#1
Well after lots of hard work and saving I finally went out and bought my new RG2550E today. It's my first good guitar and I was really pleased with it. I took it to my guitar tutor today for my guitar lessons so he could show me how to restring it right and stuff (never had a double locking bridge before). And he got the action and great and tuned it and stuff.

But now when I got home an hour or two ago I checked the tuning of it on my electrical tuner (because my gutair tutor tunes by ear) and all the strings we're perfectly in tune releative to each other but were kind of inbetween standard and a semi tone down. Me in my usual attempts decide to try and get it all in standard. But now after fiddling. The action is high, the tremelo arms is low (because the back of the trem is high) so it gets stuck on the volume nob and it's hardly even more in tune and goes out sometimes. Arghh what the hell did I do I spent half an hour trying to do it and I screwed it all up. I have no idea in hell how to work this. The fine tuners just seem to change the tuning but then the tuning goes back down when I take me fingers off the fine tuner. And now it's plays loads crapper. Can anybody help me here please. the instruction manual confused me.
#2
there should be two bolts on the whammy plate that will lower the action. to tune it, just remove the locks on the nut if it's a locking nut, and tune it regularly, then put on the locks again and check the the tuning, then use the fine tuners to get it final.
#4
all i gotta Say is That Sucks.. By the way reall nice guitar u got...i would say u should proably ask ur tutor to tune it and everything for u because electric tuners can sometimes be wrong. so better to tune by ear.
#5
Strings will go out of tune for maybe a day after you put them in. They need to stretch a bit
#6
Strings strech, also, thats why you have fine tuners dude....

Take it to a pro if you can fix it before you **** it up.
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#7
are u saying the bridge is lifted?

if so u need to level it before u can fix the action.
thats done on the back of the guitar. repost if u want to try urself.
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#8
Take it to Guitar Center, By buddy has a Dimebag Sig with a Floyd and a locking nut, the guy set it up, it plays really well, but it's not going to stay intune for ever, he told me he tunes it atmost once a week.
#9
Yeah I live in britain so no guitar centers near in the country :S. I lvoe playing guitar and just want to be able to play. And I'm not going to be able to for like a week unless I get this sorted because that's the next time I can get it to a pro or so called.
#10
Quote by jj1565
are u saying the bridge is lifted?

if so u need to level it before u can fix the action.
thats done on the back of the guitar. repost if u want to try urself.


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#12
ok if ur bridge is lifted, then flip over the guitar and look in here...



tighten the two screws in ther until the bridge is level again.
that should also help with ur action problem, and ur ability to tune it.

try and repost.

http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/floydrosetremolo.htm
a good site, talks about levelling a bridge.
Jenneh

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#13
I have an RG320, yea its lower in quality but I also know what a pain in the ass to tune, and especially to make the floyd level with the guitar, and the action right.

Do you mean lifted as in its tilted towards you? or its just really high? like a gap between the floyd and the guitar.

If its tilted, then it needs to be level with the guitar.

Basically remove the locking nuts, and tune it to EADGBE...or whatever you want. Since its a floating tremelo you may have to tune it 5 or 6 times. The tighter you make one string, the lower all the others go. So you learn to tune the thicker strings more sharp, so when the lower strings get tighter, they get closer to tuned.

Once you get this, adjust the rose by turning the screws on the backside of the guitar, in the compartment where the springs are. Turn in increments of 1/4 of a turn if its close. You may need to loosen the strings, and do a couple turns apiece and get it close. But you'll need to retune it again.

Once its close, turn the screws in increments of 1/4. Clockwise if you want the float tilting towards the inside of the guitar, and counterclock wise if it needs to be tilted more out.


I know mine is a lot more cheap then yours, but hopefully that may help some. If you knew all that alright the just ignore me. floydrose website also has good instructions on setting these up, and you can use them.
#14
Ack I've been tinkering witht his for over 3 hours and all it seems to get is worse. Ack I can't believe I couldn't even tune a guitar. Ack I'm really pissed off. Hell knows the next time I'm gonna be near a specialist and I'm gonna have to give up my guitar playing until then. Damn it... I couldn't be any more pissed off than I am now.
#15
Quote by WillaimC
Take it to Guitar Center, By buddy has a Dimebag Sig with a Floyd and a locking nut, the guy set it up, it plays really well, but it's not going to stay intune for ever, he told me he tunes it atmost once a week.


Thats bull****. Your friend has a crappy liscnesed floyd rose.......i havent tuned my ibanez in like a month at least, and it hasnt gone out of tune a bit, and i abuse my bar every day.
RIG
Jackson SL3 Soloist
89' Ibanez RG570
Vader 4x12 Cabinet
Line 6 HD147 Head
6space HEAD/RACK case
Korg DTR1000 Rack Tuner
Furman Power Conditioner
ISP Decimator
#16
Ur problem just seems simple, ur tutor tune by ear, and u want to make it more accurate by tuning it using a tuner. It'll just take a couple of twists on the tuners and you'll mess up all the strings' tuning (on floyd rose type bridge). Try this please, and be patient.

Tuning Floyd Rose:
1) Loosen the locking nut
2) Set your fine tuners to middle position
3) Tune up your guitar to standard or whichever tunings u wish. "Cross-tuning" between strings if you want easier. Tune the low E string> A string> low E string again> D string> low E string>A string... and so forth. Keep repeating for all strings. To make it more easier, tune the low E generally a bit sharper or about half step sharper, so that you might not have to repeat crossing the strings again and again.
4) If the floating bridge comes out, loosen the tunings and then tighten the springs in the tremolo cavity at the back, if the bridge sinks, then vice-versa, until the bridge is parallel to the body.
5) Be patient
6) If you're happy with your tunings and your bridge is well centered, lock in the nut
7) Tune again using the fine tuners

Also some tips - You might want to have at least 3 springs and after following the tuning method above, tighten the 2 claw's screw for about 1/8th or 1/4th more. This is to prevent your floating bridge from getting stuck to the knife edges on the posts (action studs) after you bend notes. You can ignore this if your bridge/trem is reliable (e.g. Edge Pro, Edge, ZR, Lo-Pro Edge, Original Floyd Rose, Licenced Floyd Rose by Kahler/Schaller/Gotoh). But still you may face this problem even if your bridge is very good.

Stretch the strings first if they're new

More info on tuning floyd roses - http://www.floydrose.com/originaltremolo.html
Info on changing strings - http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/columns/features/steal_this_video_re-stringing_guitar.html
Picture guide on how to perform the #4 step mentioned above - http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/floydrosetremolo.htm
http://www.jemsite.com/tech/1setup.htm#step1


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#17
Quote by DaliLama
I would take it to a music store before you f u c k it up for good!


He might be right. But, the strings are still stretching if you just got them put on.
Why didn't you take it back to your guitar teacher? DUH!
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#18
Quote by ClassicAxe
Thats bull****. Your friend has a crappy liscnesed floyd rose.......i havent tuned my ibanez in like a month at least, and it hasnt gone out of tune a bit, and i abuse my bar every day.


HELLZ YEAH! My ibanez is good. For that price, it oughta be!
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