#1
So what do you guys think of the Refused?

Even though they're on Epitaph, I've always been fond of them. I think they have excellent vocals, and quite creative music.

Never heard anything about them on the forum so i'd thought i'd get your opinion.
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#4
I like his scream a lot. Good band.
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Refused are ****ing awesome

the shape of punk to come owns



I wonder if that has anything to do with the song Shape Of Things To Come by Max Frost & The Troopers.
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#8
^ I think it's more of an adaptation of a phrase more than a specific song which also happens to use that phrase.

I don't think anyone coould put forward a realistic argument for discounting the importance of Refused in the modern punk scene. Hugely influential on so many bands that sound nothing like each other.
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They're OK.


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i heard them like 2 years ago and i was like 'this sucks'
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^ I think it's more of an adaptation of a phrase more than a specific song which also happens to use that phrase.

I don't think anyone coould put forward a realistic argument for discounting the importance of Refused in the modern punk scene. Hugely influential on so many bands that sound nothing like each other.


How exactly are they influental? Not discounting what you are saying, just wondering what you mean.


Such an awesome band. Ive only heard the Shape of Punk to Come, but that album alone makes them one of my favorite bands out there.
#16
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Refused are great, I want to pick up the new DVD but the synopsis on the back doens't look promising, stating that these were the most boring live shows Refused had ever done. Anyone seen it and want to enlighten me?

I downloaded it from a torrent and I quite enjoyed it.
#17
i just got the refused dvd... it was done very well
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How exactly are they influental? Not discounting what you are saying, just wondering what you mean.


Such an awesome band. Ive only heard the Shape of Punk to Come, but that album alone makes them one of my favorite bands out there.



They were the first to do what they did. They've influenced pretty much everything from Post Hardcore and Screamo, to Metalcore and Hardcore music alike. They were a huge groundbreaking band. Look at bands like The Blood Brothers and Fear Before... Without Refused they probably wouldn't sound like they do.
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#20
^ Yeah.

A lot of bands will mention them or thank them if you go onto websites or read the inlays.. The music, the politics, the lyrical style, the principles, the introduction of some rather 'un-hardcore'-like sounds on 'The Shape of Punk To Come'. Maybe not the first to do what they did, but the first to do it on such a big scale, and as such, the band that the music-lovers of the time could get hold of and appreciate. As far as my rather limited knowledge of hardcore goes.
#21
Theyre amazing.
TSOPTC is breath taking.
Also, their older stuff is pretty good too.
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#22
Aye, a very good band. I think I like them more for influencing my favourite bands rather than for their own actual music, though. If they inspired Thrice then that's good enough for me. (They did).

They actually heavily influenced lostprophets' first album and to a lesser extent; their second. I haven't heard their brand new album, but lostprophets - trendy appearance or no trendy appearance - are in fact an excellent band.

Refused seem to get name-dropped a tad too much, though.
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Quote by Manos15
This band is so overrated.


not really if you look at their influence- and if you look at the production and songwriting of the shape of punk to come- if i show that to people who don't know who refused are they assume it's a brand new CD- which i think shows how ahead of it's time it was.
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This band is so overrated.

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#31
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not really if you look at their influence- and if you look at the production and songwriting of the shape of punk to come- if i show that to people who don't know who refused are they assume it's a brand new CD- which i think shows how ahead of it's time it was.


I agree with this, but I think their older cds are more much influencial and actually hardcore then the shape of punk to come. When that cd came out they didn't even consider themselves a hardcore band anymore, nor did they want to play hardcore/punk shows because they became douche's. Oh well.

Songs To Fan at the Flames of Discontent is one of my fav cds of all time
#32
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not really if you look at their influence- and if you look at the production and songwriting of the shape of punk to come- if i show that to people who don't know who refused are they assume it's a brand new CD- which i think shows how ahead of it's time it was.


I agree with this, but I think their older cds are more much influencial and actually hardcore then the shape of punk to come. When that cd came out they didn't even consider themselves a hardcore band anymore, nor did they want to play hardcore/punk shows because they became douche's. Oh well.

Songs To Fan at the Flames of Discontent is one of my fav cds of all time
#33
Refused Is Fucking Dead And I Think That's Fuckin' Rad.

To clarify, I can't stand this band.
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