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#41
-Reek of putrefaction: horrible album because of the production, but for the attentive listener there are some clever things to discover.

-Symphonies of sickness: a logical album to follow up the first: better sound, better playing(timing was horrible on the first, and still far from tight on this album) and most importantly, better songs. On this album they prove that they can write some great, brutal riffs!

-Necroticism: Death metal perfection, no more to say, my favourite album ever!

-Heartwork: Genious songwriting, but most of the album sounds too melodic, at times almost mellow.

-Swansong: a sellout album(this is what happens when you sign with a big label). Dull songs with uninspired lyrics.

All in all i consider carcass to be the best death metal band ever, and that's just because of Necroticism.
My favourite songs: Symposium of sickness, Corporal jigsore quandary, Inpropagation, Pedigree Butchery, Exhume to Consume, Reek of Putrefaction, Embryonic necropsy and devourment, Carnal forge, Heartwork, Empathological necroticism, Slash dementia, ... .

By the way, if you want to hear a huge carcass ripoff by arch enemy, listen to the latter's 'bury me an angel' and then to carcass' 'lavaging expecorate of lysergide composition'...
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#42
What do you guy's think would have happened if Mike Ammott stayed in the band? Would they have gone farther or just died off in about the same amount of time. And if he did stay, do you think the band would keep the death metal sound, or go in the same direction that eventually turned out? Hmm...
#43
Quote by vandal_12
What do you guy's think would have happened if Mike Ammott stayed in the band? Would they have gone farther or just died off in about the same amount of time. And if he did stay, do you think the band would keep the death metal sound, or go in the same direction that eventually turned out? Hmm...

They would have died out because after releasing their record as Blackstar Rising, Ken Owen (drummer) had a brain hemmorhage.
PS Does anyone know what Blackstar Rising is like???
#44
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They would have died out because after releasing their record as Blackstar Rising, Ken Owen (drummer) had a brain hemmorhage.
PS Does anyone know what Blackstar Rising is like???


Oh yeah, well then, what if he didn't have that hemmorhage, probably the same outcome anyway's but who give's a ****.
About Blackstar rising my friend said they're alright but i haven't heard anything from them myself so i wouldn't know.
#45
Quote by unfathomable_bo
OMG last time I saw Arch Enemy they covered Heartwork, and you just thought "WHY DID YOU LEAVE CARCASS TO PLAY THE SAME SONGS IN AN INFERIOR BAND!?!?!"

/rant
Lol.

But what was said about Bill and Chris > Mike. I agree, I always learn Steer's part when im learning Carcass Material.
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#46
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Lol.

But what was said about Bill and Chris > Mike. I agree, I always learn Steer's part when im learning Carcass Material.

I was reading some stuff about Bill Steer the other week. Apparrently he's completely dissociated himself from metal, claiming that "metal is only for teenagers".
Went into isolation in Australia or something... i have no idea.
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#47
I'm pretty sure Bill Steer started some kinda old school 70's style rock band called Firebird. Haven't heard any of their stuff, neither has anyone i know.
#48
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By the way, if you want to hear a huge carcass ripoff by arch enemy, listen to the latter's 'bury me an angel' and then to carcass' 'lavaging expecorate of lysergide composition'...


I have to be honest and say that I like Bury Me An Angel much more. The riff is blatantly lifted, but the song is just.. more kickass.

I'm pretty much basically never listening to post-johan arch enemy again.

I ALWAYS learn Steer's solos when I play carcass because Amotts ****ing suck. They're all Kirk-Hammetted up with Wah and an extra side of suck usually... Whereas Steer just melts your face.

I have this video of them from 91 or something, its pretty good. Amott used an RG, lawl.

Steer started classic rock band named Firebird and pretty much just plays classic rock, it wasnt too bad... but he doesn't play any really flashy solos or anything.

I can't believe such a death/grind pioneer (napalm death and then carcass..) refusees to play metal anymore. Thats enough to make almost any mettlehead weep.
#49
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I have to be honest and say that I like Bury Me An Angel much more. The riff is blatantly lifted, but the song is just.. more kickass.

I'm pretty much basically never listening to post-johan arch enemy again.

I ALWAYS learn Steer's solos when I play carcass because Amotts ****ing suck. They're all Kirk-Hammetted up with Wah and an extra side of suck usually... Whereas Steer just melts your face.

I have this video of them from 91 or something, its pretty good. Amott used an RG, lawl.

Steer started classic rock band named Firebird and pretty much just plays classic rock, it wasnt too bad... but he doesn't play any really flashy solos or anything.

I can't believe such a death/grind pioneer (napalm death and then carcass..) refusees to play metal anymore. Thats enough to make almost any mettlehead weep.


No wonder Amott ripped that off-he just left Carcass. Something like Trivium compared to Carcass is like Backstreet Boys compared to Black Sabbath-i just think they are cheesey and weak
#50
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No wonder Amott ripped that off-he just left Carcass. Something like Trivium compared to Carcass is like Backstreet Boys compared to Black Sabbath-i just think they are cheesey and weak



It doesn't matter dude he still lifted the riffs and I never said it was bad. To be fair black earth was five years after necroticism... and he took some of his own riffage for the song 'stigmata' too. I'm pretty sure that arpeggio is somewhere on heartwork, haha.

What the **** are you talking about black sabbath and trivium and ****ing boybands in a carcass thread for? lol
#51
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I was reading some stuff about Bill Steer the other week. Apparrently he's completely dissociated himself from metal, claiming that "metal is only for teenagers".
Went into isolation in Australia or something... i have no idea.


So has Jeff.

The last imput he had on anything metal was 2 years ago when he did live vocals for Maple Cross when they covered Denim and Leather, and 4 years ago when he produced Diamanthian's debut. Since then all he's done is his country stuff, and This is Menace.
#52
And I was hoping there would be a reunion one day
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#54
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So has Jeff.

The last imput he had on anything metal was 2 years ago when he did live vocals for Maple Cross when they covered Denim and Leather, and 4 years ago when he produced Diamanthian's debut. Since then all he's done is his country stuff, and This is Menace.


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Jeff played bass in Brujeria and To separate the flesh form the bones this year, as well as doing his country metal thing

I love Carcass (maybe not "Swansong") and as such am in a Carcass clone band. We only write material that sounds like it could have come from "Symphonies..." era Carcass, maybe with a touch of "Necroticism" and "Heartwork"
#55
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WRON|G

Jeff played bass in Brujeria and To separate the flesh form the bones this year, as well as doing his country metal thing


Brujeria is a joke band, he might aswell play in Gwar, and TSTFFTB was again just a session.

He always makes up the excuse that J Offalmangler is not him haha
#56
I like Symphonies of Sickness, and Necroticism - Descanting the Insalubrious, but also Heartwork and Swansong
#57
Taken from an interview with Jeff from june 2006:

"...is there really no chance that you are ever going to come together again as Carcass?"

"...I like to think that we could do it again tomorrow, you know. But Bill is not really thrashing at his guitar no more. That doesn't mean he couldn't do it, but he's not been doing it for so long now, he would have to retrain some of the stuff. We'd never do it for the money though. Bill has got to believe in what he's doing, so that's probably one of the reasons why Carcass won't reform. He doesn't want to do it. And I am not going to spend the rest of my life trying to convince him to do it."


I geuss that settles it

for the full interview: here
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#58
I was taking to Uncle Jeff at a Brutal Truth gig about a week ago about this, he pretty much said that he'd spoke to Arnott and he was all for it but neither of them wanted to reform the band without Bill because it wouldn't be Carcass.

bleh
#64
^Yeah, I just watched it, and it was a tad sloppy. Still had a good energy to it though.
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#66
Any particular reason that all their solos have names?

When you read the lyrics, every solo has some weird/gory medical term for a label...

Instrumedit: Lol, I like the "solo" rectal intubation with an intolerably hot enema, by Michael Amott.
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#67
Because it kicks ass, lol
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#70
I hate people who write Carcass off for going/creating melodeath. How boring would music be if it was always the same style, same riffs recycled to try and keep a niche market pleased.

Carcass are my favourite band, and I enjoy pretty much everything they've released

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#71
I didn't really like Aborted's vocals on Heartwork. sounded wayy too hardcore. The melody was a little sloppy too (as previously mentioned).
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#73
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lol at 0:36 in the aborted vid.


lol Uber-Sagage on the old dude

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#74
I just watched the Red Dwarf episode guest staring carcass.

"The whacked-out, crazy, hippy drummer's called Dobbin. He joined
the police force in the end. Became a grand wizard in the Freemasons.
The bass is called Gazza. He was a neo-marxist, nihilistic, anarchist.
Eventually joined a large insurance company and got his own parking
space."

"oooooommmmm"
#75
It's sad they broke up. I saw a Jeff and Mike interview from I would assume Heartwork era and the interviewer asked what kind of music they listened to and Jeff started laughing and said 'Not metal!' I guess he just got bored. It's sad, they were amazing. Arch Enemy will never come close to what Carcass was, especially not new Arch Enemy. Early Arch Enemy sounded like Carcass but not as godly, yet it was still great. Ah well. I guess it's better Carcass ended when it did so that they didn't end up as a washed up metal band.
#77
i'm getting kind of shitty at everyone ripping post-johan arch enemy

i can't stand his vocals. even on songs like bury me an angel, when he sings it, it somehow seems wrong.
angela does it pretty well though...in my opinion anyway.

and they still have some awesome riffs and melodies.


anyway, about carcass...mostly.
was anyone else shocked about how someone would want to be welded to a sculpture?
(hr gigers life support 1993, in the video clip for heartwork)
i was actually kind of disgusted that someone would want to weld another person to a sculpture...it's just weird.
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#79
^if you look up heartwork on wikipedia it has details on lifesupport 93, and says that it has the real life sculpture, including someone welded to it.
in the video you can't see that he's welded to it, but he has drips and all that sort of shit going into him to make sure he's ok
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#80
Quote by AzureNight
Carcass fucking rule, up until the really melo-death stuff which is kind of lame.


Nothing by Carcass is lame. All Carcass is excellence. We will make everything Carcass!

Their grind stuff is better indeed, but their Melo-death era was equally inspiring. It really irritates me when people accuse Carcass of selling out or whatever. It must get real fi;cking boring playing the same music on every single album.

Symphonies is my favourite album but Necroticism is clearly their best effort in terms of techicality and musicianship

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