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#1
Hey all,

I'm on the verge of buying a new guitar and upgrading from my schecter omen 6. I play for my church and I mostly do all the soloing (we have a pretty cool church haha). I need a guitar that has both a very nice clean sound and has a good distorted soloing sound. Doesn't have to be able to crunch because obviously I won't need it seeing how I already have a (in medium-bad condition) omen 6. I have sorted it down to 4 guitars but I need opinions from other guitarists before I spend my hard earned money.

Here are my choices (if you guys have a better pick feel free to give me the musician's friend page for the guitar):

- Schecter C-1 Classic link

- Gibson Les Paul Special SL Humbucker link

- ESP LTD SC600 Stephen Carpenter Sig link

- Fender Special Edition Koa Strat link

thanks for your help
Last edited by ShizNick at Jul 30, 2006,
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#6
go with the schecter. not only can it get the job done, it also looks gorgeous. dont get that les paul, its a low end gibson and sucks. you would be better off getting a high end epiphone in my opinion.
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#7
do you guys have reasons though? I tried to get a variety of different guitars and I dont want people choosing the les paul just cause its a les paul...
#8
dont get the lower end les paul. get the fender strat. it will have a great sound
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#9
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go with the schecter. not only can it get the job done, it also looks gorgeous. dont get that les paul, its a low end gibson and sucks. you would be better off getting a high end epiphone in my opinion.


yeah I was learning towards that and the ESP-LTD... I was trying to choose guitars that were under 800... so obviously can't get a HIGH end gibson and dont want a high end epiphone...
#10
Although I personally own a C-1 classic (and love it VERY VERY MUCH), if you're looking for a lighter sound, then go with the Strat. The Les Paul is well... a Les Paul of course. I dunno. If I was in your shoes, I'd go with the Strat. It is church after all
#11
i have the les paul special SL humbucker. its really good playing wise, but its kinda plain looking. it has the les paul tone though
#12
Get an Ibanez.
Because they sound great, look great, play great and you can get some nice models fairly cheap.
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#13
Lower end LP's = no
any LP for a clean sound = no

Ive always thought, because of the mids/woods/pups, that LP's are very rythmn based and Strats are lead based. not to say you cant do rythmns with Strats, just not heavily distorted ones, CLEAN rythmns sound much better on strats imo.

But yeah, strat for sure, it'll get you the best clean tone out of the 4, and the single coil punch you get from it, i find, will give nicer leads in a church setting.
#14
Ibanez, Jackson, Schecter...only recommend those because I love whammy bar [when I say Schecter, I mean FR Schecters]

But we can only give you suggestions, go and try out as many guitars as you can, that's the only opinion that counts, yours.
#16
i vote strat
because its probably the most verstatile guitar in that bunch, it can sound like a gibson, or almost anything in that.
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#17
Whammy's are great for that perfect church solo!

Have you ever listened to a David Gilmour solo?
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anything with emgs, ill go for a esp/ltd of some sort if u want to splash the cash


he aint playing metal man, he plays at a church.

go with the start, IMO it has the most versatility and i think you would need that.
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#20
the classic has plenty of versatility, sounds great, and looks the best out of all IMO...but thats all that is, my opinion
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Have you ever listened to a David Gilmour solo?


And those are very churchlike

theres a difference between non distorted whammy bar soloing and church style leads.


I PLAY in a church ensemble, and have heard many different ones, a few who have lead guitars. They dont do rythmns/solo's, they do lead much like in blues, where throughout the song, they'll carry the melody and or liven up the music, neither of which i see happening in a church situation with a whammy bar.


And besides, you said yourself you listed those guitars basically because you liked the FR's on them, and even IF church/praise music incorporated a little whammy here and there, you shouldnt tell someone to buy a guitar solely for the bridge. If you look back at that, you listed 3 very well known METAL guitar brands. He's playing for church. NOT to be confused with Christian Black Metal (which i dont listen to.. but HAVE heard)
#22
for the required, i personally would go with the strat, although i am not sure the changes with the spec ed. koa

that is, if you're going for a lead part. there are still metal guitarists that use strats (mainly iron maiden though)
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#24
I recommend a Telecaster. I would recommend the Strat of the ones you picked, but I like the Tele's 3 tones more than the Strat's 5, so I'd personally get a Tele for what you're playing. Cleans on a Tele > cleans on a Strat.
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#25
Do not get the Koa Strat. Its a laminated top.
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#26
yeah the schecter, youve already had expierience of an omen 6, so youll know the quality youll be getting
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Do not get the Koa Strat. Its a laminated top.

So?
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yeah the schecter, youve already had expierience of an omen 6, so youll know the quality youll be getting

He also knows the sound. Not much variation between guitars in a company that only makes guitars with humbuckers.
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#28
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I recommend a Telecaster. I would recommend the Strat of the ones you picked, but I like the Tele's 3 tones more than the Strat's 5, so I'd personally get a Tele for what you're playing. Cleans on a Tele > cleans on a Strat.


are telecasters about the same pricing range as strats?
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Do not get the Koa Strat. Its a laminated top.


what are the drawbacks of having a laminated top? is that just more shine on the guitar?
#30
^ AFAIK, theyre exaclty the same... (if theyre the same series, of course: MIM, MIA, Deluxe, etc.)
#31
Quote by ShizNick
what are the drawbacks of having a laminated top? is that just more shine on the guitar?

Laminated means that the whole body isn't Koa. They put a thin layer of koa on top of an alder body (or whatever it's made out of). The laminate needs to be at least 3/4" to change the tone. Gibson does this to Les Pauls (maple on top of mahogany) to add brightness. Companies like Warmoth, on the other hand, only use a 1/4" laminate so the top wood doesn't change the characteristics of the tone.

Teles are in the same price ranges as Strats. Teles are sometimes a little cheaper.
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#32
go with the schecter or find a used les paul studio.
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#33
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And those are very churchlike

theres a difference between non distorted whammy bar soloing and church style leads.


I PLAY in a church ensemble, and have heard many different ones, a few who have lead guitars. They dont do rythmns/solo's, they do lead much like in blues, where throughout the song, they'll carry the melody and or liven up the music, neither of which i see happening in a church situation with a whammy bar.


And besides, you said yourself you listed those guitars basically because you liked the FR's on them, and even IF church/praise music incorporated a little whammy here and there, you shouldnt tell someone to buy a guitar solely for the bridge. If you look back at that, you listed 3 very well known METAL guitar brands. He's playing for church. NOT to be confused with Christian Black Metal (which i dont listen to.. but HAVE heard)


not true, the singer/director of the music for my church encourages me to "rock out" when I throw some solos in there, as long as it's not distracting from the lyrics or from the song. So whenever there are a few bars of just the band playing with no singing, I just whip out some solos
#34
There's something inherently pornographic and just a touch blasphemous about using church as a forum for masturbating in front of other people.
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#35
^

but i have to agree, yours is the only church ive seen like that... is it roman catholic? ill admit i only ever see RC masses.
#36
Lutheran, and the music director used to be a drummer in some 80s bar band, so kinda rare i guess...

as for dirk gently, im not sure what you're talking about haha
#38
What about something with a coil split. Doesn't Shecter make a guitar with coil spliting?

That way you can split the humbucker for you to be able to use them as single-coils (if you didn't know , im sure someone on here will explain it better than i can )

here this should explain it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coil_tap
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#39
I would get a high end epiphone for the les paul. Starts are good, but your nto jsut using this gutiar for church right? I say look at some Ibanezs, there supose to all round musical.


just get the schecter!
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