#1
whats a good for the money Delay pedal?...price under 150..
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#2
i can't recommend a delay (don't have one besides the POD delay) but i hear that analog delay is better. but dont take my word for it
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#4
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Edit: Sorry for spamming earlier. I haven't tried the Line-6 But I do have an AnalogMan modded Boss DD-6 w/ the high cut mod. This is a very versital stomp with a small footprint. It even has reverse delay which is cool for Hendrix type sh1t.

I also have a Guyatone MD3 that I use for slapback delay only. Tiny foorprint and pulls off slapback awsome. only a hundred bucks too.
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#5
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i can't recommend a delay (don't have one besides the POD delay) but i hear that analog delay is better. but dont take my word for it

Yes, analog and tape delays are good for a warm sound, but for a crisp, clear delay, go digital. Best yet, get the Line 6 Echo Park (which I have) and you can simulate either.
#7
I would not suggest the Line 6 Echo Park, as most Line 6 pedals are made very poorly and completely ruin your tone. Considering your price range, analog is pretty much out of the question (with the exception of this: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-AD9-Analog-Delay-Effect-Pedal?sku=150345) Tape is without a doubt unavailable to you. My suggestion for a reliable (although imperfect) delay is the Boss DD-3(http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-DD3-Digital-Delay-Pedal?sku=151310) or the DD-6 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-DD6-Digital-Delay-Guitar-Effects-Pedal?sku=151302). If you want a lot of bells and wistles, Id suggest looking into the Boss DD-20 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-DD20-Giga-Delay?sku=151305)which, which has looping and many other sweet features. Do NOT get the DL-4, as after the first year, it usually starts to fall apart (from what I've heard and read)
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#8
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I would not suggest the Line 6 Echo Park, as most Line 6 pedals are made very poorly and completely ruin your tone. Considering your price range, analog is pretty much out of the question (with the exception of this: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-AD9-Analog-Delay-Effect-Pedal?sku=150345) Tape is without a doubt unavailable to you. My suggestion for a reliable (although imperfect) delay is the Boss DD-3(http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-DD3-Digital-Delay-Pedal?sku=151310) or the DD-6 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-DD6-Digital-Delay-Guitar-Effects-Pedal?sku=151302). If you want a lot of bells and wistles, Id suggest looking into the Boss DD-20 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-DD20-Giga-Delay?sku=151305)which, which has looping and many other sweet features. Do NOT get the DL-4, as after the first year, it usually starts to fall apart (from what I've heard and read)

Well, you've heard and read wrong, trust me, threadstarter, I wouldn't waste my time typing about it if I didn't own one myself.
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#9
Thanks everybody, I'll look into those pedals..

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#11
boss dd-3. Great delay, nice and simple and sounds great, i got one. The Line 6 delay's are quite over-rated IMO, i tried one in my search, they are quite overpriced for what they are and i think Line 6 concentrate too much on emulating other products rather than making their own distinguishable sound. Id say get the original that the the line 6 is based off, the Boss DD-3.
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#12
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Well, you've heard and read wrong, trust me, threadstarter, I wouldn't my time typing about it if I didn't own one myself.


True I didnt own it, but Ive played the echo park and as the above poster said, it is quite overrated. The DL-4 I have also played and it sounded fine, but considering EVERY reviewer thats had it more than a year on harmony central gives it a 1 for reliablity, so Id say its safe to assume that its probably not the best pedal to go for.


EDIT: Also, you assumed I heard and read about the Echo Park, where I have not. That was soley for the DL-4, so no, I did not hear and read wrong, I played it and hated the tone and shoddy craftsmanship. Line 6 in general (exluding a few products) produces badly made items, so my advice would be to avoid Line 6 if you can.
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#13
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True I didnt own it, but Ive played the echo park and as the above poster said, it is quite overrated. The DL-4 I have also played and it sounded fine, but considering EVERY reviewer thats had it more than a year on harmony central gives it a 1 for reliablity, so Id say its safe to assume that its probably not the best pedal to go for.


EDIT: Also, you assumed I heard and read about the Echo Park, where I have not. That was soley for the DL-4, so no, I did not hear and read wrong, I played it and hated the tone and shoddy craftsmanship. Line 6 in general (exluding a few products) produces badly made items, so my advice would be to avoid Line 6 if you can.

I own one. It kicks ass. The DL-4 is just 4 Echo Parks in one package, you probably got a bad one, because I've use a ton of good ones.
#14
Boss made the DD-20 to compete with the DL-6, and the DD-20 just steam-rolled over it. Lots of people switched when the DD-20 came out like Tim Mahoney (311)
#15
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Boss made the DD-20 to compete with the DL-6, and the DD-20 just steam-rolled over it. Lots of people switched when the DD-20 came out like Tim Mahoney (311)

Still, the Echo Park > DD-6.
#16
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I own one. It kicks ass. The DL-4 is just 4 Echo Parks in one package, you probably got a bad one, because I've use a ton of good ones.



If its so good, why have you used more than one? Or rather, a ton? Any more than one would be unnecessary, but seeing as youve used " a ton", they probably werent so good.

And no, if you look at any review site, its unanimous that the dd-6 is better than the Echo Park, not to mention just playing them makes it pretty ****ing obvious.


EDIT: Itd also make your argument stronger if your provided better evidence other than "Echo Park > DD-6", as it makes it clear as day that you have no basis for your statements other than your personal opinion. Opinion, however, is irrelevent when it comes to poorly made pedals, as it is not a subjective topic, but rather objective and concrete.
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#17
So what I get from this is I should try the DD-20 and the Echo Park and choose the one I feel comfortable playin with. Gotcha, Thanks,

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#18
Yes and no, as the Echo Park and DD-20 are not comparable. The DD-6 and the Echo Park are, just as the DD-20 and the DL-4 are as well (although the DL-4 is around 60$ more for relatively the same pedal, just built worse)
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If its so good, why have you used more than one? Or rather, a ton? Any more than one would be unnecessary, but seeing as youve used " a ton", they probably werent so good.

And no, if you look at any review site, its unanimous that the dd-6 is better than the Echo Park, not to mention just playing them makes it pretty ****ing obvious.


EDIT: Itd also make your argument stronger if your provided better evidence other than "Echo Park > DD-6", as it makes it clear as day that you have no basis for your statements other than your personal opinion. Opinion, however, is irrelevent when it comes to poorly made pedals, as it is not a subjective topic, but rather objective and concrete.

I've used more than one because Ilike to try them with other pedals in shops.
I like it because I love the versatility and the clarity of it.

EDIT: When you say "poorly built", do you mean it breaks easily, because its built like a fucking tank, weighing in at something like 5 pounds.
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#21
the line 6 is warmer because it is analog (which is nice)

the Boss is more clear sounding and can emulate analog (which is nice too)

its all a preference
#22
I really need to know which should I buy the Boss dd3, or the Ibanez DE7, cant afford much more than 115 but Id rather just stick with these two. If you have any suggestions email me a at unchained1978@aim.com or aol whichever one it is but I really need to know.
#23
^Aww, you seem so desperate, poor newbie, I'll help you. Get the Boss.
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the weight is irrelevant if the footswitchs fail to work and the wiring is horrible.

Yea, well, like I said, you probably just got unlucky, mine works fine, not the easiest to push down, but neither are stomp switches; its just something you get used to.
#24
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^Aww, you seem so desperate, poor newbie, I'll help you. Get the Boss.

Yea, well, like I said, you probably just got unlucky, mine works fine, not the easiest to push down, but neither are stomp switches; its just something you get used to.


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#26
the Boss, im afraid
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#27
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I would not suggest the Line 6 Echo Park, as most Line 6 pedals are made very poorly and completely ruin your tone. Considering your price range, analog is pretty much out of the question (with the exception of this: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-AD9-Analog-Delay-Effect-Pedal?sku=150345) Tape is without a doubt unavailable to you. My suggestion for a reliable (although imperfect) delay is the Boss DD-3(http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-DD3-Digital-Delay-Pedal?sku=151310) or the DD-6 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-DD6-Digital-Delay-Guitar-Effects-Pedal?sku=151302). If you want a lot of bells and wistles, Id suggest looking into the Boss DD-20 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-DD20-Giga-Delay?sku=151305)which, which has looping and many other sweet features. Do NOT get the DL-4, as after the first year, it usually starts to fall apart (from what I've heard and read)


Line 6 doesn't ruin your tone. The Echo Park delay isn't true-bypass but the DL-4 is. However just because something isn't true-bypass doesn't mean it will ruin your tone, just change it slightly. Your right about the reliability issues.