#1
Hey guys, just joined the forum - hope to stick around.

Right okay, I need to revise my guitar tone - it's just too annoying right now.

My equipment:


-Tokai USG60 (SG body)
-Marshall JCM800 w/ JCM800 bass series cab
-Marshall Jackhammer stompbox
-Zoom 707 digital effects
-Super cry baby wah
-various other axl pedals

D'addario light top heavy bottoms- 10-52 I think
various 2-3mm Jim Dunlop picks



Okay my rig has beeeeauutiful clean tones.. oh man, but the problem is I love heavy metal! I just can't get a decent distortion sound, I love Petruccis distortion (chunky bottom, not too much hissing raw d/s), and right now I'm listening to Symphony X and I'm thinking 'yep, I like this tone.'

What should I do? I've just started writing with a new band and the material is like umm progressive metal I guess, tone isn't cutting it.

I just have this feeling that I have the setup ideal for a totally different genre of music.

Any help appreciated.
#2
no man if you get a OD pedal like a Maxon OD-9 you will get a awesome metal tone
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#3
I´d recommend trying out Line 6 Pod or similar modelling device. Petrucci´s tone may be harder to copy, since his rack is huge and complex and he always uses Mesa Boogies. Michael Romeo also uses Mesa Boogies in studio, but I think he has mentioned something about using Line 6 Vetta amp live...Pods are really versatile and it might do the trick for you..

If you asked me, I would be more than happy with JCM800 and an overdrive pedal.
(I´m broke and only have a VS100R combo and the speaker isn´t working)
#4
So I should get an OD-9.. or? <insert other options here please )


love you people

x

EDIT: Just checked out the Maxon OD-9, for around $150US, I am in the UK - any other options?

thanks again!
Last edited by svenviking at Jul 11, 2006,
#5
Yeah get a Maxon OD-9 and maybe an EQ pedal too.
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#6
I have a marshall Jackhammer - no good? Or is it best for solid state amps?

thanks

EDIT: Hey Tubey, tell me about your setup! I am interested in what you play too! What's the ENGL??
#7
Some metal players use an Ibanez Tube Screamer either the TS-9 or TS-808.

I would probably go with the TS-9 though, considering the TS-808 is the one that Stevie Ray Vaughan used.

...and I don't think you want to play blues.

The TS-9 with all of the knobs cranked will do what you want it to.

Hope I helped, man.
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#8
Mmm awesome thanks guys, I'll admit - I am a self-taught guitarist with no formal discipline, I've had to figure most things out myself and as such when I bought this amp - I didn't really know what I was buying, let alone how to use it.

So any other tips? It's a really basic amp with no built in effects - this is what I have to play with: http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=JCM800&pageType=SEEIT

Any recommended settings?
#9
engls are amps. they're pretty darn good for metal, and other tones too. But unless you want super-modern tones, an overdrive pedal and an EQ should do you fine with that set-up (use the od to boost the overdrive that the amp has).

Are you able to crank your amp? cos that'll help a lot too...
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#10
Id be hard to get a metal tone without a pedal, since Jcm 800s are vintage-like amps
Yeah, get a OD9
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#11
Yeah the way the amp works is that I can crank the preamps and then have the master vol as loud as I want..

Modern tone? What is a super modern tone?
#12
i dunno, say killswitch engage on "rose of sharyn" or "end of heartache". that type of tone.
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#13
Welcome man. I think maybe a Marshall JCM2000 TSL may be good. If you can trade in your JCM800 that is. Its modern but not as modern as what Dave_Mc is talking about with the ENGLs. It can go from heavy, to a nice Marshall crunch, to an awsome clean.
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Welcome man. I think maybe a Marshall JCM2000 TSL may be good. If you can trade in your JCM800 that is. Its modern but not as modern as what Dave_Mc is talking about with the ENGLs. It can go from heavy, to a nice Marshall crunch, to an awsome clean.


I'd probably either keep the 800 for the more vintage tones, or else bite the bullet and go engl/framus/whatever for a more modern amp- IMO, the tsl is too much a jack of all trades (in a bad way). That's just me though.

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#17
Keep the amp and get an overdrive the JCM800 is a great amp.

Why not just spend $150 for a great overdrive and see if you like it rather then trading in your tube amp?

Maxon OD-9 is good. try it