#1
i need/ want a halfstack and i was lookin into this, i've seen a lot of good reveiws and i've seen alot of bad, i've played on it too and i thought the clean was amazing and the dist. was pretty good too. my budget is around 700 bucks and i have an epi lp custom and i play metal, what kind of halfstack is gonna get me the most bang for my buck....no tube combos
#2
Heres what you do. Go on ebay and look for a Carvin MTS3200 or X100B head. Will run you around 400 - 500 shipped. Thats your tone. Then scour ebay or Craigslist for a Carvin Legacy cabinet or some other cabinet loaded with CCelestions and can run at 16Ohm. Trust me on this, dont waste your cash on the MG. You will be disapointed.
#3
why no tube combo's might i ask? you have a thing against having good tone?
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#4
Why no tube combos? But if you insist on getting a SS halfstack, I've heard that randall makes good SS amps for metal.
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#5
Don't know why you're shunning away tube combos. They will be just as loud as a solid state halfstack, so I hope you're not saying no because you want the "look" of the halfstack. Anyway, the MG100 is your standard Marshall solid state. From my experience the clean is decent enough but the distortion is somewhat sterile and very much lacking in the "punch" department. The built in effects can be useful if you fiddle around and really learn there limitations, but there certainly isn't a whole lot of flexibility with them.

All in all I'd say for a first halfstack the MG is good enough and leaves a lot of room for upgrades. Consider getting a higher end cabinet to improve the MG's tone, plus you can then get better heads without investing in a new cab. And also I urge you to reconsider a tube combo.
#6
I doubt you need a halfstack, but if you and you wont consider a tube combo then at least get a tube halfstack

Solid State Circuitry: Sound worse the louder they go (In a lot of cases)
Tube Circuitry: Sound Better the louder they go
Reason you use a halfstack: You need more volume

See where we're coming from?

And If you are getting a solid state halfstack, at least get something better than an MG such as...

ANYTHING
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#7
seriously, i picked up a used peavey XXX 2x12 used for $600, and it will blow your MG out of the water voulme and tone wise.

you should also check out a peavey 5150 combo.

you could always pick up a good 2x12 like a carvin legacy and then you basically have a half stack.
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#8
Threadstarter, you're going to Hell for even thinking of buying an MG halfstack.

For that price, get a good sounding valve amp.
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#9
yea, i would go with a XXX 2x12 combo. high gain, and is awesome. if you can get more, get the JSX combo.

i had a kid over not too long ago, he brought his MG100 half stack, i giggled inside, but he was a noob, so i didnt bash him too much. he loved my JSX, and he hated the MG afterwards.
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#10
If you insist on a horrible SS half-stack, I'm going to put my vote on Randall. However, a Peavey XXX combo or a peavey 6505 combo would be 100x better. You might be able to get a used Peavey 5150 or 6505 head and a cheap cab if you stretch your budget a little.
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#11
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i need/ want a halfstack and i was lookin into this, i've seen a lot of good reveiws and i've seen alot of bad, i've played on it too and i thought the clean was amazing and the dist. was pretty good too. my budget is around 700 bucks and i have an epi lp custom and i play metal, what kind of halfstack is gonna get me the most bang for my buck....no tube combos



Lol.

Get a tube combo. If you get a stack for looks, then you're a poser. >_>

All the damn metal/HxC kids around my area who play growl music use solid state stacks. They all suck. I hate the genre regardless, but the tone is horrid. Don't get me wrong, I like high gain tones, that's not the part I hate... But jeez, do NOT get an SS stack just because it has four speakers. The less speakers on an SS the better. -.-
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If you insist on a horrible SS half-stack, I'm going to put my vote on Randall. However, a Peavey XXX combo or a peavey 6505 combo would be 100x better. You might be able to get a used Peavey 5150 or 6505 head and a cheap cab if you stretch your budget a little.

actually the randal rgt200 head is pretty good. not great, but good. better at downtuned stuff.
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no. Just no. Awful.

Get a tube combo, or else get a tube halfstack second hand.
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#15
the reason i don't want a tube combos because expansion is limited i want a stack so i can expand it and i want a solid state becaise it saves me money, if i could afford a tube stack i'd have a crate blue voodoo sitting beside me...i already have a couple ss combos and i don't like the fact that i can't expand them as well as a stack so stop bashing me
#16
you can get a good tube combo and still expand on it.

good tube combo
then get a good cab cab
then get a good tube head and sell the combo.

insted of
****ty ss head and ****ty cab.
sell ****ty cab for decent cab.
sell ****ty ss head for good tube head.
sell decent cab for good cab.
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the reason i don't want a tube combos because expansion is limited i want a stack so i can expand it and i want a solid state becaise it saves me money, if i could afford a tube stack i'd have a crate blue voodoo sitting beside me...i already have a couple ss combos and i don't like the fact that i can't expand them as well as a stack so stop bashing me


but your sacrificing the most important thing about guitar....SOUND.

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you can get a good tube combo and still expand on it.

good tube combo
then get a good cab cab
then get a good tube head and sell the combo.

insted of
****ty ss head and ****ty cab.
sell ****ty cab for decent cab.
sell ****ty ss head for good tube head.
sell decent cab for good cab.


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#18
But later on you won't want to "expand" the ****ty tone of an MG, you'll want to get rid of it.
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#19
dude..just get the tube combo...

foremost, the tube amp will sound so much better. Second, its more compact..u dont have to carry a head and cabinet.

a cheap tube amp that doesnt sound that bad is a b52 at212 combo amp. All tube 100watts...or a traynor ycv50blue with an overdrive pedal in front of it.
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#21
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the reason i don't want a tube combos because expansion is limited i want a stack so i can expand it and i want a solid state becaise it saves me money, if i could afford a tube stack i'd have a crate blue voodoo sitting beside me...i already have a couple ss combos and i don't like the fact that i can't expand them as well as a stack so stop bashing me


Course you can expand a combo, most decent ones allow for a cab to be added. And seriously I'd keep my TSL combo over any MG, even one connected to a dozen stacks and I have owned an MG so I can compare the 2, it's like day and night there is that much of a difference. I use my combo now for everything, plenty loud enough and if needed I'll get a quad box later, stuff getting another head just for looks.

Who'd want to expand that MG sound anyways????

EDIT: is there any reason, apart from looks and this insane concept of expansion that you need a half stack anyway?
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#22
Hey folks, if he have tried it, and really like the tone of a MG halfstack, then why the hell shouldn't he buy it... There are famous players using them, and not every one in the world need a tubeamp...
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Hey folks, if he have tried it, and really like the tone of a MG halfstack, then why the hell shouldn't he buy it... There are famous players using them, and not every one in the world need a tubeamp...


yes. I know.

name a few famous players that play an MG.
#24
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