#1
I mean, I can do it, I just hate how it sounds. The same with pops. I've noticed lots and lots of slapping gets talked about here, so I was wondering if anyone just plays solid fingerpicking I guess you could call it...
#4
Im not the biggest fan of it.. i like it when the likes of flea does it, but i hate doing it myself... i prefer fingers or picks
#7
slapping and popping is an amazing bass technique which, when utilisec correctly can make great musical statements, but whenever over used makes you sound one dimensional. I have a track where it is all done fingerstyle but some times i chuck in a poppeds fill and it sounds fooking great..

like everthing in life, moderation is key
#9
^ well i wouldnt say all slapped songs are annoying.. i could name a few that wouldnt sound the same played fingerstyle... take Fly Away by Lenny Kravitz.. such a basic riff, but because it is slapped, it gives that extra va va voom and it sounds great.. And because the chorus is fingered, the verses stand out and it;s a nice contrast.. but yea, some people think because they CAN slap, they should do it all the time. Take Flea for example, the earlier albums are like "hey, i can slap and pop really fast", and now the later albums he rarely slaps a tune..
#10
A thread like this came up a while ago. I like slapping when you can make it fit right in the pocket. If you have a lot of room to play in, slapping is a great way to fill up that room. There are tons of examples of over-done slap. Les Claypool is one example. All the songs except for 2 on his new CD are not slapped. However, he wrote all the songs, including the drum lines and vocals, so he made room for his slapping. It fit well in the songs because he was able to make them.

Applehead mentioned Flea... on his earlier albums, especially Uplift Mofo Party Plan, he slapped the hell out of each song, and it really didn't fit very well in a lot of songs (for instance, the verse of Fight Like A Brave). Then on his later albums, especially By The Way and Stadium Arcadium, he really slapped scarcely. On Stadium Arcadium on the song Tell Me Baby, he really uses slap to his advantage. The bass line fits perfectly in with the resto f the song. Victor Wooten is another example. I never really got into all that really fast double thumping stuff he did (if it is even considered slap). Its interesting to watch and listen to maybe once, and then it gets old really fast.

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^I agree I also love finger picked parts which have slapped fills and stuff but solely slapped songs (unless nice hot jazz line) are annoying

There are a lot of rock basslines where the slap lines add a lot to the song. One example is Walkin' On Down The Road on RHCP's UMPP. The bassline is what makes the song what it is.

I was watching BET last night (god only knows why), and there was this jazz pianist on. The bass player was really slapping a lot, and it really added to the song. It wasn't one of those slap lines that took away the attention from the pianist. The only reason I picked it out was because I am a bass player and thats who I was listening to

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#11
Slap = good!
Overdone slap = bad!
Double thumping = bad! (to me)

i just have beef with DT'ing. The only way i think its at all useful is as a sweep technique, and then its not even DT, its just sweeping with your thumb. It dosnt sound like slapping at all to me, it just sounds like plucking, and heck, i can do 3/4 finger right hand plucking and go the same speed as people who DT (and i still have to work on 4 fingers, mind you), so i dont see any reason why DT is so great. I wouldnt even think it adds to your versatility: Slapping you can fit into a context of a song to make a bassline (obviously)
Tapping, with some work, can still be a bassline
i dont see how DT'ing can be a bassline. it can be a melody or flurry of fast notes or a chord in which the strings are hit a lot of times, but it does NOT sound like a bassline to me.
#12
Playing wise, I can do it well, but I've kinda grown out of it... I'll occasionally slap and pop if I'm jamming with people but mostly I'll just finger pick.
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#13
Thanks for all the replies. I guess it isn't just me that finds most of it annoying. Sorry, I didn't this was done before. The searches for UG are so vague it's hard to find what you're looking for.
#15
meh, i cannot slap at all, so i dont really do it, but on guitar, im a pinch harmonic ***** (think zakk wylde)

but some songs need it and add a little "hey, thats cool" to the song, others are overdone, like primus. i like the older RHCP stuff, like backwoods, or higher ground (i know thats not their song,but whatever) if it is used right, then i odnt mind alot of it, if its used wrong, then get rid of it.
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#16
It can be a beautiful thing, but when overdone, it either becomes the theme from Shaft, or porn music.
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#17
I like the whole motion of it...the sound is ok, octaves being my faviorite...its more fun just to do than to hear for me...it gives my picking fingers a rest too
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#18
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I have a track where it is all done fingerstyle but some times i chuck in a poppeds fill and it sounds fooking great..




Yeah, I've done that too! It's great for a bit of accenting.

When slap is in the wrong hands, it's really bad.

I find slap great for building lots of subtle rhythms into a groove. Recently, I've been messing around with triplet, sextuplet and paradiddle mutes (a bit wanky I know... but it keeps the prostate healthy! :P )
#19
Well, I enjoy doing it sometimes. I find it extremely fun, and it sounds nice. Nothing like a nice pop off the g string. But it all depends on what music you play usually. If your playing blink 182...well...I dont think you'll be doing much slap and pop.

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#20
eh, i'm just getting the hang of slapping and popping, and i agree that overuse makes it sound horrible, but amazing technique and fitting it in properly can MAKE a song.
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#21
i like it. its not for every, or even most songs. but it works. its just a matter of opinion.
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#22
I like slapping. It sounds funky and cool, but yeah, I agree with crazypeanutman, it's not for all songs.
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#23
I like slap and pop in moderation. But i can't do it at all and I have no urge to learn how. I stick to just fingerpicking. No pick tho, only fingers.
#24
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I like slap and pop in moderation. But i can't do it at all and I have no urge to learn how. I stick to just fingerpicking. No pick tho, only fingers.


I'm just curious, how fast can you fingerpick? Is it just me that can't fingerpick as fast as Steve Harris? I have to use a pick to get the rythms up to his speed.
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#25
practice, man! think of that u can use 1 pick, but 4 fingers (3 is more than enough). fingerpick can be a lil faster, but it depends on your fingers/wrist , and maybe on the strings; to me on low B fingers are faster, on high C the pick. not as if i was a great fingerpicker, i'm just switching from picks to fingers, after using them for 6 years or so, and havent reached the same speed and accuracy i had yet. as someone (83lespaulstudio) said: "we are all students". practice with easy melodies, speed up, then u can move to more difficult ones.

slapping: sometimes it sounds good, depends on the mood of the song, but after a while it's boring to me.
#26
Are you serious? I couldn't imagine NOT slapping on bass. So boring otherwise...
#27
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Slap = good!
Overdone slap = bad!
Double thumping = bad
! (to me)

i just have beef with DT'ing. The only way i think its at all useful is as a sweep technique, and then its not even DT, its just sweeping with your thumb. It dosnt sound like slapping at all to me, it just sounds like plucking, and heck, i can do 3/4 finger right hand plucking and go the same speed as people who DT (and i still have to work on 4 fingers, mind you), so i dont see any reason why DT is so great. I wouldnt even think it adds to your versatility: Slapping you can fit into a context of a song to make a bassline (obviously)
Tapping, with some work, can still be a bassline
i dont see how DT'ing can be a bassline. it can be a melody or flurry of fast notes or a chord in which the strings are hit a lot of times, but it does NOT sound like a bassline to me.

Agreed.
#28
Slap and Pop, aka "Porno-Bass".

I dont mind it. However it should only be used sparingly.
#29
I can fingerpick fairly fast. The only song I have found that is too fast is this on part in the beginning of Hit The Lights by Metallica. Its a group of 16nth and 32nd notes at 144 BPM so its pretty darn fast. Fingerpicking quickly comes with practice, After many long heckish hours and many a bloody finger. But in the end the speed is worth it. Thats my opinion anyway.
#30
^ sry to burst your bubble but its 16ths at 160 bpm. no 32nds that i cant find, and i use a 5 star GP tab.
#31
I dunno, I have the Cherry Lane Authorized Edition, Kill 'Em All: Bass Guitar Series and it has the 32nds. But it doesnt really matter, what I'm saying is that with enough practice fingerpicking quickly isn't that hard.
#32
I hardly ever use slap in a band situation, I'm not that good at it and the music doesn't need it. I sometimes like to pull out some RHCP or something in my bedroom, though. Just to keep it on the backburner in case I ever need it.

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#33
I don't care for it. I did it a while back, but I find the tone kind of limiting. I saw American Idol when they had the Motown session players playing the hits, and instead of Bob Babbitt, they got some hotshot young bassist to play "What's Going On" and he totally ruined it by throwing in some slap and pop--he overplayed and overpowered the song.

Sure it's flashy, fast and sounds cool to do once in a while, but the best bass lines are pure melody--timeless and ever-inspiring. It's good to know how to do it as a "tool in your toolbox", but to use it for everything is like using a hammer to try to do every job. I prefer to have many tools in my toolbox--it just makes more sense and gives you flexibility to sit in with many different setups and genres.
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