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#1
ok looking to buy a Valve Amp for Bout £600 i bean lookin at the Engl Screamer 50 and the Marshall TSL601 i play A7X, Trivium, Metallica, Ozzy, Led Zepp, Muse(i think matt uses an engl in supermassive blackhole video) Gnr which would suit me best cheers
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#2
i would seriously consider the ENGL. I would prob get that if I had any money.
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#3
Hey!
Matt and corey from trivium use marshall dsl 100
The guys from avenged sevenfold use bogner ubershall
Zakk wylde from ozzy's band uses his own signature marshall jcm 800
Not shure about what metallica uses.
It all comes down to what particular tone you are looking for but between the 2 model i'd go with the engl.
#5
I would go for the ENGL, try them out (or at least see if you can try the Marshall ) and see if you like the Marshall, if you don't love it go for the ENGL.
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#7
Engl Thunder would eat them all out of the water, I really don't like JCM 2000s - they're just so mediocore
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#8
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#9
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Depends, new Metallica = Diezel VH4


true, and also a Randall (as a slave-out I believe).
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Depends, new Metallica = Diezel VH4

no, kirk still uses a recto. and that's live. in the studio they track hundreds of amps )especialy on load and re-load), what gets put on the final mix they dont even know some times.

amps on st. anger
dual recto
deizel vh4
deizel herbert
mesa mark IV
mesa mark III
mesa mark IIIC+
peavey 5150
modded peavey 5150
other various mesa's
other various marshalls
mix of different tubes, settings, and cabs.

so limiting them down to one amp is a retarded thing to do.
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#11
hmmmm, alot of the bands u mentioned use marshalls or amps based on marshalls, ive never tried an eng so i cant really say anything, but i own a TSL100 and love it, it can do rock and metal plus 3 channels is never a bad thing
#12
its a matter of which you prefer in the end. obviously all the fan boys will jump at the engl, and so would i, but its a matter of which you prefer. the issue with the marshall is...well it sounds like a marshall. the marshall tone is very popular and very subjective. so try and ye shall recieve.
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#13
Dirt Joe: what i said for metallica goes for most profesional bands.

they track several amps in the the stuidio. not to say theres not a dominate tone in the mix, but there's usually at least 2 different voicings per guitar going on. but they have a favorite for live use.

Joel: personaly, i hate marshall tone for high gain. but for crunch, i love it.
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#14
derek: i like the 'high' gain because you get a bit of a crunch with it. gives those chords a punch.

i like bands using a DSL and a recto side by side. sounds sweet and really fills out.
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#15
eh, marshalls just don't have enough definition and attack for me at high gain levels.

powerball and uberschall
or
powerball and 5150

now thats tone to kill.
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#16
framus cobra for me. dark, not too dark, just dark enough. like a recto with bigger balls.
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#17
Id have to say im now in love with my TSL.

It completly rapes the XXX, like, anally rapes it.
#18
wow. anal rape. i prefer the DSL, but thats just me.
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#19
cheers ill have to try and try out the engl
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#20
cheers ill have to try and try out the engl
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#21
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framus cobra for me. dark, not too dark, just dark enough. like a recto with bigger balls.


Yeah, I much prefer Framus for dark tones - I'm just really not into the recto.
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#22
try them both out, to be honest. I haven't tried the thunder, that might do what you want.

Problem is, while I think the engls are better than those marshalls, most of those bands use marshalls...

look into some laneys too- the tt50 combo, mainly.
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#23
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Id have to say im now in love with my TSL.

It completly rapes the XXX, like, anally rapes it.

i'd aslo have to say that you didn't know how to work an eq forever.
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#24
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no, kirk still uses a recto. and that's live. in the studio they track hundreds of amps )especialy on load and re-load), what gets put on the final mix they dont even know some times.

amps on st. anger
dual recto
deizel vh4
deizel herbert
mesa mark IV
mesa mark III
mesa mark IIIC+
peavey 5150
modded peavey 5150
other various mesa's
other various marshalls
mix of different tubes, settings, and cabs.

so limiting them down to one amp is a retarded thing to do.



Wow, quite phenomenal losers to have equipment only people could dream of, then make one of the greatest disasters in the history of mankind!

Well done James and Kirk (and Bob C0ck), i salute you for your shear stupidity, making Mesa's and Diezels sound like a fat man was sitting on them.
#25
actually, the tone on st. anger kicks ass, it's the same ****ing tone you, and 99% of other people here drool over. and i quite like the album in general.
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#26
It was an ok album, I do love the tone and it might have been a good album in someone elses hands but it's just not Metallica and I think that's why people didn't like it very much. I could listen to it, but like I said it's not my fav.
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#27
that's usually everybody's excuse, zomg it doesn't sound like metallica!

ok, does it have to? are bands not allowed to try something new?

i mean christ everbody complains that everything sounds the same and their tierd of the same old sound but then when a band tries to re-invent itself everbody pisses them selves and badmouths it because 'it's not classic metallica.'
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#28
no it really is a shïtty album - like i give a crap about chage, they're terrible now - "im so angry!" - they SUCK live now too, it's just boring as hell and scary to see them - just look at how gay lars, james, and that monkey are
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#29
It's not that they changed the sound, it's that they sounded like a completely different band. I don't care that they want to try something different, but it just didn't seem right to me. I'm not even that big of a 'Tallica fan anyway so it doesn't bug me really at all, but I can see where some people would flip out....
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#30
Hmmmmm well listen to the lead tones on Some Kind of Monster. Erugh!

We need someone like Bonamassa with his Budda's. Thats valve tone for ya!
#31
haha my thread about engl and marshalls has turned into a St Anger thread i like it lol
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#32
I'm listening to St. Anger this second, I thought the guitars sounded great, punchy; The only thing I didn't like as much was Lars' drums, but they're not as bad sounding as everyone says.
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#33
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It's not that they changed the sound, it's that they sounded like a completely different band. I don't care that they want to try something different, but it just didn't seem right to me. I'm not even that big of a 'Tallica fan anyway so it doesn't bug me really at all, but I can see where some people would flip out....




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#35
i dont mind lol its funny
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#36
i think i need to try the engl and the marshall first and see which one i like best anyway back to st anger :P
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#37
Lol, sure we did. We have nothing better to do than troll the posts we have posted in and jump the gun when it's time to go crazy!!!
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#38
dave: i'm way to opinionated to pass up an argument.

bobman: i'd persoanly go with the ENGL, as channel 3 on the screamer sounds marshall-esque. it's still an ENGL though.
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#40
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ENGL Ftw

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