#1
Hello. I have just recently bought an american SSS strat.

I've been thinking of getting a humbucker installed in the bridge, but im kinda hesitant about it right now. I really like the bite i get from the singlecoil in my bridge, and don't feel like changing that particular one. So my only other option would be getting a humbucker in the neck, seeing as how the strat is only routed HSH. But i don't know where i could get a pickguard which has been cut out to fit a SSH setting. Now, would it be a smart thing to do? Would it sound good? Coz i really want a humbucker in the neck to fatten up the good rythm tone, coz to my mind, the lead tone should be sharp and edgy (ie singlecoil), while the rythm should sound fat and warm.

So is this possible? Getting a SSH configuration? Im tempted to try out a gibson burstbucker in the neck, hehe..
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#3
^so much work...
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Mesa/Boogie F-50 Combo
#4
Quote by refgerto
^so much work...

yeah but you can get best of both worlds with it
#5
Hmm, i dunno.. What kind of pickup would be good for coil splitting?
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Mesa/Boogie F-50 Combo
#7
Everything from blues to metal. Mostly hard rock and classic rock though.
Well, just to be like everyone else, here's my rig:

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Washburn J28SDL

Mesa/Boogie F-50 Combo
#9
^yea get a stacked pup, humbucker sound but size of a single coil
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#10
I dunno what that is? Hot rails? Aren't those the singlecoils that are supposed to sound like humbuckers?

Edit: Okay, i'll ask at my local shop. Thanks ppl
Well, just to be like everyone else, here's my rig:

Fender American Stratocaster
Epiphone Les Paul Custom
Washburn J28SDL

Mesa/Boogie F-50 Combo
#12
Okay thanks. And the hot rail will sound like a GOOD humbucker, not just a cheap transistor copy or something?
Well, just to be like everyone else, here's my rig:

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Washburn J28SDL

Mesa/Boogie F-50 Combo
#14
I meant it as a comparison to the tube/transistor technology thingy. I mean, transistor is the newer technology, but the old technology has proven to be the better one. You know ?
Well, just to be like everyone else, here's my rig:

Fender American Stratocaster
Epiphone Les Paul Custom
Washburn J28SDL

Mesa/Boogie F-50 Combo
#15
Quote by refgerto
Okay thanks. And the hot rail will sound like a GOOD humbucker, not just a cheap transistor copy or something?



hot rail sound like hot singles.

if i wanted a humbucker, i would look and see what the routing is like under the guard, and i would buy a humbucker.
guards can be cut, and im sure if u looked there's a humbucker/neck guard around.

ive got a stacked YM from dimarzio in my strats neck its very bassy, maybe its what ur looking for.
ive got some low gain clips in my sig.
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#17
Quote by jj1565
hot rail sound like hot singles.

if i wanted a humbucker, i would look and see what the routing is like under the guard, and i would buy a humbucker.
guards can be cut, and im sure if u looked there's a humbucker/neck guard around.

ive got a stacked YM from dimarzio in my strats neck its very bassy, maybe its what ur looking for.
ive got some low gain clips in my sig.


yeh but usually now usually most u.s.a strats are routed h/s/h so its possible to have s/s/h just dunno about the looks and you can get a humbucker in that config. probably from stew mac or warmoth if not you coulld try to make your own.
#18
Quote by refgerto
Hello. I have just recently bought an american SSS strat.

I've been thinking of getting a humbucker installed in the bridge,


STOP. Before proceeding, you must realize that by modifying a genuine American Strat you are killing its value. If you still want to modify it, you can get a single-coil sized humbucker, as has been mentioned, and keep your old bridge pickup to put back in before selling the guitar (if you ever do). But, from seeing your sig, I think you should just put a good bridge humbucker in the Epi and call it a day. Unless you're playing live, it doesn't matter that it's all on one guitar.
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#19
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STOP. Before proceeding, you must realize that by modifying a genuine American Strat you are killing its value. If you still want to modify it, you can get a single-coil sized humbucker, as has been mentioned, and keep your old bridge pickup to put back in before selling the guitar (if you ever do). But, from seeing your sig, I think you should just put a good bridge humbucker in the Epi and call it a day. Unless you're playing live, it doesn't matter that it's all on one guitar.


STOP. you can get all your pickups installed on a different pickguard so you can easily change between the two if need be.
#20
Wait a minute. Modifying the strat will actually decrease its value? But it will be okay if i save the pickguard and the pickups, right? So i can install them later again if i want to sell the guitar? Right?

Thanks for all the answers btw. I think i'll buy a new pickguard and modify it to accomodate a humbucker in either the bridge or the neck. Maybe both, and get a coil split switch
Well, just to be like everyone else, here's my rig:

Fender American Stratocaster
Epiphone Les Paul Custom
Washburn J28SDL

Mesa/Boogie F-50 Combo
#21
(1) Modifying a Strat voids the manufacturer's warranty. That's a more important consideration, IMO, than its value. Most people buy guitars to play them and have them for a while rather than considering them an investment.

(2) azn_guitarist is correct. You can just build a new pickguard assembly and leave the factory one in tact.

(3) I have a DiMarzio Chopper in a H-S-H config American Standard Strat and the Chopper keeps up volume and tone-wise with the 2 full-size high output humbuckers I have. If installed in the neck, it will sound like a moderate output, fullsize humbucker (IMO)


(4) If you want a custom pickguard, try Warmoth. (www.warmoth.com) They ship internationally and they will route a pickguard any way you want it. If you want to build a Strat with P-90s, they'll do it. They have some really funky colors available, too.

(5) If you get a custom 5 way switch, you can automatically get coil splitting. On my guitar, I get coil splitting in the 2 and 4 positions, giving it the nasal Fender sound, but 1, 3 and 5 are pure balls-to-the-wall.
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#22
Thanks dirk

But i don't understand fully how coil splitting works.. The coil switch has two settings, on and off, and when its on, you get the equivalent of 5 singlecoils? When its off, you get two humbuckers and one singlecoil?

And how does it work with the 5 way pickup switch? When its in 5th all the way to the bottom of the guitar, and the coil splitting is on, you get the sound of two singlecoils chiming together?
Well, just to be like everyone else, here's my rig:

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Epiphone Les Paul Custom
Washburn J28SDL

Mesa/Boogie F-50 Combo
#23

I apologize for my Paint "abilities."

Ok...well, it all depends on how you wire it. For example, in a PRS McCarty, there is one push-pull pot for coil splitting and a three way switch. With that setting, when you pull out the pot, it shuts the inside coils on the pickups off, so you essentially have a guitar with 2 single coils, and then the pickup selector works as normal (bridge-both-neck).

With my guitar, it's a little more complicated. I have an aftermarket switch manufactured by AllParts that has 20 different connections rather than 8 on a standard Stratocaster switch. With a four conductor humbucker (which most aftermarket humbuckers are) you essentially have available to you the hot and ground wires to each single coil in the humbucker. With my switch, you wire the ground and hot from each together, then solder it to the switch. Then you take the remaining hot and ground and wire it to the appropriate place on the switch. When I put it in position 2, for example, the switch shuts off the two inner coils on my bridge and middle pickups, giving me a traditional single coil sound.

For a diagram of my layout, go here: http://www.dimarzio.com/media/diagrams/B.pdf

As far as the 5 way switch, on a traditional Strat 1 is the bridge, 3 is the middle, and 5 is the neck. It's the same exact thing on my guitar, except that in positions 2 and 4, I get coil splitting. It sounds a lot more complicated than it is. It's something, really, that is better suited for description by diagram.
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#24
I'm thinking a coil-split is your best bet. Sure, it'll take some work installing, but if you take it to a shop, you won't have to do any work, and it'll be done by a pro. When I was a guitar n00b, I brought in my crappy old strat and got a humbucker installed in it's bridge, and it cost less than $50.
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#25
Ah, thanks guys. Ill just ask my guitar teacher to walk me through it so i can learn how to do it though. Doesn't sound like too much work How long do you think it would take from start to finish if i had all the right components?
Well, just to be like everyone else, here's my rig:

Fender American Stratocaster
Epiphone Les Paul Custom
Washburn J28SDL

Mesa/Boogie F-50 Combo
#27
Im doing what you did. Humbucker in neck and bridge, and splitting them.. I didn't fully get what you said about you having 20 different connections on your switch, but i assume i'll have to buy a new one? But whats the practical difference between 20 connections and 8 as in the standard stratocaster?

Edit: By the way, have you got your name from the porn actor in the movie about a guy named dirk diggler?

Sorry, just had to ask
Well, just to be like everyone else, here's my rig:

Fender American Stratocaster
Epiphone Les Paul Custom
Washburn J28SDL

Mesa/Boogie F-50 Combo
#28
Quote by refgerto
Im doing what you did. Humbucker in neck and bridge, and splitting them.. I didn't fully get what you said about you having 20 different connections on your switch, but i assume i'll have to buy a new one? But whats the practical difference between 20 connections and 8 as in the standard stratocaster?

Are you doing just the 2 humbuckers or are you going with a H-S-H mod? There are a lot of resources to be found out there depending on what kind of configuration you want to go with. If you're just going H-S-H, you can use the factory pickup switch. But to answer your question, more connections allow you to do more things with the switch as it changes the number of terminals the switch makes contact with. For anything more than just cycling through the pickups, you'll need the 20 connector (it might actually be 24 or 26) switch. Another example is that with the 20+ connector switch, you can get 5 distinct sounds out of a Telecaster with only 2 single-coil pickups. You could also do what I've done using all stacked (single-coil sized) humbuckers. You'll retain *some* of the Strat tone, but get more output (unless you go all Choppers, Fast Tracks, or Hot Rails, which removes your Strat tone almost completely without coil splitting).
Edit: By the way, have you got your name from the porn actor in the movie about a guy named dirk diggler?

Sorry, just had to ask

Nope. Dirk Gently is the main character from two Douglas Adams novels, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency and Long Dark Teatime of the Soul.
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