#1
My friend's getting a bass and an amp, and the 100W SS Carlsbro amp he was looking at got sold. So now he can buy a Fender Rumble 60 (also SS, I think) or keep looking.

Will the 60 SS watts get drowned out by other instruments? Namely the drummer and me, when I get a 40W tube combo for my guitar?
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#3
Are you sure? I played with another bassist before, and he had some crap 60W amp, and he had to crank it to get heard over my 15 watt SS! Not only that, his sound got distorted. But I think that's more to the speaker than the amp itself.
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#4
personally, I think if your gigging small-medium venues, and practicing you need at least 300 watts. he should look some ashdown combos. as those are the best quality for the price.
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#5
What price are we talking here? He has about 600$ for the amp. And do you have any other suggestions? I'm not too sure that I've seen Ashdowns here, I live in Croatia.

EDIT:

Okay I found a store here that carries Ashdowns, but I'm not too sure he can afford any of them. Thanks for your help, though, keep the suggestions coming!

Oh yes, and he wants a GN'R sorta tone, you know, the boomy bass sound, instead of the muddy, pop-less sound.
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#6
well I have a very similar gnr sound with my amp and EQ. and I use ashdown,
the MAG410 combo to be specific, it cost me £390 which is rougly $730 I think..
however it will be most certainly work the extra.
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#7
Yeah, but the problem is that his budget isn't very flexible.

EDIT:

MAGC410T?


That costs close to 900$ here, so that's out of the question.
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#8
well i reccomend you stick with ashdowns, maybe the 2x10 combo instead, i'm not sure how muchc heaper it is though.


EDIT: yeah, that amp. that's the one I have..
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#9


This is the cheapest Ashdown the store carries. Costs a lil' lower than 700. Will have to go down the store and check their gear out and haggle some. Thanks for the help man!
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#10
At one of our first gigs, back when I was a working musician, lo those many years ago, we were doing a soundcheck. None of us had very much outside-the-living-room experience, and our bassist could not be heard. I remember he had a Peavey rig, I just don't remember which one. (this was c. 1988 or so). Finally, after trying everything we knew, we took the preamp out and ran it straight into the mixing board and holy sh*t you have never heard so much bass. I think we were the bassiest act in town.

I am not saying this is what you should do, I am just saying that it worked great for us. We called it "bass all over the place" and we did it at every gig after that.
#11
Remember most venues should have a PA and take a line-out from your amp. The only bass you need to worry about in that case is your monitoring. And even though you will be standing right next to it, you need to think you will have two guitar amps blaring (or maybe just one), the drummer, and the noise from the output of the PA. I gor with Forcemaster, 300w minimum for gigging i reckon !
#12
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This is the cheapest Ashdown the store carries. Costs a lil' lower than 700. Will have to go down the store and check their gear out and haggle some. Thanks for the help man!


yeah, i'm sure you can haggle maybe $50 off it, i managed it go for it if you get it though. Just remember ashdowns are very deep amps to begin with and the 1x15 maybe very boomy. but i'm sure with some EQ tweaking you could sort it out.
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Fender Geddy Lee Jazz
Fender MIA Precision
Musicman Bongo
Boss TU-2
EBS TD650
EBS ProLine 2x10 x 2
#13
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+1

60w can play with a drummer, if its a good make (peavey, laney etc) not "Starfire" etc...

EDIT: You're getting a 40w all tube combo? Thats gonna be ****TING loud!
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EDIT: You're getting a 40w all tube combo? Thats gonna be ****TING loud!

40 Watts is loud?
#16
40 watts tube for a guitar, yea.

i have a 120 watt JSX (tube) and it drowns out my bass stack (1000 watts, 1x18, 4x10)
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40 Watts is loud?
A decent 40 watt all tube/valve ie(Matamp) will keep up with anything up to 300 watts solid state!
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#18
i have a little 30-watt crate and it's loud enough to keep up with drums sitting right next to it, and 2 guitars... i turn it all the way up for shows, but they're in small/medium venues, no distortion... so just get like a 50-100 watt peavy or crate, and make sure the bassist fixes his eq to get the sound he wants.
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