#1
hey
I just got a new guitar and i relized how ****ty my amp is,,ive been blaming my old guitar,but now there is no excuse

soo i need a new amp and ive decided to go for a tube

any sugestions?

i play a Gibson sg and i will want to spend generally around 400$
my current amp is a crate 120 watt

im going for that rock you like a hurricane sound

any help would be very much usefull
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#2
your not gonna get one for 400 i dont think...

whats wrong with the ds-1 going to the crate?
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#3
the ds1 just dosnt have the sound im looking for ,,
MY GEAR
Marshall 15 watt
Crate 120 watt
Mesa Boogie nomad (head)
OLP guitar mm1
Gibson SG Standard
Acoustic guitar (custom painted)
Boss ds1
Boss t2
Ernie Ball Regular Slinky
#4
put the 400 in your piggy bank and save up, you aren't really gonna get anything real decent for under 800$ range, unless you go used.
#5
hmm...maybe get a ds-2? more eq on it.
if i were you id save up 300 or so more bucks though.
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#6
ok what about a tone bone distortion pedal, its tubed but but do you guys no if its good or not?
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Marshall 15 watt
Crate 120 watt
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OLP guitar mm1
Gibson SG Standard
Acoustic guitar (custom painted)
Boss ds1
Boss t2
Ernie Ball Regular Slinky
#8
i was just looking at that ,,but ive never played it,(sorry im not a guitar god,but learning)
do yall no if its good at all? o ,,and sorry for all the stupid questions
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Marshall 15 watt
Crate 120 watt
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OLP guitar mm1
Gibson SG Standard
Acoustic guitar (custom painted)
Boss ds1
Boss t2
Ernie Ball Regular Slinky
#9
peavey valveking = crap

peavey classic = great

save up like $100 - $200 more and get a peavey classic
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#10
its not crap. its a low end tube amp. but not crap.
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#11
but seriously what about tone bones?
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#12
what about a fender blues jr or an epiphone valve jr?

EDIT: are you selling your marshall and crate, did you include that in the $400? and also a fender pro jr amp
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#13
Peavey Triumph PAG 60 or 120w combo or head, it sounds just like a XXX, the forerunner made in the early to mid 90s. Ive seen them as low as $225 from Daddys Junky Music online used gear site. Shipping may be a problem if youre not in New England.

I dont see many used b/c why would you sell an amp that sounds great like a XXX for next to nothing? I bought mine new in 1993 for $549 and wouldnt consider selling it even if I got something else new.
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#14
The Tone Bone is a good pedal but it's not going to sound as good through that Crate. Check out some Carvin amps. I have the Bel-Air 212 and I absolutely love it.

http://www.carvin.com/

Seriously, check out Carvin amps.
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#15
you could get a used blues jr or something off ebay for 400
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#16
I agree with feedback11, the peavey valve king is a pretty decent tube amp for a low price. i tried one out last week and i was suprised how well it sounded for its price range.
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#17
All you need is a Marshall amp.If it's gibson,defenitly a marshall.We've seen big names playing with gibson guitars and have marshall amp such as Ace Frehley,Angus Young and many more!I recomment you a marshall it's just that they have an excellent overdrive and nice and warm clean sound!
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#18
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I agree with feedback11, the peavey valve king is a pretty decent tube amp for a low price. i tried one out last week and i was suprised how well it sounded for its price range.


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#19
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#20
i dont know.

valve kings arent really traditional tube sound. if ur going that way them maybe just get a different $400 solid state amp, like a randall.

if ur looking for tube sound like marshall tube. ur going to want to save a little more. or find a peavey on ebay or something.

the blues jr is a really nice amp. but the gain isnt there. u would need pedals, and im not sure how loud u need ur amp to be. the jr is only 15tube watts.

traynor blue 50, is supposed to be right up ur alley gain -wise, but they are about a hundred or so more.

(i never got to try the 50, but the 40 had a really nice tone.)
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#21
i just bought a valve king, its great value for a tube amp. the tone is great for your classic rock and heavy rock like guns and roses. the reason why people say its crap is because they are distortion freaks and are very inexperienced players. a good player can make any amp sound good, apart from those practice amps which the tone is just a load of fuzz.

for a low end valve amp i would recommend the peavey valve king or the classic.

Go out and try them out.
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#22
i think he'd do better with a bigger step up from crate.

his ear recognized it as tonally lacking, and altho, i dont think the peavey valve king is crap, it could do well with a speaker change.

he's right under the price range of some really great amps.

maybe it's better to get something thats not going to need to be upgraded for a while.
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#23
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the blues jr is a really nice amp. but the gain isnt there. u would need pedals, and im not sure how loud u need ur amp to be. the jr is only 15tube watts.


only 15 watts of tube power? 15 watts of class A all tube is LOUD.

Anyway, here are your options for 400 dollar or less tube amps.

1. Fender Blues Jr.
2. Peavey Classic 30 (used)
3. Crate v1512

All of them will more than likely not get the gain you're looking for, but there's nothing wrong with throwing a pedal in front of a great clean tone. I own a Crate v1512, and don't let the Crate name scare you. it is a fan-****ing-tastic amp. Go to a guitar center and try them all out.

You other option is to save some more money.
#24
^yeah ive got one and i know how loud it is. but he's been using a crate 120W.

there's no way the jr is as loud. for all i know he's got a full band and plays high gain.


and u cant always throw a pedal in front to gain it up.
Jenneh

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#25
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All you need is a Marshall amp.If it's gibson,defenitly a marshall.We've seen big names playing with gibson guitars and have marshall amp such as Ace Frehley,Angus Young and many more!I recomment you a marshall it's just that they have an excellent overdrive and nice and warm clean sound!


That was a pretty mindless post. Just because big name guitarists use that equipment doesn't mean you have to use it too. Many people use Gibson guitars, but they don't all restrict themselves to Marshall amplification just because the big boys like it.

Try out different types of amps in your price range and choose the one YOU like.

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#27
Second hand classic 30? You could sell your crate and put it towards it. I ****ing love that amp btw


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#28
sell your Crate if you don't like it. then youll have the extra money to get yourself a decent tube amp
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#30
^ the larger ones would work. I know I can get a Traynor YCV 40 for that price, and it kicks ass. All tube, very nice warm sound. Firebird sounded great through one buy parents wouldn't let me get it.
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#31
Let me add the Ampeg Jet and Superjet to the mix Both great amps in the blues jr. range.

If you can find them on ebay you could go with an Ampeg Reverberocket (50w, 2 ch, think hot rod deville) for around $500.
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#32
epiphone valve jr head with the epiphone valve 4 x 12 cabinet. that's a tube half-stack that's within your budget, and since it is not that loud (compared to other tubes), you can easily crank it and get true overdrive.
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#33
Peavey ValveKing head is $500 and the cabinet is like $350

All tube power, great tone ive heard its similar to a Marshall JCM 900 Superlead with a little more gain
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#35
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hey
I just got a new guitar and i relized how ****ty my amp is,,ive been blaming my old guitar,but now there is no excuse

soo i need a new amp and ive decided to go for a tube

any sugestions?

i play a Gibson sg and i will want to spend generally around 400$
my current amp is a crate 120 watt

im going for that rock you like a hurricane sound

any help would be very much usefull



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#36
Sell your Crate and you have some more money, at least 200 more, you might be able to get a B-52 100 watt 2x12 combo. Great amp. I have the halfstack version of it, it kicks ass. And they sound very similar. If you buy the combo, and later you can buy a 4x12 cab and power the cab with the combo.

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