#1
So yeah...I've been playing for 2 years, blah blah blah, cnan play DECENTLY, not real real good though, y'know. THeres a bunch of stuff i dont know about my guitar...or amp...or music in general. I'll spare the rest of the details.

Ok, first of...scales. What would be some good scales to learn to improve metal solos? Or is it not even that important?

Is music theory really neccesarry?

Does the amount of time a note can be held (without it fading into other notes, or just fading out) depend on guitar or skills? (techniques?)

Is there a book or something that could be obtained that could show...the details of amps, guitars, whats what?

When i hear solos, they seem to grow louder in volume. IS this because of some studio affect, or is there something...else?

(i must seem so stupid...)

Thanks for your help, everyone
#2
Quote by deformity
So yeah...I've been playing for 2 years, blah blah blah, cnan play DECENTLY, not real real good though, y'know. THeres a bunch of stuff i dont know about my guitar...or amp...or music in general. I'll spare the rest of the details.

Ok, first of...scales. What would be some good scales to learn to improve metal solos? Or is it not even that important?

Is music theory really neccesarry?

Does the amount of time a note can be held (without it fading into other notes, or just fading out) depend on guitar or skills? (techniques?)

Is there a book or something that could be obtained that could show...the details of amps, guitars, whats what?

When i hear solos, they seem to grow louder in volume. IS this because of some studio affect, or is there something...else?

(i must seem so stupid...)

Thanks for your help, everyone


For the solo they almost always use some kinda volume booster pedal, or some overdrive/distortion pedal
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#3
1. try the box, evry one starts out with that one, if you know it already try phryian scale, i heard thats good for soloing
2.it depends on the quility of your guitar, some guitars have better sustain, most of the higher quility guitars have better sustaine
3.i is just knowledge of the instrument, you can learn from friends, websites, ect. i dont know any exact book that comes to mind that goes over that, just learn over time, cant really help with that one
4. it could be that they might be playing softer in the beginning, then play harder to make it sound louder, it also could be an EQ thing, or they could just turn up with amp, ,or knob on guitar as they are playing to get that effect
#4
from what i gather metal uses a lot of minor and phrygian, but not exclusively. i would say it is more important that you are coordinated enough to pull off decently fast scales than to memorize every one. but do know them, even if you dont have E Phrygian down to muscle memory.

it is not necessary, but half of the guitarists that call themselves 'musicians' have no musical knowledge whatsoever. musical knowledge and musicianship often go hand in hand.

sustain is heavily dependent on your gear, but every sound you make is affected by how you touch it.

theres a wealth of knowledge in columns, and more in the Gear and Accessories forum. check the stickies and whatnot.

usually they are louder for 2 basic reasons. first, so they cut through the 'mix' better. it gets your attention and you tend to feel it more if its in the foreground of the sound. also because when you boost it by say kicking in an overdrive pedal, it gives you more sustain and more singing tone, which makes it sound better and more satisfying.
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#5
"DECENTLY" and you dont know if theory is important?
you sound to me like a retard who can play sweet child o mine and think your great.
Metal solos tend to exagerate the aeolian mode, which is the natural minor sound. but theres always exceptions, Triviums Pull Harder.... has a diminished scale in it, while Kirk Hammetts regarded as only using Pentatonics in his stuff.
The DURATION of a note depends both on skill and on the effect your using. you have to hold it down and vibrato it, whilst muting the other strings to make it ring the most i've found.
as for the last point about solos growing louder in volume, i think it's just you. or some certain songs, which one exactly?
#7
dont be a dick henza.

i know people that are surprisingly fast with their fingers, but they have little idea what they are doing musically. but someone that doesnt know their circle of fifths doesnt make them a bad player.


threadstarter, just look up information like mad on this site, there is a LOT you can learn here.
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#8
ixgue-yeah thanks, i kinda figured...just wanted to be sure. I already have a metal distortin pedal (i plays da death metal), so i dont know if an overdrive pedal would help that much...

the_man-thanks. I will have to ask around then, but will hopefully understand (at least enough). Thanks for the names of the scales, I fond a decent site that has said scales (and others).

boardsofcanada(eh?)-thanks, thanks. More scales to look up (this all should help alot). I remember that who showed me the basics telling me that it isnt neccesary, but I'm still a bit uncertain...would there be any new techniques that i could learn in taking up music theory etc.?

henzax-such nice people here. I had known about the vibrato with the muted strings, but i had been wondering about an individual note with no change in tone (just kinda holding it there with the muted strings, ya' know?). Well, theres a bunch of death metal bands whove I've noticed with the "louder volume" solos, so thats why i asked. (chances are I'll be investing in a volume pedal soon).

Berylstrat-thanks for letting me know about harmonic minor. I've already learned the first part of it.

Canadaboards (again)-I will look it up later. Now, its 2 and i should get some rest for what is needed to be done later (in the day).

Thank you all

-deformity
#9
Why do people try to sound good by using technical words, only to spell it wrong, get it right or dont try it, or maybe put a (sp?) next to it. The_man101 dont you mean phrygian instead of phryian?
And to answer your questions Deformity...
1) There are a bunch of lessons on this site about how to do good solos, in all styles, and there are scale lessons. I suggest you just look around there.
2) Music theory can be necessary if you are uncomfortable with playing by ear. I am learning it so i can master solos/scales/the fretboard ect. A lot of great players use theory, some are just naturally genius'.
3) This depends, are you talking about holding a note then not playing another? If so i suggest you slightly bend it up/down until it fades for effect. If your talking about letting a note ring whilst you play others, i would say technique. Obviously you cant play another note on that string or it will disappear, but you can play notes then re-pick it and make it discreet.
4) Hundreds of websites will show you the necessary knowledge and advanced knowledge of a guitar and amps.
5) I dont quite understand how they could get louder constantly but they can be louder suddenly compared to the rest of the song due to pedals/studio track levels.
#10
Thank you slash. And i do enjoy by ear, actually. I've been playing 2 years, thats how i know how to play. Meh, i might learn composition....I will look around the sight when i can though. Thanks