#1
Hi, not sure if this should go here or in the Electric Guitar forum, but anyway...

Can someone tell me
a) which of these two would be more effective at keeping a Strat in tune (I use my vibrato bar a lot...),
b) the rough price decent ones of each come at,
c) how difficult it is to install them and
d) recommended brands.

Thanks!
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#2
id say a locking nut, the floyds cost like 40$ i think and im guessing 20$ or 30$ to install because it involves drilling into the neck
#3
You don't really need a bunch of added on junk to keep a Strat style trem in tune. I have an old strat, and i have 5 springs in it and it never goes out of tune. Just make sure your string saddles and nut slots are clean and smooth.
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You don't really need a bunch of added on junk to keep a Strat style trem in tune. I have an old strat, and i have 5 springs in it and it never goes out of tune. Just make sure your string saddles and nut slots are clean and smooth.


if you use a lot of wammy bars and such clean smooth nuts and saddles will help but will not guarentee no string slipage. locking nuts roller nuts or locking tuners will really help
#5
OK, thanks for the help.

You don't really need a bunch of added on junk to keep a Strat style trem in tune. I have an old strat, and i have 5 springs in it and it never goes out of tune. Just make sure your string saddles and nut slots are clean and smooth.


I do have five springs tightened nearly all the way up and the nut's got graphite in it, but the tuning's still often a little way off on the high e and b.

id say a locking nut, the floyds cost like 40$ i think and im guessing 20$ or 30$ to install because it involves drilling into the neck


Thanks for the advice but I hate the tone/lack of tone you get on guitars with locking nuts, and I'm a bit of a tone freak Plus, I don't really want to be drilling holes in my guitar!
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#6
i use locking tuners for all of my guitars even the non trem ones, they work great. I reccomend Sperzels.
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what tone loss i dont notice tone loss with a Locking nut
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#8
Whoever is suggesting a locking nut on a guitar without fine tuners at the bridge is smokign rope. That's a ridiculous idea, because you then have to release the lockign nut to tune your guitar.

A combination of lockign tuners and a roller nut would be the best option. The locking tuners will prevent any string slippage at the tuning post, and the roller nut will eliminate any resistance the string encounters at the nut. That will help with tuning a lot.

However, the only way you'll keep the guitar 100% in tune 100% of the time while using the trem is to also swap the trem for a locking model. This doesn't necessarily mean a Floyd though. Wilkinson make awesome Strat bridge that locks the strings at the bridge. Combine that with locking tuners and a roller nut and you'll have the tuning stability of a full Floyd Rose system,
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#9
I think all you need is a good set of locking tuners. I have Schaller lockers, a Graphtech nut, and Graphtech saddles on my Strat, and it stays in tune very well. I know the Schaller bolt right up with the MIA strat since they put them on the deluxe, but I'm not positive about the MIM.
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#10
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what tone loss i dont notice tone loss with a Locking nut


Yeah they do... It's 'coz a lot of what effects the tone comes from the way the strings vibrate slightly behind the nut, which is why six-a-side headstocks have string trees; the steeper the angle of the string over the nut, the better the tone. Guitars with locking nuts don't allow that vibration and so lose out on that aspect of the tone.

I may be completely wrong about that, but I'm sure I read it somewhere.
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#11
But can the guitar still go out of tune from the trem even with locking tuners?
I heard that the strings will be slightly sharp after divebombing and slightly sharp after pulling it up. The way to fix it is to slam it the other way.