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#1
They belong here, not in the hardcore forums. (Ready for flaming by ignorant wagon hoppers that all team up because one person says they arent metal).
#3
No.

"waggon hoppers" listen to trivium.


Listen to something like Necrophagist or Wintersun, and tell me they're still metal.
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#4
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Listen to something like Necrophagist.

Indeed.

Actually, click a little bit above. Listen to nearly anything in the metal recommendation thread and tell me Trivium is still metal.

EDIT: sorry, my childishness is showing. Trivium really is more harcore than they are metal though by a mile.
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#5
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No.

"waggon hoppers" listen to trivium.


Listen to something like Necrophagist or Wintersun, and tell me they're still metal.


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#6
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No.

"waggon hoppers" listen to trivium.


Listen to something like Necrophagist or Wintersun, and tell me they're still metal.


i do listen to both, and i also listen to trivium, and consider them metal.
#8
Trivium Could Be Considered Metal But When You Tell Some One To Listen Necrophagist You Must Be Joking, All The Gay **** That Goes GRRR GRrrrr GRRR has Been Done Way Too Many Times. I DO NOT LIKE TRIVIUM! So Dont call me a wagonm hopper!


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#10
I don't care what genre Trivuim is, they could be classified brutal black. But they'll aways be shit in my opinion
#11
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Trivium Could Be Considered Metal But When You Tell Some One To Listen Necrophagist You Must Be Joking, All The Gay **** That Goes GRRR GRrrrr GRRR has Been Done Way Too Many Times. I DO NOT LIKE TRIVIUM! So Dont call me a wagonm hopper!

Lmao, just because you don't like Death Metal vocals doesn't mean you should make it a priority to turn others away from it.
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I don't care what genre Trivuim is, they could be classified brutal black. But they'll aways be shit in my opinion

hahahaha


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#12
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Lmao, just because you don't like Death Metal vocals doesn't mean you should make it a priority to turn others away from it.


Well Not Trying To Turn People Away....but ...sorry dont have a point.
#13
^^^ Lol, you also don't need to capitolize every letter in the swentences you write.

And yes, all death metal goes "GRRR GRrrrr GRRR"
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#15
i enjoy both a7x and trivium. and i also enjoy immortal, blind guardian, behemoth, carcass, iced earth, stratovarius, etc.
#16
^^Ah well, not as silly as the threadstarter.

Or the Trivium = Brutal Black Metal comment (roflmao)
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#18
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i still enjoy em, but will no longer wear shirts or anything of them because i will get thrown into that stereotype because all the emos and preps and mtv fags picked up on em.
#19
*sighs*

This thread comes up about once every month or so, and the threadstarter is always just too ignorant to accept the fact that Trivium have been metalcore, and will continue to be metalcore, and very bad metalcore. This band has only made it big because thats the new trend for this era, but trust me and mark my words. This band will be gone in 5 years time.
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#20
I reckon trivium are metal. Listen to metallica and compare them. But still this thread is kinda stupid, its only gonna make people hate the band and start ****.
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#22
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*sighs*

This thread comes up about once every month or so, and the threadstarter is always just too ignorant to accept the fact that Trivium have been metalcore, and will continue to be metalcore, and very bad metalcore. This band has only made it big because thats the new trend for this era, but trust me and mark my words. This band will be gone in 5 years time.


no. and im not ignorant. i do listen to a little metalcore along with a ton of real metal. so i wouldnt be denying it if they were metalcore. i really dont think they are metalcore. they have real riffs, technical guitar playing, song structure, solos, song lyrics that have significance, unlike stick a syringe in your herpes infected ****-death stuff (even though i do enjoy that too), and songs youd rather whip your long hair around to than do karate moves and ****ing retarted dancing in the middle of a moshpit. i think theyre definitely metal. and if maiden is a fan of them and taking them on tour, that must mean at least a tiny bit of something.
#23
Uh... Why can't you just accept it?
I don't really get it, what's the big deal?
Just post in the Metalcore Forum about them.
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#24
the big deal is that theyre on a higher level of better music than metalcore, and they are metal. metal>metalcore so i dont think a good metal band should be shoved into that stereotype and disregarded.
#25
TBH, I have not heard them, therefor cannot judge what I think they are.

But I still know they are not Brutal Black Metal. Lawl
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the big deal is that theyre on a higher level of better music than metalcore, and they are metal. metal>metalcore so i dont think a good metal band should be shoved into that stereotype and disregarded.



I see your point but.....

THEY ARE NOT METAL
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#28
what's metal and what isn't could be seen as a matter of opinion, but the fact still remains that the rules, which are quite clearly not a matter of opinion, state trivium doesn't belong here. so, i guess you could say, then, that Trivium doesn't belong here.
#29
someone just answer my last post at least. im fine with the rules, but i just want to know what the justification for trivium not being a metal band is.
#30
Listen to them. The way they play is strikingly not metal. Particularly the vocals.
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#31
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someone just answer my last post at least. im fine with the rules, but i just want to know what the justification for trivium not being a metal band is.


well, in all honesty, i've never seen what about them qualifies as metalcore either. the only real problem i have with them is that Heafy sounds like dog barking while having a spiked metal rod firmly shoved up his ass. other than that, i like them.
#32
what's metal and what isn't could be seen as a matter of opinion, but the fact still remains that the rules, which are quite clearly not a matter of opinion, state trivium doesn't belong here. so, i guess you could say, then, that Trivium doesn't belong here.
Yea the mods could be real asshats and put em in the blues forum if they wanted.
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#33
the vocals are a fine matter of opinion, metal can have screaming, grunting, yelling, singing, screeching, falsetto, whatever vocals. so i dont thnk that really comes into play.

and to chrisl2003, that doesnt mean **** until you say some reasons why.
#34
I don't think I'd classify Trivium as metal. I do like listening to Trivium every so often, and I believe they're a step up from most "metalcore" bands as they actually do some solos and what not but..... there's something different that doesn't quite make them straight up metal. Probably the vocals or something else in my opinion but i dunno. That's just what I think though. I still enjoy listening to them though.
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and to chrisl2003, that doesnt mean **** until you say some reasons why.


gaah it's hard to describe how a band plays. the vocal style is especially reminiscent of slipknot, to me anyway. The heretic anthem, anyone?
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#36
i disagree that theyre similar to slipknot. heafy has an original scream, and its really powerful. but, if its like slipknot and youre saying the vox are the reason theyre not metal, wouldnt you call them numetal, not metalcore? trivium is definitely not numetal or metalcore
#37
Well upon listening to them now, I think the vocals are the only thing that differs from typical metal. The music itself seems metal enough though.
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#38
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Well upon listening to them now, I think the vocals are the only thing that differs from typical metal. The music itself seems metal enough though.


wouldnt it be good that the vocals arent typical? something different? and over time, metal has had all different kinds of vocals so why are heafy's an exception?
#39
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i disagree that theyre similar to slipknot. heafy has an original scream, and its really powerful. but, if its like slipknot and youre saying the vox are the reason theyre not metal, wouldnt you call them numetal, not metalcore? trivium is definitely not numetal or metalcore


I didn't really say they were similiar, but the vocals remind me of them at times. And your right, gaah. Though, I really haven't heard enough Trivium to open my fat fucking mouth.

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#40
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I didn't really say they were similiar, but the vocals remind me of them at times. And your right, gaah. Though, I really haven't heard enough Trivium to open my fat fucking mouth.

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just listen to em and maybe youll like em.
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