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#1
Who thinks Randy Rhoads was the greatest guitarist ever? I strongly think so. If he would have never died so young (age 25), then he would outplay virtually anybody. What do you all think.
EDIT: If you are gonna say that someone is better than Randy, then don't say it, cause that is not accepted here. Don't say Randy is better than anyone either, we won't care as much, but just don't, cause the more frequent posters don't believe their is a "best". Thx.
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#2
I'm a big fan of Randy, but... I don't think so. The same year he died Yngwie released Rising Force. If he was still a live, then I'm not sure. I don't think he would be the best, even if he was a live. Because even with the short years he recorded music there was nothing really too impressive.
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#3
i think so, he could outshred the shredders, out class the classical players, and write riffs like no one before.
#4
What do you mean not impressive? Randy sent countless kids to thier rooms w/ a metronome trying to play like him. Although, they'd never FULLY succeed. (this was to the guy two replies ago.
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#5
yea man i agree with the dude with bucket head pic rhoads is good but he,d be like be like were zakk is maybe lower his stuf is ok but not the greatest ever. RIP DIME
#6
regardless if he would be the best he'd still be amazing, like Jimi, SRV, and all the others who died
#7
I think you're wrong.
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Randy's pretty good, i wish he had made an instrumental album of seven as im not a big fan of ozzy's singing...but "the best"? I doubt it, i don't think anyone will ever agree on one person being "the best". Not as long as people have opinions...

edit: to beckerism: who are you talking to?
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What do you mean not impressive? Randy sent countless kids to thier rooms w/ a metronome trying to play like him. Although, they'd never FULLY succeed. (this was to the guy two replies ago.


Not everybodies standards are the same. People only a few years after him we're making music that blew Randy out of the water. Just because you influence someone, that doesn't nessecarily make you great.
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#10
When some one says sombody is the "greatest guitarist ever" thats always gonna be there opinion. There is no greatest guitarist ever.


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you shoulda posted this in classic rock forum the dumb F*cks in this forum think speed and difficulty is all that matters. i agree with you htough. not forcing anyone to agree with me. but if you think someone like malmsteen or vai is better just f*ck yourself. they wank off for a couple of minutes and call it a song.



Your stupid dude this forum has a hell of a lot more cares than speed and difficulty. Shred is misunderstood as just some fast as hell, cant even comprehend the notes type of thing. Shred doesn't even have to be fast.

Take you f*cking stereotypes and shove them up your classic rock ass. Go play smoke on the water.
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^amen to that...he would definately be good, but he wouldnt be the greatist
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#12
I like Randy, not a fan of the tone though. It'd be interesting to see what he'd have accomplished, but since it didn't happen there's not much point to that.
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#13
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Who thinks Randy Rhoads was the greatest guitarist ever? I strongly think so. If he would have never died so young (age 25), then he would outplay virtually anybody. What do you all think.


Dude, even though I am probably the single biggest Randy Rhoads fan registered to this site, even i know that he wasn't the "greatest guitarist ever". Even though I may think that and advocate it, in reality it just isn't so. He was very muscially educated, he was a teacher at his mothers music school, he was very talented(imo)m but he just wasn't the best. Truth be told, the can be no such thing.

But don't patronize me with that elite bull****. And stop posting stupid threads. You've plastered them all over the site.

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you shoulda posted this in classic rock forum the dumb F*cks in this forum think speed and difficulty is all that matters. i agree with you htough. not forcing anyone to agree with me. but if you think someone like malmsteen or vai is better just f*ck yourself. they wank off for a couple of minutes and call it a song.


**** you, pal. **** you right in your narrow-minded, elitist asshole. Get a clue and then come back and try again. You fail at life, dumb****. Don't you ever post something that ignorant again or may the hethan gods have mercy on your pitiful, uneducated soul. It might help to have a ****ing idea as to what you're talking about, as you obviously don't.
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Randy sent countless kids to thier rooms w/ a metronome trying to play like him.
I think u mean AL DI MEOLA.
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Your stupid dude this forum has a hell of a lot more cares than speed and difficulty. Shred is misunderstood as just some fast as hell, cant even comprehend the notes type of thing. Shred doesn't even have to be fast.

Take you f*cking stereotypes and shove them up your classic rock ass. Go play smoke on the water.

Actually i dont favor any kind of music i like over the other, i dont just listen to classic rock. but i have listen to shred before and i fall to sleep everytime its boring, im not saying that out of stereotypes. my main point is that you can play the Most complex **** ever if you want and hit every note perfectly but it doesnt matter because what you just played doesnt sound good. Sounding good is the whole point of playing guitar, not showing off. if you cant write a good song then you suck period, shredders cannot write an entertaining song.
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Actually i dont favor any kind of music i like over the other, i dont just listen to classic rock. but i have listen to shred before and i fall to sleep everytime its boring, im not saying that out of stereotypes. my main point is that you can play the Most complex **** ever if you want and hit every note perfectly but it doesnt matter because what you just played doesnt sound good. Sounding good is the whole point of playing guitar, not showing off. if you cant write a good song then you suck period, shredders cannot write an entertaining song.
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ok you dont like shred...i dont like emo but i dont go to the emo forum and tell them how stupid they are for liking it...its personal preference bitch...thats the beauty of it all...the point of shred isnt showing off like i said earlier its not all fast and what doenst sound good to you sounds good to other people...do you really think id be wasting my time listening to somthing i dont like???no you dont so go f*ck urself
#17
Randy Rhodes best guitarist ever definately by over 179857934780578975801082375108327581798789475890137958798375737579823709 fold better than anyone else! Gotta be politically correct so I'll say IMHO.
#18
I like Randy as a Guitarist, but he has nevcer really put me in awe with the exception of the Mr Crowley solo.
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Actually i dont favor any kind of music i like over the other, i dont just listen to classic rock. but i have listen to shred before and i fall to sleep everytime its boring, im not saying that out of stereotypes. my main point is that you can play the Most complex **** ever if you want and hit every note perfectly but it doesnt matter because what you just played doesnt sound good. Sounding good is the whole point of playing guitar, not showing off. if you cant write a good song then you suck period, shredders cannot write an entertaining song.
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Actually i dont favor any kind of music i like over the other, i dont just listen to classic rock. but i have listen to shred before and i fall to sleep everytime its boring, im not saying that out of stereotypes. my main point is that you can play the Most complex **** ever if you want and hit every note perfectly but it doesnt matter because what you just played doesnt sound good. Sounding good is the whole point of playing guitar, not showing off. if you cant write a good song then you suck period, shredders cannot write an entertaining song.
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I'd love to see you back up that last bit of that.

Also you may want to consider the bit that basically says if you play perfectly clean you still won't sound good, that's just silly...sounding good and being interesting are two seperate things, I really think you should go and get an education and then come back here with some more intelligent bull**** for everyone to tear apart for you.
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Actually i dont favor any kind of music i like over the other, i dont just listen to classic rock. but i have listen to shred before and i fall to sleep everytime its boring, im not saying that out of stereotypes. my main point is that you can play the Most complex **** ever if you want and hit every note perfectly but it doesnt matter because what you just played doesnt sound good. Sounding good is the whole point of playing guitar, not showing off. if you cant write a good song then you suck period, shredders cannot write an entertaining song.
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Oi. Ok, buddy, I'm gonna give you a heads up. You will never become better than your average rock blues player with that attitude. Never. I'd say a good guitarist is someone that can play technical and complex things(not always doing so though), and make them sound good. Doesn't sound good?
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That man is oft considered a shredder. **** your stereotypes. You're also probably one of those people saying jazz is just a bunch of blue notes.
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Actually i dont favor any kind of music i like over the other, i dont just listen to classic rock. but i have listen to shred before and i fall to sleep everytime its boring, im not saying that out of stereotypes. my main point is that you can play the Most complex **** ever if you want and hit every note perfectly but it doesnt matter because what you just played doesnt sound good. Sounding good is the whole point of playing guitar, not showing off. if you cant write a good song then you suck period, shredders cannot write an entertaining song.
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Since when was shredding about showing off you stupid fuck? So-called "shredders" play the music they do because they like to play it. They don't play to show off, twit, they play because they have fun doing it. Your classic rock guitarists have fun doing what they do and "shedders" have fun doing what they do (which about 70% of the time isn't playing fast - For ignorant morons like you) so just grow a fucking brain and learn at least something about what you're talking about before you bash an entire genre based on a few things you have listened to.

Next---

One thing I like is death metal. A lot. But guess what, there's some I don't like. Imagine that. Who would have thought that some people don't disregard an entire genre because of one or two artists or songs? Not you, that's for damn sure.

And even still, I have no problem if you don't like shred. But you still shouldn't make blind assumptions based on stereotypes set by uneducated idiots. (AKA: You)

The term "shredding" is now being used in a derogatory sense by people like you (people who are uninterested by shredding.) Why? I don't know. Maybe they don't like the genre so they come in on a conversation about someone they know nothing about and say things like "_____ is a shredder so he sucks, all shred is showing off." Wouldn't it be pretty fucking ironic if the song in question was in fact a slow song? Sure it would, but the person would be a stereotyping moron, so they wouldn't know enough to keep their mouth shut on a topic they know very little about. I'd like to see someone call a song like "Realm of the Senses" by Marty Friedman nothing but fast showing off, especially since it is an extremely slow paced song. (sounds like something one of the aforementioned morons like you would do)

Oh and BTW:

Fuck the term "shredding." And fuck you too. Both are inaccurate.
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#23
I quite liked Randy though his technique wasn't all that and I didn't like his tone. I'm not one for speculating what could've been. He's dead. Live with it.

And that1l)ude, just be quiet kiddo.
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After getting caught up in the moment of that1l)ude's ignorance, I completely forgot about the thread topic.

I do love Randy. Tribute is one of the greatest albums I have ever heard. And Goodbye to Romance is one of the best songs I've ever heard.
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After getting caught up in the moment of that1l)ude's ignorance, I completely forgot about the thread topic.

I do love Randy. Tribute is one of the greatest albums I have ever heard. And Goodbye to Romance is one of the best songs I've ever heard.


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[Although you already know this from my praising on HMS] Revelation(Mother Earth) = my alltime favorite Randy piece. The intro/outro, the piano solo, the whole focking song. I love it all. I put it on to calm down a little after kersploding at that1l)ude's infinite stupidity.
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^ Revelation (Mother Earth) is the song I've been listening to the most on that album lately. Some very cool stuff that goes on there, really neat.
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After getting caught up in the moment of that1l)ude's ignorance, I completely forgot about the thread topic.

I do love Randy. Tribute is one of the greatest albums I have ever heard. And Goodbye to Romance is one of the best songs I've ever heard.


Yes, thank you for getting back to the topic. I see this thread has a lot of arguments b/c some jerks think shredding is unenternaing. Please stay on the point of this thread. And apocalypse 13, I agree. Tribute was awesome. On Guitar World Magazine's latest issue, you could vote for your fave guitar albums, and I chose Tribute. But, it didn't get on the list. Blizzard of Ozz and Diary of a Madman did, though.
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#28
I like alot of Randy's stuff, but the whole OO band just sounds like their musically fighting with each other, each member trying to be the one in front, but Randy stole all the thunder of that band.

And the only thing of Randy's that has really amazed me was the Mr Crowley solo. Other than that is just okay to me.
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#29
hands down randy would be the best guitar player if he was alive rite now no one would touch him. that guy new what he was doing on the guitar
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Dude, just... dude... that1l)ude FUCKING OWNED.

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In the pit there is now a poll discussing this topic. I set it up b/c some people are off topic. I put the poll in the pit b/c I wanted everybodies opinion for all types of music interest. plz check it out.
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#34
Man i didnt know we didnt have to bleep out our ****ing cuss words.**** man.


On topic, I've been a huge Randy fan for my entire (2 year) playing career. Tribute was my first rock/metal album and it inspired me to play. People could go on about technical skill blah blah blah but i dont really care about that he was a great musician and there isn't any questioning that.


back off topic i cant type proper and it still make sense...i tried

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Bad choice.

Edit: To keep on topic, I'll be cliche and say that Mr. Crowley's solo kicks major arse*****s. (Which it does )


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#38
I never got that big into Randy until my friend constantly played songs like Crazy Train and Mr. Crowley. After that i became intrested so i learned a bunch of his guitar work starting with Diary of a Madman it's more then likely my favorite Randy song.
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Bad choice.
why ? it's a great piece.
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I think he had amazing metal songwriting skills, solid technique, and good solos. Nonetheless, I like EVH better.
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