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#1
OKay so maybe their not classic rock but I got into them and I really like them, even if they are pop. They're amazing.

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Genesis IS classic rock im pretty sure. Either way yea their good.


edit: at least the old genesis is
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Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the prog Genesis, threadstarter? Even better than the pop Genesis imo. Peter Gabriel did most of the singing in this era.

Some albums of note are: Trespass (with, I believe, Anthony Phillips on guitar). He eventually quit due to stage fright. A good album though.

Then, with Steve Hackett on guitar, comes my favorite part: Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England by the Pound, and The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (a concept album). Phil Collins joined the band at this time. Steve Hackett began mixing in tapping into his playing (pre-EVH!) and supposedly sweep picking, although I have yet to find that. I highly recommend all these albums, though.

During the Gabriel period, Gabriel would often dress in costumes and put on performances during the songs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdD6L4cKKU8&search=genesis%20knight This is the song Dancing with the Moonlit Knight. Gabriel has a spot he shaved for some reason on his head? I'm pretty sure you can see a little tapping in this video, but I'm not sure.

Then there was the Hackett/Collins era, which still produced proggish stuff. The two albums are a Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering. Again, both are recommended, but control of the band is moving away from Hackett. He would later quit, and the band really began moving in the pop direction you know.


Hopefully you can check out the above albums. If you want song recommendations, let me know. I also highly recommend Hackett's solo career stuff, ranging from prog to classical guitar. Again, I would be happy to recommend material to you
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Peter Gabriel era Genesis is quite possibly the best music ever to grace this earth with its presence. Foxtrot makes my hair stand on end every time i hear it. Oh and btw, he had that part of his head shaved so certain masks fit better.
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Quote by Casmin_Fluffer
I like Genesis after Collins stepped up to do vocals. I just like his voice better.

-C_Fluff



That, right there, is amazing, absolute blasphemy. Not saying that Collins sings like a cat but man, Gabriels voice is unique. uuuuuunique.

And psychodelias right, later genesis is kinda pop but grab foxtrot, nursery crime at least. It created the fondations of what progressive rock truly is.
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Quote by Muaddib
That, right there, is amazing, absolute blasphemy. Not saying that Collins sings like a cat but man, Gabriels voice is unique. uuuuuunique.

And psychodelias right, later genesis is kinda pop but grab foxtrot, nursery crime at least. It created the fondations of what progressive rock truly is.


Unique doesnt mean better.

I like Gabriel's voice better too, but still.
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Of course unique doesnt mean better, i got a unique awfull voice.

Gabriel got a unique beautifull voice. Unique has in, no singers sounds like him.
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^ Although Collins managed to do a decent job of it singing backup, I used to have trouble figuring out who was doing what part in certain songs.
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Quote by Casmin_Fluffer
I like Genesis after Collins stepped up to do vocals. I just like his voice better.

-C_Fluff


agreed.
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I like both "eras" of Genesis with Peter Gabriel as a singer, but I also enjoy the era where Phil Collins was the singer.

Good progressive rock band, but I prefer Yes over Genesis.
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Phil Collins has one of my favorite voices of all time. I dunno why.. I just love his vocals (solo projects included).
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Quote by Casmin_Fluffer
I like Genesis after Collins stepped up to do vocals. I just like his voice better.

-C_Fluff


Have you heard A Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering? I enjoy those albums quite a bit.
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Thanks for the vid link Psychodelia! I first started getting into Genesis right around when "Duke" came out in '80 or so. I didn't even know the Peter Gabriel stuff existed then and didn't start picking up their early albums until I was in college in the late 80s when I got into 70's Prog. Genesis is really 2 totally different bands with the progressive Gabriel material or the more pop oriented Collins lead band. Both are really good in their own respects! I'm more fond of the early material these days: "Trespass" to "Lamb."

And I'll raise you "Suppers Ready"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOMA37tOdXI&search=suppers%20ready
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Just looked through the last 6 pages and noticed there wasn't a thread for this amazing band, so I took it upon myself to make one. All I have to say is that I love Carpet Crawlers and Supper's Ready (which is probably the most epic song ever).
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One of my favorite bands ever. They made some of the best moments in popular music for me.
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I like them better during the Peter Gabriel era.
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^^Same, though some of post-Gabriel is bearable.


That's an understatement, IMO. A Trick of the Tail is an awesome album, though I usually have to be in the mood to listen to Wind & Wuthering. Seconds Out is a great live album, and I think Phil Collins does an excellent job at all the Peter Gabriel songs. I often listen to Invisible Touch more than ...And Then There Were Three... and I think Duke, s/t, and Abacab are excellent albums.

However, I've never heard We Can't Dance or Calling All Stations and I don't plan on giving the latter a try anytime soon.
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Wind & Wuthering does have its moments, though... Afterglow in particular.
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Agreed. Beautiful chorus.
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genesis...wow. im surprised there wasnt a thread for them before now.

i would have to say my favorite album is selling england by the pound. dancing with the moonlit knight is so beautiful. all of that album is good. though. and yes, suppers ready is awesome.
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Foxtrot and Selling England by the Pound are my favourite albums.

and yeah, I'm not a fan of them after Hackett left. which was shortly after Gabriel left.
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Wow. No love for Lamb Lies Down On Broadway...
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its not *bad*. just not my favorite. i will give it another listen soon though
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I'm appreciating the first disc a bit more. Back in NYC and Carpet Crawlers are already big favorites of mine, and I really like Counting Out Time lately, with the distorted riff.
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The title track is great, too.
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It is... I've never really looked much into the "concept" of the album, I should soon.
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Great rock band, but not at all. When I listen some songs I feel bored. Generally Genesis deserves respect
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Hi, i'm looking desperately for the tab of Dancing with the moonlit knight, do you know where to find it?
it's one of the greatest songs by genesis according to me, but i can't find its tab.
Thx a lot!!!
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Hi, i'm looking desperately for the tab of Dancing with the moonlit knight, do you know where to find it?
it's one of the greatest songs by genesis according to me, but i can't find its tab.
Thx a lot!!!
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Quote by psychodelia
Have you heard A Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering? I enjoy those albums quite a bit.

No.
Quote by Muaddib
That, right there, is amazing, absolute blasphemy. Not saying that Collins sings like a cat but man, Gabriels voice is unique. uuuuuunique.



It's a personal preference. /shrug

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^^

NOTE: Genesis threads merged.
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Anyone here see about the three box sets that are coming out. (each one chronicles another era 76-82 is Collins, 70-76 Gabriel, and 83-98 Collins and that other guy that did calling all stations) the only this I don't understand i why they aren't including their first album. anyone have any clues about that??
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I thought Peter Gabriel's solo career sucked major ass. Phil Collins' solo career still kicked just as much ass as when he was in Genesis. The Peter Gabriel era of Genesis was freakin amazing though but so was the Phil Collins era. I get annoyed when people say Phil ruined the band. He actually kept it going. Don't forget he helped write much of the early stuff. If it weren't for him, the Genesis name wouldn't be anything now. Peter also eventually sold out. So basically I think

Peter Gabriel = Phil Collins.

Who else thinks so?
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lol, you say Gabriel = Collins but also say Gabriel's solo career sucked, while Phil's kicked ass?

I will say that I find both solo careers to be a bit inconsistent, but with nice moments in each. Overall I prefer Gabriel's work, but Phil does write some nice pop tunes.

My favorite solo career from an ex-Genesis member is Steve Hackett; he's been constantly pushing his music forward, with some rock and experimental music, as well as a couple of conceptual classical guitar albums, with his latest album integrating some of the orchestral with the rock. The only thing he sometimes lacks is a decent singer, although I think Phil Collins has been on at least one album with him.

Another excellent ex-Genesis work to check out is Anthony Phillip's "The Geese and the Ghost". It's delicate and soothing, and has some contributions from Mike Rutherford and Phil Collins.
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