#1
i was gonna get a fender hot rod deluxe but people told me it wasnt good enough for metal even with a good dis. pedal so reccomend me a good one around 600$ loud enough to hear over drums too
#2
peavey xxx or 5150/6505 (maybe used)?
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#4
For that price, a small Peavey XXX combo (Super 40 or 112) would be your best bet.
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do you play dark or bright sounding metal??
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not to sound stupid but do combos sound as good as tubes?


rephrase that question for the sake of it.
#9
take out the not in that and it sounds about right, but seriously if u like metal and junk try a krank, theyre expensive as hell tho
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take out the not in that and it sounds about right, but seriously if u like metal and junk try a krank, theyre expensive as hell tho


Then why would he try one if his budget is $600?

And to answer your question threadstarter, Combos can have tubes aswell. All the amps listed in this thread so far have tubes.
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not to sound stupid but do combos sound as good as tubes?

hahahaha

You don't deserve an amp.

A combo is a power amp and pre amp and speaker in one box, a tubes are vacuum tubes used in the pre and power amps.
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#12
^Yes.

Well ive tried a Blues Jr. (similar to a Hot Rod Deluxe) and it had amazing cleans, but would it do metal? Well tell me how many metal guys who uses Fenders for their hard sound? None and tehres a reason why...

And on tube amps OVerdrives sounds amazing, since they get the tubes to overdrive more and getting more dist, but a Fender with an OD will get good Classic Rock sounds with an OD so then youll need a dist pedal (like a Boss MT-2) but then theres no reason for you to have a tube amp, since dist pedals are SS distortion in a box, bassicly its an SS amp and your amp will sound like an SS one.

Look more for used Peavey 5150/6505 or XXX combos, they will do it!
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#13
^ agreed, gabe. Don't buy a fender unless the heaviest stuff you play is classic rock, IMO.

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#14
Couldn't an attenuator make the tubeamp suitable for more higain distortions?
#15
^No....still, if the gain is not there, more volume will not make it appear. An attenuator will add power tube distortion, which is just a slight overdrive. Very nice, but not high gain.

Like said, go with a used Peavey XXX or 5150, depending on whether you like a slightly brighter or slightly darker tone....
#16
gabe: actually i get a pretty good metal tone out of my blues jr. w/ high output pick ups ans a boost. hell i can do iron maiden well enough with out a boost, and i get a s. anger-ish tone with a boost.

threadstarter: used 5150 combo.
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^No....still, if the gain is not there, more volume will not make it appear. An attenuator will add power tube distortion, which is just a slight overdrive. Very nice, but not high gain.

Like said, go with a used Peavey XXX or 5150, depending on whether you like a slightly brighter or slightly darker tone....



i disagree, slightly. On my engl the powertube distortion means i can play metal (of the not too modern variety) on channel 2 (out of 4). But you're right, it's not going to bump a fender up to, say, killswitch engage levels.

That being said, I thought the hot rod had plenty of gain on the more drive channel. It just sounded like crap, IMO.
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That being said, I thought the hot rod had plenty of gain on the more drive channel. It just sounded like crap, IMO.

Damn right, the Hot Rod's shouldn't even have the OD channels.
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gabe: actually i get a pretty good metal tone out of my blues jr. w/ high output pick ups ans a boost. hell i can do iron maiden well enough with out a boost, and i get a s. anger-ish tone with a boost.


Well i guess thats true of course (i got some nice gain out of it to, very classick rock-ish), but its not a metal amp, and as you said: Pretty good, the 5150/6505 or XXX will have a very good metal tone and is made for metal. Fenders are more for blues, classick rock and clenaer stuff.
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hahahaha

You don't deserve an amp.

A combo is a power amp and pre amp and speaker in one box, a tubes are vacuum tubes used in the pre and power amps.


Not everyone knows all of these things. Stop being a prick.
#21
^Calm down, it was a joke.
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#23
Hey Mate, buy a Marshall MG.

You'll love it, and it serves you right.

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Please don't even joke about this stuff. Sooner or later a noob is actually going to buy one based on bad advice. Some people think that a Marshall stack is a Marshall stack, no matter what model it is.
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because i'm sure some of us believe that plugging a guitar into a vaccuum tube will emit sound...