Can someone just give me a link to these. I found one link, http://www.myguitarsolo.com/sc_symm.htm, but I'm confused because different places have different patterns that all say that are symmetrical scales. From what I gather there are whole half and half whole scales, and those are diminished. Then theres the whole tone scale, then I've also seen augmented. I would like to know more about these scales but I cant seem to find much info or a definitive list of the scale positions.