#1
Hey I was just looking at this...

http://www.thomann.de/thoiw6_artikel-178988.html

Does anyone know if its a decent amp? Because last time I looked a 50 watt valve/tube combo costed a lot more than 568 euros?? Is there a reason its so cheap?
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#2
My friend has one and i think it is cool.
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#3
thanks...what kinda music is it good for?

Anyone else got any opinions?
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#4
I got one recently (From that site too ) And I love it, Great distortion, Great cleans. Versatile too, I Can go from Thin Lizzy to Cradle of Filth with my Epiphone Les Paul.

EDIT: BTW, That picture shows it with a headphones jack but It doesn't have one. I think some of the older ones have it but I ordered one from that site about a month ago and It doesn't have a headphones jack
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#5
I heard that the cleans weren't great, but i don't really play much clean stuff on electric anyways, so would you think it would suit Pantera (I know Dimebag used Randall), Metallica, Megadeth, Tool?

Thanks

Oh and how much did it cost you for delivery and stuff?
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#6
Delivery was ?15. To be honest it's kinda hard to get a pantera kinda tone on it as while Dimebag did use Randalls, He used Solid-States rather than Tubes. You can do Pantera on it but It wont sound exactly like Dimebags tone. Apart from that though, It is good for Metallica and Megadeth stuff, Not so sure about Tool as I don't listen to them much. But it is a good all round amp
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#7
cool, would you think there are any better amps in that kinda range? (I'm guessing no since you bought one, but you know what I mean)
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#8
in the US, it's 600 i believe and for that price is tough to get a tube metal tone...the only competitor i can think is the Ashdown Fallen Angel, which is probably better, and as you're in euroland, it'd be even cheaper over there

look into that one as well
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#9
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cool, would you think there are any better amps in that kinda range? (I'm guessing no since you bought one, but you know what I mean)


That's true But I think that it's worth having a look around anyways. As HopePoisoned mentioned, there is the Ashdown Fallen Angel. I Actually looked for one but I couldn't find them for sale anywhere. If you can find one though it mightn't be a bad idea to try it out, I've heard good things about Ashdowns except for a few reliability issues.
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#10
cool I'll check it out, thanks...
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#11
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thanks...what kinda music is it good for?


Well they use it for rock/grunge and some clean stuff.
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#12
about the ashdown, doesn't digital effects defeat the purpose of getting a tube amp?
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#13
^ Not necessarily, the Hughes And Kettner Switchblade has built in effects.

Personally, I don't like the idea of having effects in the amp but I don't think it effects the quality of the amp really.
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#14
Are ashdown available in Ireland dude?
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#15
Yeah I'm pretty sure they are, I've seen plenty of Ashdown Bass amps in Dublin anyway. I haven't actually found a Fallen Angel anywhere but if there are Bass Ashdowns around then there's no reason why there shouldn't be Guitar ones.
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#16
I'm seeing it on www.guitarbargains.com but its more expensive than the Randall
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#17
just to answer your original question, it's cheap (like the ashdown) because it's made in china. I haven't tried the randall, but I've tried the ashdown. The digi-fx doesn't destroy the tubey-ness of the amp, you can just turn them off. But i'd have vastly preferred spring reverb.

either musician inc or music maker in dublin did ashdown the last time I was in (about two years ago, unfortunately) but I can't remember if they had any fallen angels...

know anywhere you can try that randall?

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#18
I asked a guy to look in Dublin for me and he said a Fallen Angel is 850, which is way too expensive for me, and the Randall, I doubt its available anywhere in Ireland, would probably have to buy online...so I'm considering just upgrading my Marshall MG to a Roland Cube or something and then saving up for a proper tube amp like a Marshall JCM or something in a while....Any thoughts?
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#19
^ well, i mean a randall rg50tc is a proper tube amp, it just happens to be made in china. Like the fallen angel.

The problem is not being able to try it. it could suck. that's true. But it also could be a great little amp, but just plain not suit your tastes, which means it'd suck to you, while everyone else would also be correct in saying it was good, if it suited them.

Which is why it's virtually impossible to buy without trying...

And I dunno, I'm not too fussed on the new marshall jcm's...
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#20
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about the ashdown, doesn't digital effects defeat the purpose of getting a tube amp?


hahahaa no...absolutely not, pro effects are digital too - rackmounted and digital

IE, the TC Electronics rack gear, the Eventide line, intellifex, rsp550, replifex, intelliverb, etc. etc.

just look at the MP1 and MP2 preamps, or another tube midi preamp (triaxis or engl e580)

that old proverb, "dont judge a book by its cover" - yeah.....
-Mike
#21
fair enough the TC electronics are very good, so i guess digital effects are good

And to Dave Mc, I wasn't being literal about the JCM, I just meant until I can afford a proper all tube professional kind of amp, I was considering just getting a Cube 30 or Vox AD15VT...but I prefer metal and shred, so would you recommend the Cube 30 for about 200 euros?
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#22
for metal and stuff, cube is definitely better. especially for shred.
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#23
yeah its probably the way I'll go

How is it for reliability and stuff?
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#24
fine, good track record

what do you plan to do with this thing anyway? what's the cube for?
-Mike
#25
I plan to play in my room, for practice basically, but is it ok to run a, for example, Dunlop 535Q Crybaby through a Roland Cube? I'm asking because I know pedals aren't good for modelling amps...
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#26
as far as I know, that's hogwash. It won't mess up your amp or anything. It might sound a little off, but that would be the worst that could happen methinks. I run a od/dist pedal through my vox and it's fine.
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#27
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And to Dave Mc, I wasn't being literal about the JCM, I just meant until I can afford a proper all tube professional kind of amp, I was considering just getting a Cube 30 or Vox AD15VT...but I prefer metal and shred, so would you recommend the Cube 30 for about 200 euros?


ah, ok, sorry about that.

I haven't tried the valvetronix, and have only tried the microcube, so I'll stay out of the modelling amp discussion.

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#28
yeah do whatever you want with the cube, it won't be any more or less than the tone it already has (unless the crybaby is just a tone killer or is noisy in general)

modelling has no relevence to it's workhorse nature
-Mike
#29
Ok I'm undecided once again, because I've just found a Laney LC15 in Ireland and its 299 euros, so I'm back to thinking about it again....

So its either get a Cube for now for about 200 and then save and get a decent tube amp maybe a year down the line, or get the Laney now and be broke....

Its a hard decision...
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#30
^ see if you can get a hold of the vc15 to try as well- it's a little more (like £50), but has two channels etc. I hear the transformers are under-specced in the smaller lc's too, but they may be in the vc's as well. I'd pm power freak to see what he says.
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#31
ok well thanks for the help, I'll think about it
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