#1
I'm having an extremely difficult time doing anything by Mudvayne, I've tried doing "Dig" "Death Blooms" "Everything and Nothing" and "Not Falling" and so far I can't do any of it

Just to give you an idea where I'm at skill wise I can do Dani California proficiently and Porno Creep by Fieldy so I don't completely suck

I was just wandering if anyone out there plays Ryan's stuff regularly and give any tips or tricks to playing his riff

thanks
#2
I'm a big Ryknow fan, and he rates as one of my main influences. Try and get out of the standard 4/4 time sig, a lot of Mudvayne stuff goes into odd time signitures. Secondly, learn how to slap well. It helps, especially with Dig. Work on your left hand technique, because he uses it to mute a lot of notes when he slaps, also look at Dig (verse). Bass chords (Not Falling), good wide vibrato (try rotating your finger around it's tip in a slow, emphasised motion).

Oh yeah, and speed with fingers, and you need good left/right hand co-ordination.

For the distinctive percussive taps in the chorus for Happy?, see at what fret your're holding down. Then, tap the fret that's an octave higher- 12 frets up. For example, fret the 3rd fret, tap the 15th. Start this slowly, until you build up decent muscle memory.

And the most important thing to remember- you may not be able to play it all or perfect at first. Persevere, and you shall be rewarded. It took me a while to get down Not Falling, but I'm happy I kept at it.

Good starter Mudvayne song.... I'd first start off with Fall into Sleep (my powertab for that is on this site) World So Cold and Not Falling, and then move on to stuff like Pharmaecopia and Internal Primates (Forever)...
#3
watch some of mudvaynes live performances...see how he does it...

for most chords (not falling, Pharmaecopia, Cradle) use your index or ringer finger as if it were a pick, using your fingernail to strike the strings....

for Death Blooms use 3 fingers at the arpegiated powerchord part (i think thats what you call it)...

this part

E|----------7------7-------5-----5---3----
B|-------7----7---------5----5--------------
F#|---5---------5----3---------3---1------
B|---------------------------------------------
      I  M  R M I  R I  M  R M I R I R

I=index
m=middle
r=ring

its much easier that way once you get the hang of it...and like delirium said, practice all of this slowly and build speed, its pointless if you play it as fast as Ryan but you make a bunch of mistakes...

BTW I've got a bunch of Mudvayne video clips on my computer, I downloaded them from a p2p network a while back, I can host them on a website if you want and from there you can download em for free...
"All matter is merely energy condensed into a slow vibration and we're all one consciousness experiencing ourselves subjectively, theres no such thing as death, life is just a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves."
Last edited by XeNoCiDe730 at Aug 17, 2006,
#4
Thanks for the tips much appreciated

Yeah, I've watched the Dig video a few times and I can see he picks during the 2-3-2
3-2-0-3-2-0-2-3-2 (think that's how it went, going from memory) with his index, middle, and ring, that's hard to get used to though, but it seems that's how he gets it that fast

I've started attempting everything and nothing, but I'm getting hung up at the higher notes just before the chorus, it's pretty tough.

Thanks for recommending some good starter songs, I'm gonna print out Fall into Sleep and World so Cold right now.

I've tried doing some of Not Falling, but again, it's tough to keep up. I guess I just got discouraged fast because I could do Dani California pretty accurately in about half an hour (took a few days to get it down pat) but any Mudvayne song I've tried has just totally kicked my arse


edit: Which Fall into Sleep tab should I go for, Version 1, 2, or 3, they all look pretty different.
Last edited by SlapFieldy at Aug 17, 2006,
#6
Quote by XeNoCiDe730
watch some of mudvaynes live performances...see how he does it...

for most chords (not falling, Pharmaecopia, Cradle) use your index or ringer finger as if it were a pick, using your fingernail to strike the strings....

for Death Blooms use 3 fingers at the arpegiated powerchord part (i think thats what you call it)...

this part

E|----------7------7-------5-----5---3----
B|-------7----7---------5----5--------------
F#|---5---------5----3---------3---1------
B|---------------------------------------------
I M R M I R I M R M I R I R

I=index
m=middle
r=ring

its much easier that way once you get the hang of it...and like delirium said, practice all of this slowly and build speed, its pointless if you play it as fast as Ryan but you make a bunch of mistakes...

BTW I've got a bunch of Mudvayne video clips on my computer, I downloaded them from a p2p network a while back, I can host them on a website if you want and from there you can download em for free...


Just feel the need to tell you that an arpeggio is root-3rd-5th-octave. The third is what makes it the arpeggio. Without it, it is just a seperated powerchord
#7
Quote by elemenohpee
Just feel the need to tell you that an arpeggio is root-3rd-5th-octave. The third is what makes it the arpeggio. Without it, it is just a seperated powerchord


It doesn't have to be 1-3-5-8. It's just the notes of any chord, played separately. Of course, power chords aren't real chords, so I guess technically it's not an arpeggio, but it has the same form as an arpeggio.
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#8
yea, I know an arpeggio is the root-third-fifth-octave when used in the context of the major scale/a major chord...

i thought arpegiated powerchord meant playing the notes of a chord (in this case a powerchord) one by one...guess I was wrong though..
"All matter is merely energy condensed into a slow vibration and we're all one consciousness experiencing ourselves subjectively, theres no such thing as death, life is just a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves."
#9
Quote by XeNoCiDe730
yea, I know an arpeggio is the root-third-fifth-octave when used in the context of the major scale/a major chord...

i thought arpegiated powerchord meant playing the notes of a chord (in this case a powerchord) one by one...guess I was wrong though..


It might be, I've just never heard the term used in that context. I just thought you were refering to the actual notes, not a picking pattern.