stock pickups for a few weeks before doing the pup change. You may just like the stock pups.
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#14
how are the stock pups on an epi? Also for that kind of money even though I REALLY want heritage cherry burst should I go with this and get a real Gibson Les Paul? Only downfall is I don't know how the PUPs are in that one stock, I really am looking for the alnico's II pro
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-Les-Paul-Special-SL-Humbucker-Electric-Guitar?sku=517279

So now my dilema is that I woudl like to stay UNDER $700...Which would sound better in your guys' opinions and which one should I go for, The modded Epi or the stock Gibson
#15
Quote by slugger21
how are the stock pups on an epi? Also for that kind of money even though I REALLY want heritage cherry burst should I go with this and get a real Gibson Les Paul? Only downfall is I don't know how the PUPs are in that one stock, I really am looking for the alnico's II pro
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-Les-Paul-Special-SL-Humbucker-Electric-Guitar?sku=517279

So now my dilema is that I woudl like to stay UNDER $700...Which would sound better in your guys' opinions and which one should I go for, The modded Epi or the stock Gibson


well if you want slash tone for under $700 do a modded epi.... but the stock gibson will sound WAY BETTER trust me gibson owner right here
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well if you want slash tone for under $700 do a modded epi.... but the stock gibson will sound WAY BETTER trust me gibson owner right here



sound better in what sense? If I put better pups in a modded epi why whould that sound worse than a stock gib, they are both the same kind of wood
#17
Under $700, go with the modded Plain Top. I think it comes in heritage cherry burst.

Over $700, go for an Epiphone Elitist. They're about $1000 and every bit as good as any non-custom shop Gibson. The pickups in them are Gibson's as well, although they use a different name.
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#18
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how are the stock pups on an epi? Also for that kind of money even though I REALLY want heritage cherry burst should I go with this and get a real Gibson Les Paul? Only downfall is I don't know how the PUPs are in that one stock, I really am looking for the alnico's II pro
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-Les-Paul-Special-SL-Humbucker-Electric-Guitar?sku=517279

So now my dilema is that I woudl like to stay UNDER $700...Which would sound better in your guys' opinions and which one should I go for, The modded Epi or the stock Gibson



DO NOT GET THAT GIBSON. It's a flat top, poorly built POS. It's wuite possible one of the worst models Gibson makes, and it won't sound ANYTHING like what you expect.