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clay123
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I wish all those virtuosos like Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Yngwie, Rusty, Michael Angelo, ect. would join a band!

I mean just becasue they are so good doesn't mean they are too good to be a in a band with average players.

When I listen to their CDs, I find some of the songs pretty good but most of them boring, and that kind of rock you hear for TV Shows, Sports, ect...
It doesn't seem like their albums are made for listening pleasure, more for like, oh look how good I am.

But wouldn't it be nice if they joined a band, because with their skills it would make it sound awesome, and the solos would be sweet...
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#2
I did like it when Steve Vai was in Whitesnake. But I dunno, I really like a lot of their solo stuff.
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#3
this is the shed forum dude...if you dont like shred then get out
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Excuse me? When did I say I didn't like shred?

Don't be mad just because I made a thread that was slighty negative.
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Quote by clay123
I wish all those virtuosos like Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Yngwie, Rusty, Michael Angelo, ect. would join a band!

I mean just becasue they are so good doesn't mean they are too good to be a in a band with average players.

When I listen to their CDs, I find some of the songs pretty good but most of them boring, and that kind of rock you hear for TV Shows, Sports, ect...
It doesn't seem like their albums are made for listening pleasure, more for like, oh look how good I am.

But wouldn't it be nice if they joined a band, because with their skills it would make it sound awesome, and the solos would be sweet...



doesnt sound like you much of a shred fan to me
clay123
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Quote by splice
doesnt sound like you much of a shred fan to me
I'm not a HUGE fan but you do realize this is also an 80's Rock thread don't you?

And I do love Jason Becker's works and this is the only board for it.
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#7
I would partly agree with clay on this. Now I don't think there is any need for either Vai or Satch or be in a "rock band" 'cos they have been doing their own thing for a good long time now, and they've written some of the most sublime songs I've ever heard... Yngwie is... well at times I feel he could atleast allow some creative control to his other members instead of being a dictatorial composer... in the past it has worked very well for him, but of late his sound has started becoming a lil' stale, now I'm probably a bigger fan of Yngwie than I am of anybody else, but I feel he could do with experimenting writing with the band as a whole as opposed to doing everything himself.

but yea some of the super shredders like Michael Angelo and Rusty Cooley, I guess they could do with forming a band with other musicians not necessarily at par with them on technique with different musical ideas and backgrounds, it'd probably restrict their styles and force them to think differently and apply their techniques in a different musical direction, which might bring forth amazing results.

I say this by a personal precedent - now I don't consider myself to be a big shredder, but I can play a fair few nifty licks - but whenever I am alone with the guitar, I always seem to fall within the trappings of technicalities as opposed to letting the music do the talking. However recently, when I am playing with my band, who are not as technically accomplished as me, but from varying musical backgrounds, and coming with their own ideas and concepts, I have to start thinking differently and at times am forced to tone it down - and this leads to exploring other ways of me contributing to the sound of the band and at the same time trying out something quirky so as to feed my ego and that's a lotta fun, and a learning process at the same time...
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#8
Rusty Cooley is in a power/prog metal band called Outworld. They were supposed to release an album in February but I'm not sure they have.
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#9
^ what i've heard of that album is awesome, im looking forward to it.

Basically, some people want to make instrumental guitar music. Fair enough to them. I really doubt anyone good enough to get an album deal nowadays is really that bothered about showing off on record - thats what vids are for!

I would love to be playing in a band i felt in synch with, but i can't find any, really. Perhaps some they have that problem.

But everyone you've mentioned except Satch was actually in a band! Vai's live band - while supporting Vai as the main player - certainly get more than a cursory glance in the live act. Rusty plays rhythm guitar most of the time in his band - like he should - and he does so admirably. MAB was perfect for Nitro, and so on.

Basically, they've all had bands and some now still have em.

I do think its better for most guitarists to be working in a band situation, but some may feel their calling is instrumental shred, and good luck to em, i say.
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#10
I don't get what you're complaining about. Write them a letter if you so desperately want to, but they're making their music the way they want to and that's exactly what they should do.

And uh, FP, Satch was in Deep Purple for a short while, so yes, he was in a band
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I would have to say Satch and Vai don't need to join a band. What they do may not be everyone's cup of tea but they can write good music. To me, what they do now works quite well.

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#14
Joe Satriani also did something the Rolling Stones too
and Steve Vai was with Frank Zappa and David Lee Roth too before the Whitensake stuff
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#15
Vai replaced Malmsteen in Alcatrazz and learned their entire set in a night and played an amazing show the next day. But really it's an ego thing. Take Ygnwie, Yngwie Malmsteen is essentially a power metal band called "Yngwie Malmsteen". It's not like its Malmsteen playing everything. Same for Satch and Vai but not in the same egoistic sense. Dunno if I'm making sense, it's late.
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Quote by redaxe
Vai replaced Malmsteen in Alcatrazz and learned their entire set in a night and played an amazing show the next day. But really it's an ego thing. Take Ygnwie, Yngwie Malmsteen is essentially a power metal band called "Yngwie Malmsteen". It's not like its Malmsteen playing everything. Same for Satch and Vai but not in the same egoistic sense. Dunno if I'm making sense, it's late.

this guys right , same with the power metal malmsteen thing. Didnt think about it that way before
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#17
Some people probably like the idea of being in charge of how their music is played. They might be called "control freaks" but I understand the thinking: you have an idea of how your music should sound, and don't want to compromise it so that five people can deal with a song.


However, from what I've heard of them, you might be interested in Bumblefoot.
clay123
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#19
Look even though that the virtuosos might be in a band, NAME SOME BANDS THAT ARE SOMEWHAT SUCCESSFUL

And don't say "umm Joe was in Deep Purple!" for a day.....

Get out of denial people
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#20
somehow, i could never see satch in a band. it just doesn't seem like the kind of thing he would do. he was born and raised to play solo, and he sounds perfectly good like this. and besides, if satch joined a band, what would happen to g3?
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#21
Dude, Whitesnake are pretty successful....
I'd consider Luca Turilli a shredder, I'd say he only doesn't have as big a 'shredder' name for himself because he's actually in a band. Same goes for Michael Romeo. John Petrucci?
Or is this just restricted to people whos names are Vai, Satch, Batio, Yngwie and Cooley?
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Quote by clay123
Look even though that the virtuosos might be in a band, NAME SOME BANDS THAT ARE SOMEWHAT SUCCESSFUL

And don't say "umm Joe was in Deep Purple!" for a day.....

Get out of denial people


I've come to the conclusion you don't deserve the music of the people you name.

Leave.
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#23
Ok,NOONE has mentioned Gilbert yet,without a doubt one of the most successful as far as bands go.

Mr.Big-Huge in Japan and Asia and quite popular for a while in the U.S
Racer X-Hugely popular "underground" if you will,metal Band,the inspiration for millions
Countless tribute bands/Collabarations/Guest appearances...

Point proven,at least on him.
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#24
Kotzen - Poison anyone?
Howe - Michael Jackson, Nsync anyone?

Gawd, could go on for days... But the guy wouldn't get it anyway.
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Enrique Inglaisias(sp?)!
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#27
Marty Friedman- Megadeth...
Steve Morse- Deep Purple.

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Clay... You seriously just got owned big time


Now let the cool people talk and listen to them wisemen

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#29
Quote by clay123
Look even though that the virtuosos might be in a band, NAME SOME BANDS THAT ARE SOMEWHAT SUCCESSFUL.


Gee, i guess you're right. All those platinum and gold records don't count for **** - and thats why i have a wall of them, just like Becker, Satch, Vai, Marty...
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#31
Don't forget Petrucci, he's also a virtuoso in a band.

Anyway, I like the instrumental guitar music. If you want to have a band with a virtuoso player, practice 8 hours a day and make one yourself.
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#32
I was waiting to hear Howe's name to be mentioned. He is very popular as a session guitarist.
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Ok where's Impellitteri ?
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Ok where's Impellitteri ?


Perhaps combing his luscious hair?


Or out kicking stray cat's asses.


Gots to be one of those two.
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Perhaps combing his luscious hair?


Or out kicking stray cat's asses.


Gots to be one of those two.


Or practicing making his left hand move LESS.
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didnt satch do a song with spinal tap



yup...there was a bit about that on the satch tapes