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UMadeMeRealise
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#1
I'm surprised there isn't a thread yet! Anyway, here's a guide for people getting into them:

Start by watching the videos (all available on YouTube)
You Made Me Realise- 1988
Feed Me With Your Kiss- 1988
Soon- 1990
To Here Knows When- 1991
Swallow- 1991
Only Shallow- 1991

Then buy the albums. There are only two: Loveless and Isn't Anything, so buy them together if at all possible. If you want to start off with just one album, keep in mind that Loveless is more alt-rock and ambient, while Isn't Anything is more punk-influenced. Next, buy the Glider EP, which features the single "Soon" and three equally great B-sides. If you can find it, the Tremolo EP, which features the single "To Here Knows When" is a worthwhile buy, but not an essential one. For further forays into the band's history, discography, and to get tabs, go here.
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2xG
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#2
'Loveless' is one of my favourite albums of all time. I suppose its good the Kevin Shields quit when he did. He had practically no way to go but down, and that would've spoiled the mystique surrounding his crowning acheivement.


On the other hand, 'Isn't Anything' is astonishingly mediocre.
Monkeygone2hvn
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#4
i got loveless a few weeks ago, its a pretty cool album, i havnt had a chance to listen to it all the way through yet though....
pumpkins_rule
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#5
Loveless is great all the way through. I sometimes wonder how he gets all those weird sounds to come out of his guitar.
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UMadeMeRealise
call me Ian
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#6
^
I've done a little research on that, and I have a pretty good idea of how he does: he manipulates the tremolo arm while he strums chords, which is only possible on Fender guitars with a floating trem system; he combines this playing technique with excessive playing volumes (to produce better sustain), open tunings, modulation effects (tremolo pedals), and reverb effects (specifically, reverse reverb). Pedals that he's used include: Digitech WH-1 Whammy, Marshall Shred Master, Boss GE-7 Graphic Equalizer, Boss PN-2 Tremolo/Pan, Digitech PDS-8000 Echo Plus Delay Sampler and Dunlop Rotovibe. Bilinda uses the GE-7 and the Boss HM-2 Heavy Metal. Hope this helps.

BTW, doesn't anyone like Isn't Anything? I think it's easily as good as Loveless, in a vastly different way.
Caustic
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#7
I don't think it's as good as Loveless, not many things are, but I think it's a fantastic record.

I am a huge, huge, huuuge fan of My Bloody Valentine and shoegazing bands in general. Such atmosphere among the drones, wails and soft breezy distortion. And Loveless embodies it.
And yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me: no, nor woman neither... nor women neither.
UMadeMeRealise
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#8
^ Shoegaze should have been much bigger than it was. But unfortunately, I've only ever heard two shoegaze tracks played on the radio: 'Only Shallow' and 'Sometimes.'
Caustic
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#9
I've never heard a shoegaze song on the radio. UK mainstream radio is garbage, and the channels that play anything decent are impossible to find.
And yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me: no, nor woman neither... nor women neither.
UMadeMeRealise
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#10
Quote by Caustic
UK mainstream radio is garbage, and the channels that play anything decent are impossible to find.


Really? And I thought that was only an American problem. But it was really quite bizarre hearing 'Only Shallow' on the radio, because it came on after Fall Out Boy and before Korn.
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#11
Loveless is pretty much a perfect album.
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pumpkins_rule
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#13
Quote by UMadeMeRealise
^ Shoegaze should have been much bigger than it was. But unfortunately, I've only ever heard two shoegaze tracks played on the radio: 'Only Shallow' and 'Sometimes.'


It's funny when metal guitarists talk about how shoegaze is bad because it's all effects.
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Quote by mydarkesthour

It seems like UG is full of those Caveman Metalheads

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I meant caveman as in long haired....


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#14
I have Loveless, Isn't Anything and a few of their EPs: you made me realize, glider and tremelo. Also, they had three albums - the first being a gothic post-punk mess called 'This is your bloody valentine' or something like that.
deano_strat
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#15
its a cool album... the definitive shoegaze album i'd say. and kevin shields must have spent ages tryin to reproduce all that live.

Soon is the best song i think.
2xG
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#17
Anyone know anything about 'Experimental Audio Research', Kevin Shields' collab with Peter Kember(of Spacemen 3)? I've always wanted to check them out, but I can't find any of their stuff.
Mild Vibe
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#19
Loveless is the most amazing sounding album I have ever heard. I'm a fan. I was once bashed for liking them because their name sounds emo .
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#21
^ I've actually had people tell me it was emo even after they heard a couple songs off Loveless. Ignoramuses...
sponj
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#22
please don't kill me but I think that isn't anything is better than loveless
the heart is a risky fuel to burn
sponj
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#24
loveless may be better just because it's studied to the most subtle detail but Isn't anything just cuts it better for me...
the heart is a risky fuel to burn
Mild Vibe
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#25
Quote by DorkusMalorkus
Mistaken for "Bullet for my Valentine"?

(What a ripoff name, by the way)


Yeah, I had a radio show with a couple of other people, and they were all like, "WTF tat is soooooooo emo!" and I told em to fuck off. Great band btw.
Andy Ferris
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#29
my question is?
how young were you when you first heard a MBV album?
I, 14. pwnzr.
Andy Ferris
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#30
Quote by DorkusMalorkus
Start with Loveless.

If you are looking for songs then get:

Sometimes
Soon
Only Shallow
When You Sleep



Yes, "sometimes," and "when you sleep," are my personal favorites off of that album.
DorkusMalorkus
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#31
Quote by Andy Ferris
my question is?
how young were you when you first heard a MBV album?
I, 14. pwnzr.

I was 14 also. I got Loveless in early January of 2006, and I turned 15 in late February.

Have any of you seen Lost in Trasnlation. "Sometimes" is used in it, and Kevin Shields does some music.
Mild Vibe
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#32
Quote by Andy Ferris
my question is?
how young were you when you first heard a MBV album?
I, 14. pwnzr.


Haha, 13 for me, I'm serious!
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#34
Quote by DorkusMalorkus
Mistaken for "Bullet for my Valentine"?

(What a ripoff name, by the way)


Well, MBV borrowed their name from a film, so I guess it's even. Also, the Lost in Translation soundtrack is amazing. Really works with the film.
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#35
Quote by xX*Zeppelin*Xx
Well, MBV borrowed their name from a film, so I guess it's even.

I don't mind it when it is different media...

Like Xiu Xiu got their name from a movie, I'm cool with that. But when a band rips the name off of another band then I get annoyed.
sponj
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#36
Quote by DorkusMalorkus

Have any of you seen Lost in Trasnlation. "Sometimes" is used in it, and Kevin Shields does some music.


that movie is pure genious! I think Kevin Shields was the guy in charge of the soundtrack.

Death in Vegas has an amazing song in that movie as well. I'd never thought i'd heard Death in Vegas play something so shoegazy ;_;
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Mild Vibe
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#38
Quote by DorkusMalorkus
Oh, so he was in charge of it? Thats is cool. I still think Mark Motherbaugh is my favorite as far as soundtracks go (I believe he has done all of Wes Anderson's movies).


Yeah, I'm pretty sure he does them. Is 'Isn't Anything' worth the buy for a casual fan of Loveless?
sponj
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#40
and for a casual fan of punk driven indie as well
the heart is a risky fuel to burn