#1
I have been playing for two years now and im sick of my ****ty acoustic and cheap squire stratocaster. Ive really fell for the look of the Gibson ES335 / Epiphone Casino style and the sound of such guitars would suit my playing. However, being a lefty, i have few buying options. The best price for a left handed Casino on the net is 520 pounds. The ES335 is considerably more expensive, and im two weeks away from having the funds for the Casino.

What i would like to know is this - is the Casino an overpriced guitar that is merely a posh copy of a ES335, or is it really worth splashing that sort of money on it. Ive played one before and really liked it, however i have played only about 5 average quality guitars so have little to compare it with. Any help at all would be appreciated. I came across these two links while searching...

ES335 - http://cgi.ebay.com/1992-Lefty-left-handed-Gibson-ES-335-Custom-Shop_W0QQitemZ230007726458QQihZ013QQcategoryZ38085QQrdZ1 QQcmdZViewItem

Casino - http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=3002

Id be very happy to buy the Casino, im just concerned im ripping myself off. Thanks for any help...
#3
i dont know but if ur lookin for an AC/DC sound gibson would be your best choice
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#4
I'm wanting am Es 335 too, but when I was looking around I was recommended a Tokai Es 120, maybe you want to consider that too.
#5
Thanks guys.

I have played on a Casino before and i really liked it - thus my interest in it. Im just slightly concerned with the price and the ES-335 idea came into my head when i sat and watched the highlights for T in the Park last night - there were so many ES-335's and i just wondered 'why does no-one play a Casino, its not exactly cheap'.

Referring to styles etc - im really into indie music - Arctic Monkeys, Libertines etc. as well as the stuff the Red Hot Chili Peppers play but i also love classic rock, Jimi Hendrix amongst others.
#7
^He probably won't get the es-335 below 1,500 dollars. Or roughly 800 pounds. + shipping and taxes, landing on the nice sum of 1,200+ pounds. Isn't that roughly the price of a new 335? I'd get the epiphone.
#8
I've tried the Casino and the Es335 copy, the Dot, the Casino was really nice sounding, and best looking of all Epi hollow/semi's, but it feeds back a bit.
The Dot was also nice, but nothing special really, you're best off going for a used Casino.
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#9
Quote by thetoastinator
Well if those are the exact choices, I would go with the ES 335 because its a Gibson (supposedly), and for $610 USD (not sure how that changes into pounds), thats a steal.

The 335 he posted is now at 720 and the reserve is not met meaning he has to pay more, we don't know what the reserve price is on that auction, but I would imagine since the buy it now price is 1,900 it's going to be well over a 1,000 bucks.

To the thread starter, you are aware that a Casino is a full hollow body right? That means the feedback is going to be worse on that than a 335 which has a solid block in the center to reduce the feedback and such. The Epiphone that I would recommend is looking around for a good Dot or Riviera, I wouldn't advise buying off the internet because that could cost you quite a bit I would also advise looking into a Sheraton. Those are good guitars in my experience
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#11
Although i do know that humbuckers are better than P-90's, i dont really know the difference. It appears the ES-335 is out of my price range to be honest. I just wanna be sure that im getting a nice guitar for the money. Once again, thanks very much for all the replies
#12
^^^It's completely opinion on P90's and humbuckers.

And Casinos are really nice guitars, I'm sure you'll be happy!

Just play a few more before you buy, so you can get more of a feel for them and the sound.
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#13
Great! thank you. 2 weeks time i will have the money. I'll check out my two local guitar shops, see if they can get me a deal or something, then i'll resort to the net if thats no good. By the way - this board is excellent.
#14
Do you want a semi hollow or completely hollow?
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#15
oh BTW you said youre a lefty, for symetrical shaped guitars that doesnt really restrict your buying options. its actually pretty easy and cheap to have a right handed guitar converted to a left handed guitar, just get a left handed bridge and a left handed nut and stick it on there.

But in any case i really like ES-335s but they are way too expensive, so id stick with the casino as they are in fact nice guitars.
#16
The only things similar about Dots and Casinos are the shape and woods used; Casinos are hollow with P-90s and 335s are semi with hums. Don't let the "feedback" talk scare you away from buying a Casino. Unless you plan on playing hard rock/metal, the feedback is quite controllable.
#17
Right. Well that's great - all the feedback. Ive made my mind up that im gonna get the Casino. I'll get in touch with my local guitar shops, but does anyone know where i can one for a reasonable price (e.g. less than the £500 that some sites quote). Im also not keen on buying a right handed one and then restringing and messing on with the bridge and stuff, id rather get a lefty even if it means paying more, i just cant seem to find any others than the one in the link in my original post.
#18
Quote by markom89
The only things similar about Dots and Casinos are the shape and woods used; Casinos are hollow with P-90s and 335s are semi with hums. Don't let the "feedback" talk scare you away from buying a Casino. Unless you plan on playing hard rock/metal, the feedback is quite controllable.


i'm looking at buying a casino but have been scared off by feedback talk.. i have no intrest in heavy metal, i play songs by bands like The Who, The Beatles, Oasis, The Rolling Stones, The Arctic Monkeys, The Stone Roses, The Verve, The Kinks, The White Stripes, Led Zeppelin.

All those have a few heavy rock songs.. but i have a perfectly good solid body electric i could use for them.

so should i buy a casino?
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Quote by Saint Lennon
i'm looking at buying a casino but have been scared off by feedback talk.. i have no intrest in heavy metal, i play songs by bands like The Who, The Beatles, Oasis, The Rolling Stones, The Arctic Monkeys, The Stone Roses, The Verve, The Kinks, The White Stripes, Led Zeppelin.

All those have a few heavy rock songs.. but i have a perfectly good solid body electric i could use for them.

so should i buy a casino?

Buy what you want! You can work aroudn the feedback it just takes control of your equipment. Go play them and then decide for yourself. The Beatles and Oasis both used Casinos so it's up to you.
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#21
Quote by jameshammond
Right. Well that's great - all the feedback. Ive made my mind up that im gonna get the Casino. I'll get in touch with my local guitar shops, but does anyone know where i can one for a reasonable price (e.g. less than the £500 that some sites quote). Im also not keen on buying a right handed one and then restringing and messing on with the bridge and stuff, id rather get a lefty even if it means paying more, i just cant seem to find any others than the one in the link in my original post.

You could save some money if you get an american one and get it shipped to wherever you are. They're like $600 here. You could save about 50 Euros.
#22
Quote by Saint Lennon
i'm looking at buying a casino but have been scared off by feedback talk.. i have no intrest in heavy metal, i play songs by bands like The Who, The Beatles, Oasis, The Rolling Stones, The Arctic Monkeys, The Stone Roses, The Verve, The Kinks, The White Stripes, Led Zeppelin.

All those have a few heavy rock songs.. but i have a perfectly good solid body electric i could use for them.

so should i buy a casino?

We play very similar styles of music. The Casino fits the bill for most of those bands, maybe not the Stripes' fuzzier stuff or Zep's heavy stuff, but you've got other guitars for that. Go for it
#23
Quote by Cadd99
You could save some money if you get an american one and get it shipped to wherever you are. They're like $600 here. You could save about 50 Euros.


That would be a grand idea, however i cant seem to find a lefty from America and as ive said, im loath to buy a righty and start messing on with it. An American import does seem the best option regarding price though. Cheers