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This is my theory on why Dave Brownsound left Sum 41.

Deryck Whibley said that Dave lost interest in the band after their album 'All Killer No Filler'. Their next album 'Does This Look Infected' was considerably heavier than their previous material. I think that Dave made Sum 41 go a lot heavier so he wouldn't leave the band, because the other members knew they couldn't do without him. Their next album 'Chuck' was even heavier than 'Does This Look Infected' so that shows that Dave wanted them even heavier. After 'Chuck' when they started writing for their next album, Deryck mentioned that it was going to be way different from 'Chuck' so then Dave left because he wanted to be in a metal band. He saw that Sum 41 would never become one.

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#6
Chuck was a crap album anyway, they should have just stuck to what they were good at, Brownsound was there link between metal and punk so yh they did need him.
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He left about 2 months ago and some songs on Chuck were heavier than DTLI


Maybe 2-3. That's about it. But overall, Id say DTLI was heavier than Chuck.
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#8
um. i think you over-thought that one. he left because he didn't like the music they were making. end.
#9
Chuck was heavier..

Sum 41 is actually one of my favorite bands (cue flames ) We'll see how they do without Dave
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#11
He said he left because he thought they became to dark. I think he actually liked the stuff off of AKNF & HHOP.
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He left about 2 months ago


Really?!
They're screwed without him...
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#13
They were getting worse with every album. Dave realized this. Now he's gone.


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#14
Apparantly Deryck wrote most of the riffs on Chuck, so he was the one making them get heavier, not Dave.
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#15
Weeeird, I used to like Sum 41 alot and I thought Dave's metal influence worked well with the overall poppy sound they had.
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#16
His metal infliuence made them sound like a cheap Metallica rip-off. Sum 41 are crap. Which is too bad, because I liked them for a couple years. I wish they would stop stealing riffs and try and write a decent song on their own.
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I am curious to see how much the sound will change though I loved chuck.
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Admitidly, they aren't much without Brownsound, BUT hopefully it might mean a relapse into the style of the older albums, which would be brilliant IMO

What do you mean they aren't much? There was something other than solos in the songs. Ok, he's a good guitarist, but if he wasn't writing most of the music, it shouldn't be much different.
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#20
Yeah Deryck wrote most of the progressions and riffs if I remember rightly from my days of Sum 41.

I'm not quite sure how it'll affect them as a band, I'd be interested to see how they sound on their next album..
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#22
RHCPhysco is right i really liked the first two thought the next was ok and hated chuck...
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#24
well i heard somewhere that he was making a band called the "Brown Brigade" with his cousin, who is probably also brown.
#25
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Apparantly Deryck wrote most of the riffs on Chuck, so he was the one making them get heavier, not Dave.

The bitter end is basicly a rehashed version of battery by 'talica so it shows they were desperate to bring in the 'talica sound.
I didnt think it was good album because it was too heavy for the pop punkers and too poppy for the metallers.
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#26
Thats right, the Brown Brigade consist of Dave and Vaughn who I assume is his cousin and I heard they just found a singer aswell
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The bitter end is basicly a rehashed version of battery by 'talica so it shows they were desperate to bring in the 'talica sound.
I didnt think it was good album because it was too heavy for the pop punkers and too poppy for the metallers.

I think it was a good album, it bridged a gap between pop punk and metal, two so different genres, and it really worked well.
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#28
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Maybe 2-3. That's about it. But overall, Id say DTLI was heavier than Chuck.


Chuck was like, 100 percent more faux-metal than DTLI.

Songs like We're All To Blame and The Bitter End document that well.
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Apparantly Deryck wrote most of the riffs on Chuck, so he was the one making them get heavier, not Dave.

That's exactly right. I reckon they will be okay without him, but it's a shame he left. Oh well, **** happens.
#31
Because he realized he's part of a shitty band and has exiled himself in shame? (this may be wishful thinking on my part).
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His metal infliuence made them sound like a cheap Metallica rip-off. Sum 41 are crap. Which is too bad, because I liked them for a couple years. I wish they would stop stealing riffs and try and write a decent song on their own.


yeah good thing he left. i think all killer no filler was a great album, and hopefully after dave's gone sum 41's gonna get back to their same old style. many riffs and solos of the Chuck album sound similar to that of metallica....which sucks...
#34
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yeah good thing he left. i think all killer no filler was a great album, and hopefully after dave's gone sum 41's gonna get back to their same old style. many riffs and solos of the Chuck album sound similar to that of metallica....which sucks...


I lol'd.

Sum 41 used to be my favourite band, now I've progressed my tastes a lot, I still listen to DTLI? a fair amount still, but the rest has worn off. I really want to hear anything Dave does in the future, and it will be interesting to hear Sum 41's next output, they will probably get more 'emo', there were definite hints of it in Chuck (especially Pieces, which was just rubbish)
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#36
as a Sum 41 song it's ****ing terrible when you compare it to their earlier works but on its own I suppose it's okay.
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#37
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Chuck was like, 100 percent more faux-metal than DTLI.

Songs like We're All To Blame and The Bitter End document that well.


Haha. Faux-Metal. I just like the way it sounds .

Anyways, ehh, Ill have another listen to both. But with the exceptions of those 2, there aren't many more. Maybe, Im just saying that DTLI had a more heavier all-around feel.


And that album cover...so hardcore2daxtreme

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they will probably get more 'emo', there were definite hints of it in Chuck (especially Pieces, which was just rubbish)


They will NEVER be emo. They will just progress gradually down the Pop-Punk road if they choose not to remain heavy. Maybe even getting out of Pop-Punk and moving in to Pop-Rock...but that's a maybe.
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#38
holy crap......

dave's decision to leave the band was to further his career in a band with a more classic metal style (such as metallica). i found that out on wikipedia(dunno why i was on there)

How can you say chuck is crap?? i listen to a fair bit of metallica and i can say for sure that sum 41 are not a cheap rip-off of them. the only song that sounds alot like metallica is bitter end. but the rest of the albulm is a different metal style, more similar to that of avenged sevenfold.

anyway, all of there albums have been good and i can't wait untill the new one is released, whether it be punk or metal.
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#40
I use to be really into them a few years back, went to see them about 3 times live, I've still not heard chuck. Oh wells, so long as they are still going im always interested to hear what they have next. Lol, I always like Half Hour Of Power best.
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